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Auto-wins

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,782 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 At our last camp wars meeting (nearly a month ago) it was agreed to add auto-wins, so I'll implement that today. Auto-win will kick in if the CR ratio is 5-to-1 or greater in favor of one side. The rule will apply 48 hours before the combat*, after the defender's late deployment option has elapsed. * clarification on late deployment: it has to be set at least 48 hours before the combat, and only during week 2 of the cycle. I.e. late deployment is only possible during week 2 (battle week) and not during week 1 (deployment week). ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Jul 24, 2020, 6:41 am Last edited Jul 24, 2020, 8:09 am by *sam*

Joel Autobaun Joels Bastards Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Sinbinned Posts: 4,598 Joined: Nov 10, 2008 this is just CR not like if you wait till last 4 hours to set a squad? ......................... vet northernsummer deathrce1 raceL1 deathrceL1 ww ped1 sssc paintball semiprocombat ped2 e2g gwextrav gwped combat1 paintladder elmsautumn gateautumn wv race1 combatL1 pvp1 pvp5 pvp4 zom pvp3 circuit1 pvp2 circuit2 circuit3 ss2fl67 slay2013 storm2013 geek triangle198,99,31 Posted Jul 27, 2020, 1:09 am

darthspanky McSPANKYS LOLLIPOP GANSTAS Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Subscribers Posts: 4,027 Joined: Jul 29, 2007 i can see this being abused, whose to say they can even get enouph members to join the higher cr squad or even show up, just throw out big numbers of cr, dont worry about having the cars or gangers to fully use that cr lets just auto win, and who are these players in these meetings making these desisions, and what if the battle is on someones camp itself, guess auto looting is next. so glad im out of this kinda crap. ......................... vet paintball wv1,0,2 Posted Jul 27, 2020, 3:57 am Last edited Jul 27, 2020, 4:20 am by darthspanky

Joel Autobaun Joels Bastards Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Sinbinned Posts: 4,598 Joined: Nov 10, 2008 darthspanky said: i can see this being abused, whose to say they can even get enouph members to join the higher cr squad or even show up, just throw out big numbers of cr, dont worry about having the cars or gangers to fully use that cr lets just auto win, and who are these players in these meetings making these desisions, and what if the battle is on someones camp itself, guess auto looting is next. so glad im out of this kinda crap. Gotta agree with camp - we did agree that would be exempt I think? ......................... vet northernsummer deathrce1 raceL1 deathrceL1 ww ped1 sssc paintball semiprocombat ped2 e2g gwextrav gwped combat1 paintladder elmsautumn gateautumn wv race1 combatL1 pvp1 pvp5 pvp4 zom pvp3 circuit1 pvp2 circuit2 circuit3 ss2fl67 slay2013 storm2013 geek triangle198,99,31 Posted Jul 27, 2020, 5:57 am

rockinrams CurseOfTheBeasts Sunday Driver Mutants Faction Group: Subscribers Posts: 79 Joined: Dec 25, 2014 I can see lorry gunboats with one ganger for auto win abusing ......................... vet wv deathrceL1 combat1 race1 pvp5 pvp3 ww raceL1 pvp41,1,1 Posted Jul 27, 2020, 7:49 am

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,908 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 Joel Autobaun said: darthspanky said: i can see this being abused, whose to say they can even get enouph members to join the higher cr squad or even show up, just throw out big numbers of cr, dont worry about having the cars or gangers to fully use that cr lets just auto win, and who are these players in these meetings making these desisions, and what if the battle is on someones camp itself, guess auto looting is next. so glad im out of this kinda crap. Gotta agree with camp - we did agree that would be exempt I think? that was certainly my understanding. ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted Jul 27, 2020, 8:23 am

darthspanky McSPANKYS LOLLIPOP GANSTAS Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Subscribers Posts: 4,027 Joined: Jul 29, 2007 players can still concede, and get penalized if they dont vs overwhelming odds anyway, just not sure why we need this. what if someone deploted 5000cr and could only use 750 and nobody else showed up to put cars in that 5000 cr squad, they would still get the auto win, when they could have been beaten. ......................... vet paintball wv1,0,2 Posted Jul 27, 2020, 8:41 am Last edited Jul 27, 2020, 8:47 am by darthspanky

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,908 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 darthspanky said: players can still concede, and get penalized if they dont vs overwhelming odds anyway, just not sure why we need this. what if someone deploted 5000cr and could only use 750 and nobody else showed up to put cars in that 5000 cr squad, they would still get the auto win, when they could have been beaten. with the number of events a long border can create it is needed to stop people spamming enemy camps with low CR events at anti social hours that the defender is forces to show up at. It is already the case that the number of 'real' events will kill off participation because i cant commit the time to this that is needed and i don't think anyone else with any kind of external life can either. I think it is needed... but there needs to be consideration of the possible exploits and anomalies it may throw up. ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted Jul 27, 2020, 8:58 am

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,782 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 Joel Autobaun said: darthspanky said: i can see this being abused, whose to say they can even get enouph members to join the higher cr squad or even show up, just throw out big numbers of cr, dont worry about having the cars or gangers to fully use that cr lets just auto win, and who are these players in these meetings making these desisions, and what if the battle is on someones camp itself, guess auto looting is next. so glad im out of this kinda crap. Gotta agree with camp - we did agree that would be exempt I think? Yes, camp home tiles are exempt. ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Jul 27, 2020, 9:26 am

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,782 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 Joel Autobaun said: this is just CR not like if you wait till last 4 hours to set a squad? Correct. Its nothing to do with the squads. ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Jul 27, 2020, 9:31 am

