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vehicle specialisms = permadamaged gear is valuable

*Dark Tempest* The Black Legion Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,049 Joined: Jan 27, 2010 Veritio I love that idea. Have gunners that say right in there description, "Expert Front Gatling Gun in CarX" "Expert Driver in CarY" "Expert mechanic riding in CarZ" (From having odd tools and useful scraps accumulated in the car. "Expert reloading in CarT" (Know exactly where he want that tenth rocket that always seems to get in everyone else way trying to reload in the Apache in question.) etc. ......................... vet wv marshal pvp2 Posted Mar 3, 2010, 10:44 pm Last edited Mar 3, 2010, 10:49 pm by Dark Tempest 666

FireFly Anarcho-Pumpkin Privateers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 5,468 Joined: Mar 3, 2008 So... whatever happened to this brilliant idea...? ......................... vet wv zom gateautumn deathrceL1 elmsautumn pvp1 pvp2 sssc raceL1 e2g combatL1 santa1 pvp3 gwextrav ww circuit32,18,0 Posted Mar 24, 2010, 8:30 pm

Oscoda The Chargers Racer Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 129 Joined: Jan 31, 2010 Joel Autobaun said: Simple - Renowned - pick one, Famous - Pickone, Legendary - pick one. 3 Max. I like this. Perhaps add that at Renowned *and* 5% permadamage, pick one. Famous *and* 10% permadamage, pick one. Legendary *and* 15% permadamage, pick one. Maybe 'cap' a car at one or two, just like players cap at lower levels. This means cars already in the system don't have to worry about keeping track of kills or other data that isn't tracked now. Lots of the character specializations could be used to try out the system.  Jumpstart, Offensive driver, Rapid reloading, Engine tuning (for that car specifically), combat psychologist, the courage skills,  all of these could get applied to the car. The psychologist and courage skills are based off of how the gang sees the car.  A cars personality is pretty much decided at the bar drinking with the gang, so if a couple gangers swear the car saved their life, it changes their mental condition when in the car. ......................... vet wv Posted May 22, 2010, 5:04 pm

ISHOULDCOCO COCO and the BURPERS Darkwind Guru Civs Faction Group: Storytellers Posts: 1,440 Joined: Jul 5, 2007 I am anti vehicle specialisms this is my personal opinion, I must emphasize But it too WOWish , too sentimental.yuck. This is DW , everything dies. Full stop It is inconsistent with the ethos of DW DW is pitiless , not sentimental It would be just another way for Vets to lord over newbs another PVP power gap this is my personal opinion COCO ......................... vet wv Posted Sep 2, 2010, 9:35 pm

Joel Autobaun Joels Bastards Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Sinbinned Posts: 4,598 Joined: Nov 10, 2008 Everything DOES NOT die. 96% is as dead as "things" get. How about implement vehicle specs at the same time make permenant damage go all the way to 0%(gone)? ......................... vet northernsummer deathrce1 raceL1 deathrceL1 ww ped1 sssc paintball semiprocombat ped2 e2g gwextrav gwped combat1 paintladder elmsautumn gateautumn wv race1 combatL1 pvp1 pvp5 pvp4 zom pvp3 circuit1 pvp2 circuit2 circuit3 ss2fl67 slay2013 storm2013 geek triangle198,96,31 Posted Sep 2, 2010, 9:49 pm

Khornishman Khornates Pedestrian Civs Faction Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: Oct 17, 2010 ISHOULDCOCO said: I am anti vehicle specialisms this is my personal opinion, I must emphasize But it too WOWish , too sentimental.yuck. This is DW , everything dies. Full stop It is inconsistent with the ethos of DW DW is pitiless , not sentimental It would be just another way for Vets to lord over newbs another PVP power gap this is my personal opinion COCO Except people tend to get sentimental over things...even rough men living on the shady side of the law. As gritty as DW is... it is conceivable that a ganger, who spends much of his life in car (or several different ones) will take extra care of a favorite vehicle...learn the quirks of a vehicle, tinker with it to get that "little bit extra" out of it...etc...etc. I think the ethos of DW does support the idea, especially as full scale manufacturing of vehicles does not exist within the background story, but rather a constant salvaging of usable parts from other vehicles. Even a "new" vehicle from an autoshop can be considered to actually be merely a collection of used parts that do not have "damage" to the systems or structures...yet. ......................... vet wv Posted Nov 8, 2010, 4:04 am

*Tinker* BibleThumpers Anonymous Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 4,546 Joined: Aug 1, 2008 I'd like to see minor things that make vehicles unique weather they are specs or special prizes, or camp modified specials such as built-in MRP, smoke screens, nitro, bigger engines would be cool if they didn't sacrifice much bulk just a thought ......................... vet marshal wv pvp3 zom circuit2 pvp1 cont Posted Nov 8, 2010, 6:42 pm Last edited Nov 8, 2010, 6:43 pm by *Tinker*

Khornishman Khornates Pedestrian Civs Faction Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: Oct 17, 2010 I'd like to have a veh specialism that allows for a 3rd weapon in a location... ......................... vet wv Posted Nov 8, 2010, 7:31 pm

*Rezeak* The Dark Knights Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Marshals + Storytellers Posts: 2,377 Joined: Aug 8, 2009 Khornishman said: I'd like to have a veh specialism that allows for a 3rd weapon in a location... Far too overpowering IMO. I'd like to see more subtle things such as giving the occupants inside the car a small courage boost, giving the occupants of opposing cars a slight courage decrease. Small boosts to first aid or mechanic skills. Things like that. ......................... vet wv deathrceL1 marshal pvp2 zom pvp3 Posted Nov 8, 2010, 7:49 pm

