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ShotGun Jolly said:
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Which is your camp, by the way?  I do realise that some of the small camps are very much inside a big camp's area of influence. If anyone has suggestions, I'll listen - but continually moving camps around seems like a bad idea overall.  The one-off amnesty was only supposed to be once.


Oh, I agree moving camps continually would be a problem. But giving that option, even only once, to the bigger camps which has been around for a long time and well established has and will give them a distinct advantage over anyone else who is just getting started. Most of, if not all of the juicer spots are taken, or the camp would need to be way the heck off the beaten path.

But I get it, its a moot point now. There had to be a starting point.

I am giving you a perspective from a player who has not already benefited from moving his camp to a nice sweet spot. I doubt many people will buy a new camp, just to get into a camp war either.

Do not get me wrong, I think this camp war system is going to be a lot of fun. But I think the entry point for new players, or new camp owners should be looked in the long term. This is only new and lots can change yet.



Sorry but you are wrong.  I WISH I COULD MOVE MY CAMP RIGHT NOW.  There are still at least  3 REALLY AWESOME starting spots for a camp.  You wouldn't even have to fight.

You DO NOT Want a PVP camp in the center right now (so called juicy spot).

You have a severe advantage even being allowed to make a new camp and then join in PvP game right away.
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Posted May 23, 2020, 5:15 pm Last edited May 23, 2020, 5:16 pm by Joel Autobaun
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Hmmm, what exactly am I wrong about? You are really not making any sense. I am not trying to start something with you Joel, but just hear me out, when I say you are not making any sense. As it sounds like you and I agree.

But first, answer this question. I agreed that moving camps constantly would be wrong.. Do you disagree with that?

Ok, now for the rest of it...
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Sorry but you are wrong.  I WISH I COULD MOVE MY CAMP RIGHT NOW.  There are still at least  3 REALLY AWESOME starting spots for a camp.  You wouldn't even have to fight
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I wish I could move my camp too! and I want too so bad as I am at a severe disadvantage if I want to join Camp Wars. So, it sounds to me like we both agree.

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You DO NOT Want a PVP camp in the center right now (so called juicy spot).


My point perfectly, neither do I, as I am RIGHT IN THE CENTER!

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You have a severe advantage even being allowed to make a new camp and then join in PvP game right away.


I can see that to a point, but that is not what my post is about, as I am not making a new camp at the current moment. So I can actually agree with you.

So, what was I actually wrong about?
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Posted May 26, 2020, 11:17 pm
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Shotgun -
You do have options, although unconventional, that would allow you to "move" your camp.

1)Sell yours and build a new one. It wont go for a premium, but there are buyers out there right now. Maybe one of the owners of your camp close to you would buy it just to not have a neighbor?

2) See if anyone is willing to trade you their camp for yours. Maybe someone wants to jump into the Pvp. Yours is a tiny camp, but comparable to a SS one. Maybe someone would swap you...

I think all but maybe 2 of the Pvp camp owners would be angry if you were allowed to move your camp now. Why didnt you move it before? If you acquired it afterwards, why didnt you inquire about the ability to move the camp before buying it?

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Posted May 26, 2020, 11:35 pm
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Yup shotgun I read you wrong - we agree. I thought you were complaining about choice where to put a new camp.
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Posted May 26, 2020, 11:50 pm
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*Longo* said:
Shotgun -
You do have options, although unconventional, that would allow you to "move" your camp.

1)Sell yours and build a new one. It wont go for a premium, but there are buyers out there right now. Maybe one of the owners of your camp close to you would buy it just to not have a neighbor?

2) See if anyone is willing to trade you their camp for yours. Maybe someone wants to jump into the Pvp. Yours is a tiny camp, but comparable to a SS one. Maybe someone would swap you...

I think all but maybe 2 of the Pvp camp owners would be angry if you were allowed to move your camp now. Why didnt you move it before? If you acquired it afterwards, why didnt you inquire about the ability to move the camp before buying it?



Hey Longo,

No, its ok.. I am happy with my camp. I was just getting back into DW, having being gone for a few months, and this camp became available which was almost excatly where I wanted to build a camp in the first place.

But I pretty much got it just as the camp wars are starting, so I didnt get fully upto speed with what it involved till a week after it started.

But as to your last paragraph, I was not really asking for myself. I am just discussing a perspective that I see, that may inhibit or turn newer players away from wanting to try and build a PVP camp. As much as I think the camp wars is cool. I have 0 interest in trying to get involved as I see it as being a super major disadvantage vs already camps that picked and choose there new locations/spots to maximize there potential. Either with locations, moving camps closer to other camps to benefit the actual war camp.. stuff like that.

In short, I do not see it as balanced at all.. not even remotely for new camps.
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Posted May 27, 2020, 6:03 am
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ShotGun Jolly said:



In short, I do not see it as balanced at all.. not even remotely for new camps.


There have been several camps that joined in late, and have been doing fine. I’m sure a brand new player with a “power player” mentality could potentially start playing DW and get into camp wars and be successful within a few months, but not likely. I don’t think the game is designed to have this happen, and to be honest, would it be fair to others who have trained their gangs, built there camps, and acquired assets over the past 5 years to be destroyed by every player who joins DW and plays 3 months, gets a camp and starts camp wars? That wouldn’t make much sense. But a gang who has been around 6 months, makes some friends, trains a lot, acquires a camp, and decides to try camp combat? Not sure how successful he might be, but he could still get some fun out of camp wars(unless it’s in SS, he could potentially dominate ).
If your interested in camp wars, I’d be happy to talk to you about them and get you involved. PM me, or we can talk on discord now that I know how to somewhat work it, haha
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Posted May 27, 2020, 2:06 pm
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ShotGun Jolly said:
I have 0 interest in trying to get involved as I see it as being a super major disadvantage vs already camps that picked and choose there new locations/spots to maximize there potential


In terms of resources on tiles, I haven't finished adding these yet. The plan is for most of the map to have useful resources nearby.
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Posted May 27, 2020, 4:02 pm
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*sam* said:
In terms of resources on tiles, I haven't finished adding these yet. The plan is for most of the map to have useful resources nearby.


Good to know, I will be more patient
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