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Into the Ruins?, Are we going into the ruins?

Tallus Fatalis Foedi Racer Renegade Group: Members Posts: 175 Joined: Aug 30, 2014 The discussion raises an interesting question: what would be the challenges and opportunities involved with running an open-source mmo? Not that I necessarily envision that happening with the bunch of ip that is dark wind, but it's a really interesting question that arises when you have a game with this kind of fanbase. ......................... vet wv ped2 Posted Dec 14, 2014, 2:11 pm

Grimm Sykes Sand xbzyas Darkwind Guru Merchants Faction Group: Banned Posts: 1,372 Joined: Mar 14, 2010 I really don't see SJC wanting to get involved with a game based on a engine that was obsolete over a decade ago. The game can't just replace the engine without a rewrite, and if that happened, it's not dark-wind anymore, so no partnership would be needed. As far as buying the rights to this game from sam, I looked into this years ago and had some programers willing to look at options. The decision was that the effort to update the engine, or to fix the bugs, either one alone, would be more work then starting from scratch. In short if we want a turn based game of car wars in a more involved open world, the only solution is to either do it ourselves or pay someone to do it. I think sam's made it clear he doesn't want to be that man, doesn't want to partner with anyone, and doesn't have the time. I'm not putting down Sam in any way. I'm just saying that if this is what we want, we are barking up the wrong tree. Maybe we can make a kickstarter project to locate a programming team AND fund them. ......................... vet wv pvp5 pvp4 Posted Dec 14, 2014, 5:14 pm

Krakhedd FAQ Crew Autodueller Morgan Faction Group: Subscribers Posts: 351 Joined: Aug 19, 2012 goat starer said: And the idea that StCrackpot might host it made laugh so hard some wee came out. Been a rough night. Thanks for the amusement. A prime example of a Darkwind-limiting "factor" right here, kids ......................... vet wv raceL1 pvp3 paintball9,2,9 Posted Dec 14, 2014, 5:56 pm

Krakhedd FAQ Crew Autodueller Morgan Faction Group: Subscribers Posts: 351 Joined: Aug 19, 2012 goat starer said: America is easy. We just colour it red like all the rest of the empire. Yeah cuz this isn't offensive, either ......................... vet wv raceL1 pvp3 paintball9,2,9 Posted Dec 14, 2014, 5:58 pm

Grimm Sykes Sand xbzyas Darkwind Guru Merchants Faction Group: Banned Posts: 1,372 Joined: Mar 14, 2010 I dunno about that, colorado sure looked green to me ......................... vet wv pvp5 pvp4 Posted Dec 14, 2014, 6:15 pm

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,907 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 Krakhedd said: goat starer said: America is easy. We just colour it red like all the rest of the empire. Yeah cuz this isn't offensive, either How's that offensive? I think its a fairly well established fact that America is a rebellious British colony. The fact that we allow the current state of affairs to persist speaks only of British manners. Just one more red area on a global map of the empire on which the sun never sets. ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted Dec 14, 2014, 7:42 pm

Bill Butcher Cutting The Butchers of Boozetown Racer Badlands Truckstop Faction Group: Members Posts: 202 Joined: Jun 15, 2014 goat starer said: Krakhedd said: goat starer said: America is easy. We just colour it red like all the rest of the empire. Yeah cuz this isn't offensive, either How's that offensive? I think its a fairly well established fact that America is a rebellious British colony. The fact that we allow the current state of affairs to persist speaks only of British manners. Just one more red area on a global map of the empire on which the sun never sets. Watch it Goat. I'm a decedent of those revolutionaries that overthrew the tyranny of British empire, only to have it form it's own brand of tyranny, but, eh, we learned from the best. As a matter of fact, I believe we've saved the British bacon a few times in past couple world wars through our 'special' relationship. As for the government, ours is probably the worst form of government that ever existed except for all the others that have ever been tried. (All hail WC!) To add insult to injury, I'm also from Texas, where every man, woman and most of their children and pets own at least one gun so if the British ever want to go for round three, I hear California is easy pickings... ......................... vet wv Posted Dec 14, 2014, 8:28 pm Last edited Dec 14, 2014, 8:30 pm by Bill Butcher Cutting

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,907 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 That's a rather generous assessmet of arriving late for a few wars after other people have done all the work... And then charging people you already.owe several hundred years of back taxes to for the pribiledge of letting you have a go. Just pay your taxes and we can.put this embarrassing rebellion behind us. In fact I think the only war you helped us win was the war of independence... The British would have lost that one... But as it was fought by British colonists against the British then we still hada British winner! God Save the Queen! ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted Dec 14, 2014, 8:45 pm Last edited Dec 14, 2014, 9:12 pm by goat starer

