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Rehab not showing improvement in addiction

Dirt33a Dirty Mo Posse Pedestrian Renegade Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: Feb 10, 2010 Rehab not working for any other non-subs? I've had 2 gangers there in rehab for at least 2-3 months, no change at all. ......................... vet wv0,2,0 Posted Oct 11, 2014, 2:33 am

*The X Man* Better Off Dead Darkwind Guru Slavers Faction Group: Game Manager Posts: 2,207 Joined: Jul 25, 2012 This topic was split off as a separate topic for discussion and for Sam to review. Dirt33a said: Rehab not working for any other non-subs? I've had 2 gangers there in rehab for at least 2-3 months, no change at all. It does work, just not as well as we hope. I had 3 guys in rehab and the only one that showed improvement was the one who had a minor addiction. My other two were heavy addicts and they used rehab for almost 2 full RL months without any noticeable change. ......................... vet wv marshal paintladder zom circuit3 paintball raceL1 race1 pvp4 hammer circuit2 pvp2 circuit1 gwped pvp5 pvp3 pvp1 deathrceL1 triangle1 combatL1 elmsautumn combat1 northernsummer1,3,0 Posted Oct 11, 2014, 9:44 am Last edited Oct 17, 2014, 6:07 pm by *The X Man*

Dirt33a Dirty Mo Posse Pedestrian Renegade Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: Feb 10, 2010 They have been there since the steam release. ......................... vet wv0,2,0 Posted Oct 11, 2014, 9:42 pm

Dirt33a Dirty Mo Posse Pedestrian Renegade Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: Feb 10, 2010 another week, still no change! ......................... vet wv0,2,0 Posted Oct 17, 2014, 3:50 pm

*The X Man* Better Off Dead Darkwind Guru Slavers Faction Group: Game Manager Posts: 2,207 Joined: Jul 25, 2012 Dirt33a said: another week, still no change! Dirt, can you list your characters names ID numbers so Sam can check these when he has a spare moment, thanks. I am sure there are more than a few players possibly having issues with this. ......................... vet wv marshal paintladder zom circuit3 paintball raceL1 race1 pvp4 hammer circuit2 pvp2 circuit1 gwped pvp5 pvp3 pvp1 deathrceL1 triangle1 combatL1 elmsautumn combat1 northernsummer1,3,0 Posted Oct 17, 2014, 6:09 pm

Grimm Sykes Sand xbzyas Darkwind Guru Merchants Faction Group: Banned Posts: 1,372 Joined: Mar 14, 2010 i just fire them if they don't get over their addiction within 3 months real world time. ......................... vet wv pvp5 pvp4 Posted Oct 17, 2014, 8:32 pm

ZomBPir8Ninja Zombified Piratey Ninjas Racer Badlands Truckstop Faction Group: Members Posts: 151 Joined: Oct 1, 2009 I had six gangers in Elms for rehab. One of them was a Motivator 3. All of them saw improvement over two weeks, with four of them completing rehab last night. Unfortunately, one of the gangers leaving is the motivator. So I expect the last two to sit there for quite a while now. ......................... vet wv pvp5 pvp4 ped2 gwped paintladder Posted Oct 17, 2014, 8:57 pm

Dirt33a Dirty Mo Posse Pedestrian Renegade Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: Feb 10, 2010 Chad Knaus 552704 Claude Hoyt 609107 I dont fire them because I couldn't hire any replacements for them, and also have a lot more gangers that need re-hab but why bother till it works for these 2 gangers? ......................... vet wv0,2,0 Posted Oct 17, 2014, 10:21 pm

*The X Man* Better Off Dead Darkwind Guru Slavers Faction Group: Game Manager Posts: 2,207 Joined: Jul 25, 2012 Dirt, you are not a current subscriber. So that may be the reason your guys are not showing signs of improvement. Weekly Training is done at the same time as Rehab, which is not available to non subs. Still, we need to hear from Sam that if this is correct or if it should be changed so rehab is made available to all player types. ......................... vet wv marshal paintladder zom circuit3 paintball raceL1 race1 pvp4 hammer circuit2 pvp2 circuit1 gwped pvp5 pvp3 pvp1 deathrceL1 triangle1 combatL1 elmsautumn combat1 northernsummer1,3,0 Posted Oct 17, 2014, 11:09 pm Last edited Oct 17, 2014, 11:10 pm by *The X Man*

Grimm Sykes Sand xbzyas Darkwind Guru Merchants Faction Group: Banned Posts: 1,372 Joined: Mar 14, 2010 Do you have the funds to pay weekly for their rehab? ......................... vet wv pvp5 pvp4 Posted Oct 18, 2014, 12:52 am

