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Into the Ruins?, Are we going into the ruins?

*StCrispin* Beasts of the Lair Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,657 Joined: Feb 13, 2012 Bill Butcher Cutting said: Groovelle said: Quote: The word "Mates" in this country is offensive by the way. It means "sexual partner" Crispin, come on. This is a global society  now, everyone knows what mates means. And I'm from the citiest urban area in America Ditto. I'm in Houston Texas, in the oil business, speak to counterparts around the globe daily and have never heard of 'mate' used in a derogatory way. Your claim is very thin at best. The point is Goat is very aware of which Anglicism can be interpreted as harmless to one and yet still imply some offensive connotation in a veiled manner.  Like when Bush senior flashed the peace sign in Australia way back when and it was equivalent of calling them Pussys because it wasn't facing the right direction but Americans were like "Huh?  WTF?" It seems he is so inflamed that he sits there imagining me raging over his snide remarks.  When in fact I could care less as they are totally off topic and, as is his calling card, add nothing to the topic except "Nay, I Say! Nay!" Yes that was supposed to be Monty Python.  I think of the "Knights that Say Nay" skit every time I read Goats posts. ......................... vet wv gwped paintladder paintball marshal raceL10,1,0 Posted Dec 27, 2014, 8:39 am Last edited Dec 27, 2014, 9:07 am by *StCrispin*

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,907 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 *StCrispin* said: Bill Butcher Cutting said: Groovelle said: Quote: The word "Mates" in this country is offensive by the way. It means "sexual partner" Crispin, come on. This is a global society  now, everyone knows what mates means. And I'm from the citiest urban area in America Ditto. I'm in Houston Texas, in the oil business, speak to counterparts around the globe daily and have never heard of 'mate' used in a derogatory way. Your claim is very thin at best. The point is Goat is very aware of which Anglicism can be interpreted as harmless to one and yet still imply some offensive connotation in a veiled manner.  Like when Bush senior flashed the peace sign in Australia way back when and it was equivalent of calling them Pussys because it wasn't facing the right direction but Americans were like "Huh?  WTF?" It seems he is so inflamed that he sits there imagining me raging over his snide remarks.  When in fact I could care less as they are totally off topic and, as is his calling card, add nothing to the topic except "Nay, I Say! Nay!" Yes that was supposed to be Monty Python.  I think of the "Knights that Say Nay" skit every time I read Goats posts. Your point is that you are an idiot.... A quick google search finds people in Illinois using the word mate... You are living in a fabulous world of imaginary slurs and battles. Have you ever looked up your brothers screen name in the urban dictionary? That should get you going... Or try looking up "crispin" ... My god... How you can abuse yourself with that name is beyond me (although some of it was strangely accurate)  And it's "the Knights Who Say Ni" you plank... If it was the Knights who say nay that would be a real word and the joke you abjectly missed would not work at all. ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted Dec 27, 2014, 9:49 am Last edited Dec 27, 2014, 9:52 am by goat starer

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,513 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 oh dear. Merry f....... christmas everyone! ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,1 Posted Dec 27, 2014, 12:35 pm

Grimm Sykes Sand xbzyas Darkwind Guru Merchants Faction Group: Banned Posts: 1,372 Joined: Mar 14, 2010 *StCrispin* said: The word "Mates" in this country is offensive by the way.  It means "sexual partner".  I realize it's an Anglicism meaning "non-gender biased close relationship" where you are, but I find it insulting. So you are saying when I get IMs on Steam from concerned individuals thinking about joining the game or subbing that I should tell them "shut up or bugger off"?  I'm not sure that's wise. Plus Bugger itself is also is offensive.  I'm not going to tell people to either shut up or be a homosexual.  That would be rude. I don't care if Sam works anymore on DW.  But saying the game isn't worth working on, without prefacing it with WHY or segueing into the fact that it really would need a rewrite to be competitive in any way today, just seems like bad business sense.  Plus I have people asking me about it on Steam and I just keep telling them to try it out and not let a little thing like the possibility of no updates get them down. I'm not whining, i just find it disturbing that Sam claims the game is complete and has for years, while it has glaring holes. In america we have a saying, a monkey in a suit, is just a monkey in a suit. Meaning that no matter how you dress something up, it still is what it is, and darkwind is... bugged and incomplete. I had always assumed a game developer would want to find bugs and fix them, not to pretend they don't exist, ignore them, and let his moderators insult anyone who points at the bugs. ......................... vet wv pvp5 pvp4 Posted Dec 27, 2014, 1:46 pm

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,907 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 *Bastille* said: oh dear. Merry f....... christmas everyone! Happy Christmas bas! ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted Dec 27, 2014, 2:24 pm