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,782 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 rockinrams said: I can see lorry gunboats with one ganger for auto win abusing You clearly don't understand the system,  then. ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Jul 27, 2020, 9:35 am

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,782 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 darthspanky said: i can see this being abused, whose to say they can even get enouph members to join the higher cr squad or even show up, just throw out big numbers of cr, dont worry about having the cars or gangers to fully use that cr lets just auto win, and who are these players in these meetings making these desisions, and what if the battle is on someones camp itself, guess auto looting is next. so glad im out of this kinda crap. It's about logistics: not forcing people to play numerous pointless combats. AFAIK no battle has yet been won by the smaller side with even 2:1, let alone 5:1 odds.  Game design is often about balancing complex competing factors,  and there isn't always a perfect solution.  It's about prioritising what's most important. ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Jul 27, 2020, 9:38 am Last edited Jul 27, 2020, 10:16 am by *sam*

darthspanky McSPANKYS LOLLIPOP GANSTAS Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Subscribers Posts: 4,027 Joined: Jul 29, 2007 ok i just wanted to make a point, sometimes some players look for loopholes, hope it doesnt go like that tho. ......................... vet paintball wv1,0,2 Posted Jul 27, 2020, 11:53 am

rockinrams CurseOfTheBeasts Sunday Driver Mutants Faction Group: Subscribers Posts: 79 Joined: Dec 25, 2014 darthspanky said: ok i just wanted to make a point, sometimes some players look for loopholes, hope it doesnt go like that tho. even though im not in the camp wars and dont have to deal with this stuff, when it comes to the extra money people can get from factories giving random damaged weapons every so often and hauling it to a northern triangle town, where said weapon (say its a HFT) is hard to get and make a good amount of money that can then go to normal town events like rallies (or the more obvious, to there camp/s) ......................... vet wv deathrceL1 combat1 race1 pvp5 pvp3 ww raceL1 pvp41,1,1 Posted Jul 27, 2020, 5:30 pm

*Longo* Longos Merry Men Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 6,670 Joined: Dec 15, 2007 rockinrams said: darthspanky said: ok i just wanted to make a point, sometimes some players look for loopholes, hope it doesnt go like that tho. even though im not in the camp wars and dont have to deal with this stuff, when it comes to the extra money people can get from factories giving random damaged weapons every so often and hauling it to a northern triangle town, where said weapon (say its a HFT) is hard to get and make a good amount of money that can then go to normal town events like rallies (or the more obvious, to there camp/s) Risk vs Reward. And FWIW, many of the perks are pretty rare. I am 0 for 5 in trying to recruit with perks in several different camps, and only know of one success in all of Evan so far (Grimm with courage) ......................... vet combatL1 ped1 paintladder semiprocombat ped2 wv pvp4 pvp1 gwped paintball pvp3 pvp5 slay2013 marshal circuit2 combat1 e2g raceL1 gwextrav gateautumn pvp2 triangle1 Posted Jul 27, 2020, 6:22 pm

Joel Autobaun Joels Bastards Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Sinbinned Posts: 4,598 Joined: Nov 10, 2008 Yup so far tile perks are worthless imo. The biggest thing is probably not having to fight stupid npc battles. Even if i wasnt playing the hex game... id want to be open for that. Camp wars *can sometimes* be fun though. Good enemies are hard to find. It is ironic...those of us who are *fighting* camp wars dont have time to cash in on the spoils as much as those who *play* but dont fight. Dont care all that much but i think if sam still works on the game after this camp wars priority #1 is fixing dw commodities system. ......................... vet northernsummer deathrce1 raceL1 deathrceL1 ww ped1 sssc paintball semiprocombat ped2 e2g gwextrav gwped combat1 paintladder elmsautumn gateautumn wv race1 combatL1 pvp1 pvp5 pvp4 zom pvp3 circuit1 pvp2 circuit2 circuit3 ss2fl67 slay2013 storm2013 geek triangle198,99,31 Posted Jul 28, 2020, 4:14 pm Last edited Jul 28, 2020, 4:19 pm by Joel Autobaun

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,908 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 Joel Autobaun said: It is ironic...those of us who are *fighting* camp wars dont have time to cash in on the spoils as much as those who *play* but dont fight.  ain't that the truth. just the logistics and management of teams for events takes up all my playing time. I have become an overworked middle manager and the only time we actually won anything I got a 3% machine gun.  ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted Jul 28, 2020, 7:20 pm Last edited Jul 28, 2020, 7:21 pm by *goat starer*

darthspanky McSPANKYS LOLLIPOP GANSTAS Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Subscribers Posts: 4,027 Joined: Jul 29, 2007 i managed to loot 3 cp and before camp close i made 25k stone whoo hoo, then the beam out rules changed after loosing my leader lmao. ......................... vet paintball wv1,0,2 Posted Jul 28, 2020, 7:33 pm Last edited Jul 28, 2020, 7:39 pm by darthspanky

*Longo* Longos Merry Men Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 6,670 Joined: Dec 15, 2007 darthspanky said: i managed to loot 3 cp and before camp close i made 25k stone whoo hoo, then the beam out rules changed after loosing my leader lmao. Well, on the bright side, we can now refer to this function as the "Kirk" rule. Its almost Star Trekish ......................... vet combatL1 ped1 paintladder semiprocombat ped2 wv pvp4 pvp1 gwped paintball pvp3 pvp5 slay2013 marshal circuit2 combat1 e2g raceL1 gwextrav gateautumn pvp2 triangle1 Posted Jul 28, 2020, 7:43 pm

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,908 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 oh... i have infinite fuel that nets me 4k a lorry load if i ship it to texan from camp. its not going to let me retire to a nice seaside camp somewhere down near firefly any time soon. ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted Jul 28, 2020, 7:44 pm

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