Dirt33a Dirty Mo Posse Pedestrian Renegade Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: Feb 10, 2010 Yes I have plenty of cash to pay for re-hab. ......................... vet wv0,2,0 Posted Oct 20, 2014, 4:19 am

Crazy AL Street Pizza Darkwind Guru Merchants Faction Group: Members Posts: 1,228 Joined: Feb 14, 2008 I have 6 people currently in rehab where it was once 7 (who is now clean). They are all progressing, albeit very slowly. ......................... vet wv zom pvp1 ped1 Posted Oct 20, 2014, 5:13 am

Dirt33a Dirty Mo Posse Pedestrian Renegade Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: Feb 10, 2010 Another week, still no improvement! ......................... vet wv0,2,0 Posted Oct 25, 2014, 7:55 pm

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 Sorry for the delay! Yes, rehab is processed at the same time as training and as such non-premium players could not use it. However, that's a bit unfair so I have just modified the code so that anyone can use rehab. ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Oct 25, 2014, 8:04 pm

Dirt33a Dirty Mo Posse Pedestrian Renegade Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: Feb 10, 2010 Thank you Sam! ......................... vet wv0,2,0 Posted Oct 25, 2014, 8:14 pm

*The X Man* Better Off Dead Darkwind Guru Slavers Faction Group: Game Manager Posts: 2,207 Joined: Jul 25, 2012 Thank you Sam, that makes a lot more sense for the new players, especially for the ones who have not had a chance to subscribe. ......................... vet wv marshal paintladder zom circuit3 paintball raceL1 race1 pvp4 hammer circuit2 pvp2 circuit1 gwped pvp5 pvp3 pvp1 deathrceL1 triangle1 combatL1 elmsautumn combat1 northernsummer1,3,0 Posted Oct 25, 2014, 8:16 pm

*Longo* Longos Merry Men Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 6,659 Joined: Dec 15, 2007 Sam - Did you tweak something else? My leader cant win!! Last week , he even got worse. Novocaine user,Alcohol addict 1 wk - Novocaine ex-user,Alcohol addict 2 wk - Novocaine ex-user,Alcohol addict 3 wk - no change 4 wk - no change 5 wk - Novocaine ex-user,Alcohol heavy user 6 wk - Novocaine ex-user,Alcohol user 7 wk - Novocaine ex-user,Alcohol user 8 wk - Novocaine ex-user,Alcohol light user 9 wk - no change 10 wk Alcohol user! ......................... vet combatL1 ped1 paintladder semiprocombat ped2 wv pvp4 pvp1 gwped paintball pvp3 pvp5 slay2013 marshal circuit2 combat1 e2g raceL1 gwextrav gateautumn pvp2 triangle1 Posted Oct 31, 2014, 2:19 pm

Grimm Sykes Sand xbzyas Darkwind Guru Merchants Faction Group: Banned Posts: 1,372 Joined: Mar 14, 2010 drunks are a hopeless cause? Did you know, IRL, if you go to a AA meeting, you have about 3% chance of still being sober in a year? if you quit cold turkey with no help you have about 2.8% chance of being sober in 1 year. If you use religion to quit, you have about 2% chance of being sober after a year. sure a rehab works, but it's only a fraction of a percentage more effective then quitting on your own and in darkwind quitting on your own is not even a option. besides AA based rehabs all work on the principle of religion. They don't cure anyone that way, they just replace the chemical addiction with a god addiction. Trading altered reality world for an illogical fantasy world. ......................... vet wv pvp5 pvp4 Posted Oct 31, 2014, 3:04 pm Last edited Oct 31, 2014, 3:08 pm by Grimm Sykes

*Longo* Longos Merry Men Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 6,659 Joined: Dec 15, 2007 Rehabs can get in the 5% range for permanent cure. There are alot of factors involved, the most important ones being the person wanting to be cured, good support system and having an environment for the person after rehab that is the least likely to get them to relapse. Its well worth it even if it cures just 1 person out of 100, or 1,000. ......................... vet combatL1 ped1 paintladder semiprocombat ped2 wv pvp4 pvp1 gwped paintball pvp3 pvp5 slay2013 marshal circuit2 combat1 e2g raceL1 gwextrav gateautumn pvp2 triangle1 Posted Oct 31, 2014, 5:02 pm

Grimm Sykes Sand xbzyas Darkwind Guru Merchants Faction Group: Banned Posts: 1,372 Joined: Mar 14, 2010 but if that have all that motivation and self control, they dont need a group or rehab telling them stories ......................... vet wv pvp5 pvp4 Posted Oct 31, 2014, 7:41 pm

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