Grimm Sykes Sand xbzyas Darkwind Guru Merchants Faction Group: Banned Posts: 1,372 Joined: Mar 14, 2010 *Bastille* said: oh dear. Merry f....... christmas everyone! Merry facetious christmas? ......................... vet wv pvp5 pvp4 Posted Dec 27, 2014, 4:16 pm

Bill Butcher Cutting The Butchers of Boozetown Racer Badlands Truckstop Faction Group: Members Posts: 202 Joined: Jun 15, 2014 Guys, Look at it from Sam's point of view. He spent many many hours trying to fix issues and add unappreciated content before and after the Steam launch and didn't see the huge crowds sticking around as he hoped and is subsequently burned the hell out. Give him a few months to chill and he should be back to where he was before Steam was green-lit. ......................... vet wv Posted Dec 27, 2014, 6:04 pm

*Bigspenner* Brassicas Darkwind Guru Civs Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 546 Joined: Sep 17, 2008 Ha Ha Ha I believe StCronkplonk is a synonym for halfwit. lol *StCrispin* said: The word "Mates" in this country is offensive by the way.  It means "sexual partner".  I realize it's an Anglicism meaning "non-gender biased close relationship" where you are, but I find it insulting. So you are saying when I get IMs on Steam from concerned individuals thinking about joining the game or subbing that I should tell them "shut up or bugger off"?  I'm not sure that's wise. Plus Bugger itself is also is offensive.  I'm not going to tell people to either shut up or be a homosexual.  That would be rude. I don't care if Sam works anymore on DW.  But saying the game isn't worth working on, without prefacing it with WHY or segueing into the fact that it really would need a rewrite to be competitive in any way today, just seems like bad business sense.  Plus I have people asking me about it on Steam and I just keep telling them to try it out and not let a little thing like the possibility of no updates get them down. ......................... vet wv combatL1 deathrceL1 paintladder slay2013 pvp4 gwextrav pvp3 marshal pvp2 pvp1 pvp5 paintball e2g Posted Dec 27, 2014, 9:00 pm

*StCrispin* Beasts of the Lair Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,657 Joined: Feb 13, 2012 Crispin is German. It means curly hair. It could also refer to St. Crispin. The (4th century?) shoemaker who upset the emperor or king or whatever the ruler called himself, and was sunk in a river with a mill stone. He failed to sink so they fished him out and put on a 2nd mill stone. He failed to sink still, so the shot him full of arrows. He then exited the river downstream. Here the story takes 2 forms. One says he was yet again recaptured and to ensure he died, they cut his head off. The other says he and his brother fled to England. Warriors of the Middle Ages would pray to St Crispin before battle to give them "skin as tough as the leather of shoes" and to make them impervious to arrows. Besides, I'm using a psychotherapy technique on Goat to see if he really read Ronson's book on Psycopathy and the Hare Checklist as he indirectly claims ("I've read all his books"). I tire of it though so I'll consider my theory on the subject fully explored. Plus it derails this thread. Which isn't nice. ......................... vet wv gwped paintladder paintball marshal raceL10,1,0 Posted Dec 27, 2014, 11:19 pm Last edited Dec 28, 2014, 1:05 am by *StCrispin*

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,907 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 *StCrispin* said: Crispin is German.  It means curly hair. It could also refer to St. Crispin.  The (4th century?) shoemaker who upset the emperor or king or whatever the ruler called himself, and was sunk in a river with a mill stone.  He failed to sink so they fished him out and put on a 2nd mill stone.  He failed to sink still, so the shot him full of arrows.  He then exited the river downstream.  Here the story takes 2 forms.  One says he was yet again recaptured and to ensure he died, they cut his head off.  The other says he and his brother fled to England.  Warriors of the Middle Ages would pray to St Crispin before battle to give them "skin as tough as the leather of shoes" and to make them impervious to arrows. Has anyone noticed that I'm using a psychotherapy technique on Goat to see if he really read Ronson's book on Psycopathy and the Hare Checklist as he indirectly claims ("I've read all his books").  I tire of it though so I'll consider my theory on the subject fully explored. Plus it derails this thread.  Which isn't nice. i dont think you have read his book or hares test but you are demonstrating quite a few of the traits.. that last line in itself would be setting the hare meter wiggling one of the few psychopath elements the Bond films get right is the propensity to try to explain how they are being clever.... rather than just being clever... which is self evident. They worry that people might be missing their 'brilliance'. Familiar StGoldfinger. ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted Dec 27, 2014, 11:49 pm Last edited Dec 27, 2014, 11:53 pm by goat starer

Grimm Sykes Sand xbzyas Darkwind Guru Merchants Faction Group: Banned Posts: 1,372 Joined: Mar 14, 2010 I can't tell if the two of you are arguing, or just stroking each others egos... or both at the same time ......................... vet wv pvp5 pvp4 Posted Dec 28, 2014, 12:41 am

