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Don't include ballistic weapons in DW2

Grimm Sykes Sand xbzyas Darkwind Guru Merchants Faction Group: Banned Posts: 1,372 Joined: Mar 14, 2010 train wreck ......................... vet wv pvp5 pvp4 Posted Feb 14, 2014, 6:00 pm

Fozzie Muppet Mayhem Pedestrian Renegade Group: Members Posts: 5 Joined: May 9, 2009 StCrispin said: goat starer said: making the turn sequence faster You may have missed this part Goat... DW2 is supposedly going to be Real-Time.  No Turn sequence at all!  Cant get faster than that. Thankfully that appears to be incorrect. From Sam's latest post: *sam* said: Thanks for the thoughts :-) Regarding DW2: things are happening :-) Not exactly along the lines of what we were discussing here, though. I do appreciate your comments about DW's uniqueness in terms of turn-based vehicular combat. I very much think this myself, and it's the core experience that I want to build DW2 around. ......................... vet wv Posted Feb 14, 2014, 8:25 pm

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,908 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 Yeah... I find it helps to ask Sam what he is planning rather than just making it up in your head ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted Feb 15, 2014, 5:45 pm

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,513 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 Don't be silly ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,1 Posted Feb 15, 2014, 9:31 pm

*StCrispin* Beasts of the Lair Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,657 Joined: Feb 13, 2012 If you notice he says DW is turn based. And he wants DW2 to have the DW as its core idea. He has said repeatedly (despite all of our woe crying about not wanting a real time game) that he wants DW2 to be real time and similar in playstyle to League of Legends. Maybe he has changed his mind. But I have not seen a post indicating that. Not that it matters. What Sam makes is what Sam makes. ......................... vet wv gwped paintladder paintball marshal raceL10,1,0 Posted Feb 16, 2014, 2:00 am

*Rev. V* Cestus Dei Darkwind Guru Civs Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 3,208 Joined: Aug 3, 2010 " He has said repeatedly (despite all of our woe crying about not wanting a real time game) that he wants DW2 to be real time" If there's 2 things Sam WILL be sticking with for DW2, it's turn based play, and perma-death. ......................... vet wv zom marshal paintladder cont Posted Feb 16, 2014, 7:43 pm

simonmaxhill Drive Backwards BFFs Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Storytellers Posts: 1,503 Joined: Mar 10, 2008 Maybe I used the term "indirect fire" incorrectly. I'm interested in seeing mortar and artillery-type weapons removed from the game. My primarily gripe is (as before) that they bypass terrain features, which to me are an important part of making it a tactical game. There's plenty of real time twitch games of cars with guns that are really fun, but I'd definitely prefer Darkwind remain a turn based, squad vehicle combat game. I'm not super familiar with the M1 Abrams, but at what distances does it's fire become "indirect" and not "point blank"?  At what ranges does it lob shells over hills? StCrispin said: simonmaxhill said: My humble opinion: Indirect fire weapons from moving vehicles at moving vehicles is 1. silly 2. bypasses terrain, the skillful use of which is fundamental to dogfighting 3. pretty unrealistic Either ditch em, make them so wildly inaccurate that even in the hands of the most skilled ballistics gunner, they'd be worthless except against packs of opponents. And get rid of the paint ones, because those are 10x silly. Like 80's movie hairspray flamethrower silly. Actually Indirect fire is Very common from a Moving Vehicle. Example:  M1A1 Abrams Tank. Any fire beyond what is Classified as POINT BLANK RANGE (Defined as the range at which the trajectory is flat and ballistics properties do not matter) is in fact Indirect. Once again you have suggested something that takes DW farther away from a simulation of vehicular combat and closer to being a Twitch and Click Arcade Shooter game. You might want to try Spy Hunter if that's your type of game.  As for myself I prefer something believable at least to a small degree. (since DW does not calculate deflection of shells which strike at extreme obliquities.  It isnstead figures a 90 degree obliquity and a 15 degree obliquity to inflict the same penetration damage.  oh well.) ......................... vet wv Posted Feb 25, 2014, 9:05 pm Last edited Feb 25, 2014, 9:05 pm by simonmaxhill

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,908 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 Simon. The thing with the Abrams is that it employs top secret US anti grav muzzle enhancement... Basically the projectile has a temporary gravity nullifying coating applied by imps as if leaves the big tube thing on the tank, allowing the effects of gravity to be counterbalanced for up to 27 feet and 6 inches. It's all very hush hush but luckily we have Crispin to help with his scooper sleuth clearance. ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted Feb 25, 2014, 11:55 pm

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