*StCrispin* Beasts of the Lair Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,657 Joined: Feb 13, 2012 goat starer said: America is easy. We just colour it red like all the rest of the empire. Other than "color it red" having the meaning of killing everyone...  That's a good idea.  It would lend to the starkness of a wastelandic future.  A monochromatic theme to the overall design.  I've never been a fan of that stylistic approach but it could work. We'd also have to color England and Europe red as well for the Roadwar: Europa expansion.  to keep the overall theme. ......................... vet wv gwped paintladder paintball marshal raceL10,1,0 Posted Dec 14, 2014, 9:21 pm

Krakhedd FAQ Crew Autodueller Morgan Faction Group: Subscribers Posts: 351 Joined: Aug 19, 2012 *StCrispin* said: goat starer said: America is easy. We just colour it red like all the rest of the empire. Other than "color it red" having the meaning of killing everyone...  That's a good idea.  It would lend to the starkness of a wastelandic future.  A monochromatic theme to the overall design.  I've never been a fan of that stylistic approach but it could work. We'd also have to color England and Europe red as well for the Roadwar: Europa expansion.  to keep the overall theme. x2 to this ......................... vet wv raceL1 pvp3 paintball9,2,9 Posted Dec 14, 2014, 9:34 pm

Krakhedd FAQ Crew Autodueller Morgan Faction Group: Subscribers Posts: 351 Joined: Aug 19, 2012 goat starer said: That's a rather generous assessmet of arriving late for a few wars after other people have done all the work... And then charging people you already.owe several hundred years of back taxes to for the pribiledge of letting you have a go. Just pay your taxes and we can.put this embarrassing rebellion behind us. In fact I think the only war you helped us win was the war of independence... The British would have lost that one... But as it was fought by British colonists against the British then we still hada British winner! God Save the Queen! Embarrassed you couldn't win on your own without our help? That's OK Goat cuz your opinions, apart from their repeated and flagrant habits to violate the Terms of Service, mean nothing to me. ......................... vet wv raceL1 pvp3 paintball9,2,9 Posted Dec 14, 2014, 9:35 pm Last edited Dec 14, 2014, 9:35 pm by Krakhedd

Bill Butcher Cutting The Butchers of Boozetown Racer Badlands Truckstop Faction Group: Members Posts: 202 Joined: Jun 15, 2014 Krakhedd said: goat starer said: That's a rather generous assessmet of arriving late for a few wars after other people have done all the work... And then charging people you already.owe several hundred years of back taxes to for the pribiledge of letting you have a go. Just pay your taxes and we can.put this embarrassing rebellion behind us. In fact I think the only war you helped us win was the war of independence... The British would have lost that one... But as it was fought by British colonists against the British then we still hada British winner! God Save the Queen! Embarrassed you couldn't win on your own without our help? That's OK Goat cuz your opinions, apart from their repeated and flagrant habits to violate the Terms of Service, mean nothing to me. Can we please keep it fun and friendly? ......................... vet wv Posted Dec 14, 2014, 10:28 pm

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,907 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 *StCrispin* said: goat starer said: America is easy. We just colour it red like all the rest of the empire. Other than "color it red" having the meaning of killing everyone...  That's a good idea.  It would lend to the starkness of a wastelandic future.  A monochromatic theme to the overall design.  I've never been a fan of that stylistic approach but it could work. We'd also have to color England and Europe red as well for the Roadwar: Europa expansion.  to keep the overall theme. Once again your lack of knowledge / education is shocking. The standard maps of the world used until the mid 20th century showed the British empire as coloured red. Will file that under your racist posting, misunderstanding cultural references and general lack of any knowledge of the world outside of your own head. You are a plonker... And when krakk is aligning himself with you (because some time ago I.told him calling yourself by a drug reference and constantly posting about drugs in the lobby was immature) you should be taking a look at what you are saying and think "is this really.someone I want to he associated with". ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted Dec 15, 2014, 11:55 am

ZomBPir8Ninja Zombified Piratey Ninjas Racer Badlands Truckstop Faction Group: Members Posts: 151 Joined: Oct 1, 2009 Why must you derail every forum post into unrelated nonsense? ......................... vet wv pvp5 pvp4 ped2 gwped paintladder Posted Dec 15, 2014, 12:36 pm