Groovelle Criminal Underworld Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Subscribers Posts: 758 Joined: Jul 15, 2009 If Sam does do a spinoff of Dark-wind I hope he makes the world scavvy. If'n I had more time and skill I'd be all over scav. ......................... vet wv0,2,0 Posted Dec 28, 2014, 1:48 am

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,907 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 Groovelle said: If Sam does do a spinoff  of Dark-wind I hope he makes the world scavvy. If'n I had more time and skill I'd be all over scav. yeah... cant see it happening but it would be Groovy ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted Dec 28, 2014, 11:30 am

Groovelle Criminal Underworld Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Subscribers Posts: 758 Joined: Jul 15, 2009 I just always thought, if I have a 300 skill mech, why can't he fix his own car, why does everyone in town rely on the overpriced Jake's. Just imagining a whole city with one and only one shop fixing everything seemed wrong to me. Thus, each gang functioning as a mini-camp. ......................... vet wv0,2,0 Posted Dec 28, 2014, 8:58 pm

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,907 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 Groovelle said: I just always thought, if I have a 300 skill mech, why can't he fix his own car, why does everyone in town rely on the overpriced Jake's. Just imagining a whole city with one and only one shop fixing everything seemed wrong to me. Thus, each gang functioning as a mini-camp. yeah... a realy dynamic parts economy and vehicles much more dependent on the quality of looted parts would have been cool ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted Dec 28, 2014, 9:29 pm

*StCrispin* Beasts of the Lair Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,657 Joined: Feb 13, 2012 Groovelle said: I just always thought, if I have a 300 skill mech, why can't he fix his own car, why does everyone in town rely on the overpriced Jake's. Just imagining a whole city with one and only one shop fixing everything seemed wrong to me. Thus, each gang functioning as a mini-camp. I suggested this 2 years ago.  Others suggested this since then.  Certain players were against it and said if we wanted to have that type of gameplay to come play Scav instead, otherwise shut up. ......................... vet wv gwped paintladder paintball marshal raceL10,1,0 Posted Dec 29, 2014, 2:02 am Last edited Dec 29, 2014, 2:04 am by *StCrispin*

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,907 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 *StCrispin* said: Groovelle said: I just always thought, if I have a 300 skill mech, why can't he fix his own car, why does everyone in town rely on the overpriced Jake's. Just imagining a whole city with one and only one shop fixing everything seemed wrong to me. Thus, each gang functioning as a mini-camp. I suggested this 2 years ago.  Others suggested this since then.  Certain players were against it and said if we wanted to have that type of gameplay to come play Scav instead, otherwise shut up. Explaining your greatness again there. ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted Dec 29, 2014, 2:22 am

*StCrispin* Beasts of the Lair Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,657 Joined: Feb 13, 2012 goat starer said: Groovelle said: I just always thought, if I have a 300 skill mech, why can't he fix his own car, why does everyone in town rely on the overpriced Jake's. Just imagining a whole city with one and only one shop fixing everything seemed wrong to me. Thus, each gang functioning as a mini-camp. yeah... a realy dynamic parts economy and vehicles much more dependent on the quality of looted parts would have been cool This I also suggested around the time of steam release.  Sam shot this one down himself.  Not sure why.  Probably difficulty of keeping track of it all in the database or some recoding of the way it was stored.  Probably made more work than it was worth. ......................... vet wv gwped paintladder paintball marshal raceL10,1,0 Posted Dec 29, 2014, 2:44 am

*StCrispin* Beasts of the Lair Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,657 Joined: Feb 13, 2012 I think both ideas would be pretty sweet minor changes. Right along with the AI re-using cars that they took from us and our ability to try to take them back or track down their pirate camp by hunting and tort... I mean "interrogating" them in an "Enhanced" way. Then raiding it. ......................... vet wv gwped paintladder paintball marshal raceL10,1,0 Posted Dec 29, 2014, 2:57 am

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,907 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 *StCrispin* said: goat starer said: Groovelle said: I just always thought, if I have a 300 skill mech, why can't he fix his own car, why does everyone in town rely on the overpriced Jake's. Just imagining a whole city with one and only one shop fixing everything seemed wrong to me. Thus, each gang functioning as a mini-camp. yeah... a realy dynamic parts economy and vehicles much more dependent on the quality of looted parts would have been cool This I also suggested around the time of steam release.  Sam shot this one down himself.  Not sure why.  Probably difficulty of keeping track of it all in the database or some recoding of the way it was stored.  Probably made more work than it was worth. Your perpiscuity and insight are boundless... If somewhat derivative and late in the day ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted Dec 29, 2014, 3:04 am

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