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*Tinker* BibleThumpers Anonymous Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 4,546 Joined: Aug 1, 2008 If the MMO client and the SP could be united, that would sure help i think, good ideas on the free sub tiers ......................... vet marshal wv pvp3 zom circuit2 pvp1 cont Posted May 11, 2012, 9:20 am

Ender Card Enders Rangers Sunday Driver Renegade Group: Members Posts: 41 Joined: Jan 10, 2008 Yes i really like the idea now. Something like $75 gets you a free 3 month subscription $100 Gets you early access to the beta of the single player game/new client $150 gets you a free 6 month subscription and maybe a novella of the existing short stories to download $200 gets you a free 1 year subscription, 2nd copy of the game I think doing something like xenonauts with their $200 would also be very enticing and get prospective players interested. I also suggested that at $250 tier would include the ability to customize you stats for a limited number of pledgers. Obviously you would have to do it within a range, but allowing a subscriber to generate their own avatar in the game so everyone else can enjoy is really going to tickle a lot of gamers. Add these with a few other incentives and existing subscriber base to use this for their next subscription and to participate in the kickstart. A nice side effect is you would balloon the subscription base for the existing game with a load of new players, and get that much more input for helping to refine the upcoming development. ......................... vet Posted May 11, 2012, 3:34 pm Last edited May 11, 2012, 3:57 pm by Ender Card

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,781 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 Yeah, I had considered the idea of putting DW subscriptions in as rewards. Possibly a lifetime sub as one of them? I think your suggested prices might be a bit high though. ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted May 11, 2012, 4:11 pm

Ender Card Enders Rangers Sunday Driver Renegade Group: Members Posts: 41 Joined: Jan 10, 2008 I did a rough conversion to US currency assuming you were considering kickstart, but yes i think to get the premium swaag (per se) should be higher than just a normal sub. Afterall, You need the revenue to get you the resources and time to do it right. I will admit, I maybe went a tad high, the lower you go the more accessable it wil be to a broader base of general fans, but I personally wouldn't blink at all at that proposed pricing. ......................... vet Posted May 11, 2012, 4:27 pm Last edited May 11, 2012, 4:29 pm by Ender Card

Iron Wraith Iron Wraiths Darkwind Guru Civs Faction Group: Members Posts: 818 Joined: Feb 2, 2009 Hi all. I gave up DW for lent. A free 1 month subscription included with the game could be a good hook into the MMO (and allow us ex-subs to export our gangs into the SP game). As Sam points out, since the MMO has a subbscription model anyway, you can't set your "free" benefit from a pledge at more than you would have to pay if you subscribed conventionally. Surely the minimum level of pledge gets you the stand alone game (and this needs to be set at $15-20 for a down-loadable version if Wasteland 2 is anything to go by). If you insist on a physical distribution then your costs are going to escalate to point you may no longer be competitive. I have searched high and low and there isn't anything like DW available currently (or I'd have bought it in a heartbeat) The world is FPS according to the gods of marketing. Once Wasteland 2 hits the bricks the marketeers may have changed their tune and there may be a rush to market. The bottom may also fall out of the crowd-fund craze (someone is bound to rip people off and the whole thing could collapse). My wife is far happier with the idea of SP with a save game than the MMO ......................... vet wv raceL1 deathrceL1 Posted May 11, 2012, 4:38 pm

Ender Card Enders Rangers Sunday Driver Renegade Group: Members Posts: 41 Joined: Jan 10, 2008 Ok I see the point intellectually. My personal passion feels it’s perfectly acceptable for this to be on par (if not better) than Wasteland 2. However it is logical to look at this from an indie perspective, which is commonly targeted at the $20 (US centric) range. I will make the point that you are getting the game AND a subscription so they SHOULDN’T be the same price. So with that in mind… So recalculating from that frame of mind something like: $20 gets you the game, and 1 month trial subscription (great idea btw, Iron Wraith) $30 gets you the game and some basic swag $40 gets you the special edition version of the game, access to beta via steam and free 3 month subscription to Dark Wind Online $60 gets you the special edition version of the game, access to beta via steam and 3 ADDITIONAL month subscription to the Dark Wind Online and an online novella of the game world $80 gets you 2x special edition version of the game, access to beta via steam and 6 ADDITIONAL month subscription (for a total of one year) to the Dark Wind Online. And something like $400 gets you several copies plus lifetime (I know several of the subscribers would probably consider that especially if it included some other interesting perks) ......................... vet Posted May 11, 2012, 6:54 pm

Ender Card Enders Rangers Sunday Driver Renegade Group: Members Posts: 41 Joined: Jan 10, 2008 I kniow this is Sam's baby and sure he has his own ideas (and based on the game I'm sure brillant ones) on how to do this, but I love the idea of creating a wiki page and have everyone collobrate on the look and feel of the kickstart. Free up Sam to direct and focus on doing the job of making an awesome game awesome...er! You know what I mean. ......................... vet Posted May 11, 2012, 6:58 pm Last edited May 11, 2012, 7:00 pm by Ender Card

Silvra Infinite Justice Sunday Driver Renegade Group: Members Posts: 26 Joined: Jan 11, 2012 pledge 1000 dollars and get access to the special teleporter slavers use to get your guys to firelight and back. ......................... wv vet Posted May 11, 2012, 7:13 pm

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,781 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 Ender Card said: I kniow this is Sam's baby and sure he has his own ideas (and based on the game I'm sure brillant ones) on how to do this, but I love the idea of creating a wiki page and have everyone collobrate on the look and feel of the kickstart. Free up Sam to direct and focus on doing the job of making an awesome game awesome...er! You know what I mean.  Give me a few days.. I'll try to get my ideas put together into a document this week, and we'll take it from there? ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted May 13, 2012, 11:21 am

Ender Card Enders Rangers Sunday Driver Renegade Group: Members Posts: 41 Joined: Jan 10, 2008 Awesome! Getting excited about this becoming more likely a reality! ......................... vet Posted May 13, 2012, 5:43 pm

Karz Master Alpha Junkers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Storytellers + IP Posts: 2,375 Joined: Nov 13, 2006 *sam* said: Give me a few days.. I'll try to get my ideas put together into a document this week, and we'll take it from there? I'm heterosexual, but ... ......................... vet wv zom Posted May 13, 2012, 8:52 pm

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,781 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 Oh I dunno Karz, I always thought that Conan stuff smacked strongly of man-love ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted May 14, 2012, 12:20 pm

FireFly Anarcho-Pumpkin Privateers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 5,468 Joined: Mar 3, 2008 He could always be Bi, keeping the options open ......................... vet wv zom gateautumn deathrceL1 elmsautumn pvp1 pvp2 sssc raceL1 e2g combatL1 santa1 pvp3 gwextrav ww circuit32,18,0 Posted May 14, 2012, 12:25 pm

Iron Wraith Iron Wraiths Darkwind Guru Civs Faction Group: Members Posts: 818 Joined: Feb 2, 2009 Doubles your chance of a date on Saturday nights ......................... vet wv raceL1 deathrceL1 Posted May 14, 2012, 8:29 pm

Karz Master Alpha Junkers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Storytellers + IP Posts: 2,375 Joined: Nov 13, 2006 Less speculating on one's sexuality and moar wanking to Darkwind 2 pl0x! ......................... vet wv zom Posted May 15, 2012, 9:11 am

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