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,907 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 Because.... It's fun watching certain people suffer inevitable apoplectic fits and sense of humour failures The nonsense makes more sense than most of the serious stuff This one was answered by Sam several pages back... Any further discussion is just puffery It's fun (i may have said that but its,hard to overemphasise) ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted Dec 15, 2014, 1:20 pm

Racing Robbie The White Ashes Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 761 Joined: Jul 3, 2012 goat starer said: Once again your lack of knowledge / education is shocking. The standard maps of the world used until the mid 20th century showed the British empire as coloured red. To be honest mate I think that is on the harsh side – not everyone will be aware of that fact. The way the humble world map has been used for propaganda over the years is as scary as it is interesting – going from the projection used to draw the map and way it distorts the shapes of countries, and thorough the way colours are used for the various blocks. Right through to the outrageous propaganda from the many different wars. Added to the fact that different countries use different layouts, like having their own country shown as the centre of the map - I have a great kid’s atlas, which my little girl loves, but when you look at it you would believe that Scandinavian was the centre of the known world :-) So I would suggest that is one is a cultural difference rather than anything else – I’m not 100% sure if this is right but I have a feeling that a number of maps produced during the cold war showed the USSR in red. ......................... vet wv northernsummer e2g raceL1 deathrceL1 slay2013 pvp3 ww pvp1 semiprocombat0,1,0 Posted Dec 15, 2014, 1:40 pm

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,907 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 *StCrispin* said: Perhaps remove the "hype" blurb review thing that claims the game receives "frequent content injections" ?  Then no one can legitimately claim content should be frequently added to the game.at. It's not hype blurb. Over its history there have been many many content injections... The main difference is that the player base has become increasingly reactionary. The last few,introduced had to be reversed because of the inevitable whinging. If I were Sam I wouldn't be adding new content.. its not worth the effort for the tail end of a game and you can bet your cotton socks,that if into the ruins was introduced it would kill someone's players and spark another round of childish complaints. Yet even then Sam still puts content in. We are looking at a Christmas event... There were recently Halloween events. Frankly we get a lot more than we deserve. ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted Dec 15, 2014, 1:42 pm

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,907 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 Racing Robbie said: goat starer said: Once again your lack of knowledge / education is shocking. The standard maps of the world used until the mid 20th century showed the British empire as coloured red. To be honest mate I think that is on the harsh side – not everyone will be aware of that fact. The way the humble world map has been used for propaganda over the years is as scary as it is interesting – going from the projection used to draw the map and way it distorts the shapes of countries, and thorough the way colours are used for the various blocks. Right through to the outrageous propaganda from the many different wars. Added to the fact that different countries use different layouts, like having their own country shown as the centre of the map - I have a great kid’s atlas, which my little girl loves, but when you look at it you would believe that Scandinavian was the centre of the known world :-) So I would suggest that is one is a cultural difference rather than anything else – I’m not 100% sure if this is right but I have a feeling that a number of maps produced during the cold war showed the USSR in red. Probably British...we controlled the place through philby, blunt et al ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted Dec 15, 2014, 1:44 pm

Krakhedd FAQ Crew Autodueller Morgan Faction Group: Subscribers Posts: 351 Joined: Aug 19, 2012 goat starer said: You are a plonker... And when krakk is aligning himself with you (because some time ago I.told him calling yourself by a drug reference and constantly posting about drugs in the lobby was immature) you should be taking a look at what you are saying and think "is this really.someone I want to he associated with". I didn't "align" myself, I just take strong exception to the accomodations afforded you by the lack of your banning. And, as stated in the lobby that day you made an unsolicited attack upon me, it's not a direct drug reference, it's a handle I have used for over 20 years.  Speaks more to my mindset as typically happy-go-lucky and a bit crazy, than it is a reference to crack cocaine. Immaturity?  Repeated personal attacks and name-calling are sure signs of that, Goat. Grow up. ......................... vet wv raceL1 pvp3 paintball9,2,9 Posted Dec 15, 2014, 4:30 pm

Krakhedd FAQ Crew Autodueller Morgan Faction Group: Subscribers Posts: 351 Joined: Aug 19, 2012 ZomBPir8Ninja said: Why must you derail every forum post into unrelated nonsense? ....and I agree with an Alley member?  Sheesh.  Darkwind is in dark days, indeed. ......................... vet wv raceL1 pvp3 paintball9,2,9 Posted Dec 15, 2014, 4:30 pm

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