*Tinker* BibleThumpers Anonymous Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 4,546 Joined: Aug 1, 2008 Khornishman said: I'd like to have a veh specialism that allows for a 3rd weapon in a location... i would like it if it was very minor, i.e medium rocket, or perhaps a dropped weapon ......................... vet marshal wv pvp3 zom circuit2 pvp1 cont Posted Nov 8, 2010, 8:06 pm

FireFly Anarcho-Pumpkin Privateers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 5,468 Joined: Mar 3, 2008 Exposed heavy rockets With the added feature of blowing your car up if they get hit ......................... vet wv zom gateautumn deathrceL1 elmsautumn pvp1 pvp2 sssc raceL1 e2g combatL1 santa1 pvp3 gwextrav ww circuit32,18,0 Posted Nov 8, 2010, 8:45 pm Last edited Nov 8, 2010, 8:45 pm by FireFly

*Wolfsbane* Arbiters Darkwind Guru Badlands Truckstop Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,038 Joined: Oct 9, 2009 Seconded ......................... vet wv marshal pvp2 cont Posted Nov 8, 2010, 9:34 pm

*Grograt* Grograts Gonads Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 8,377 Joined: Oct 5, 2008 *Rezeak* said: Khornishman said: I'd like to have a veh specialism that allows for a 3rd weapon in a location... Far too overpowering IMO. I'd like to see more subtle things such as giving the occupants inside the car a small courage boost, giving the occupants of opposing cars a slight courage decrease. Small boosts to first aid or mechanic skills. Things like that. +1 ......................... vet marshal wv community Posted Nov 8, 2010, 9:50 pm Last edited Nov 8, 2010, 9:50 pm by *Grograt*

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,513 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 Agreed. Theres talk of cursed vehicles above, could they help courage training... "You're not going out in the cursed Apache of doom are you?" *sam* said: simonmaxhill said: I also suggested a totally insane, overblown doll-house feature that would track each character's emotional state and preferences, like "hates rocket enemies" or "is angry at x ganger right now and doesn't want to ride with them."  Strange, semi-arbitrary emotional states of all the gangers would be really... neat. I actually have a system for this sort of thing half-sketched out already. I shelved it at the time due to other priorities. +lots ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,1 Posted Nov 8, 2010, 11:10 pm

*Tinker* BibleThumpers Anonymous Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 4,546 Joined: Aug 1, 2008 Bastiel said: *sam* said: simonmaxhill said: I also suggested a totally insane, overblown doll-house feature that would track each character's emotional state and preferences, like "hates rocket enemies" or "is angry at x ganger right now and doesn't want to ride with them."  Strange, semi-arbitrary emotional states of all the gangers would be really... neat. I actually have a system for this sort of thing half-sketched out already. I shelved it at the time due to other priorities. +lots double + lots ......................... vet marshal wv pvp3 zom circuit2 pvp1 cont Posted Nov 8, 2010, 11:39 pm

Khornishman Khornates Pedestrian Civs Faction Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: Oct 17, 2010 *Rezeak* said: Khornishman said: I'd like to have a veh specialism that allows for a 3rd weapon in a location... Far too overpowering IMO. I'd like to see more subtle things such as giving the occupants inside the car a small courage boost, giving the occupants of opposing cars a slight courage decrease. Small boosts to first aid or mechanic skills. Things like that. Because 2x ATG in a single location is not overpowering? It would be reasonable to expect that a vehicle with 3 weapon spots in a single location would lose some or all weapon spots in other locations. Of course, should weapon mounts be weighted by size, (mg = small mount, HGG = large mount) and such a vehicle have weapon size limitations, then being "overpowered" is scaled down drastically. ......................... vet wv Posted Nov 9, 2010, 12:39 am

Mute Bright Wolves Pedestrian Renegade Group: Members Posts: 24 Joined: Nov 9, 2007 I'm a fan of having certain attributes in the car when built, and gaining fame only reveals those attributes. It adds an element of surprise as well as a layer of engagement. If we're dead-set on making a "gain an attribute" type system, then please make it well hidden. Very well hidden. The level of engagement is lost when a 'bold' car is only a 'bold' car because it's killed X number of enemies. The player doesn't ask "Wow, my I knew that car had some spirit!" and instead just says, " To get this stat boost, I need to do this."  Instead of the player feeling privileged for having a 'bold' car, or wary about having a 'cursed' car, the player is only concerned with a calculation. A "what do I need to do to get this attribute." Thus, the layer of immersion is gone. Anyways, a few suggestions for some attributes for some cars: Strait shooter: A slight accuracy boost. Loose Cannon: A slight accuracy loss, but damage is slightly increased. Jumpy: The car handles as if it where a little lighter than its actual weight. Steadfast: The car handles as if it where a little heavier than its actual weight. ......................... vet wv Posted Jan 3, 2011, 2:50 am

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,513 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 Nicely put. ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,1 Posted Jan 3, 2011, 5:24 am

Zephyr River City Gamblers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Subscribers Posts: 551 Joined: Dec 12, 2009 Mute said: I'm a fan of having certain attributes in the car when built, and gaining fame only reveals those attributes. It adds an element of surprise as well as a layer of engagement. I agree with this.  Isn't this how characters are already?  That is, they are created with hidden talents that we only discover through months of training and developing them?  ......................... vet wv Posted Feb 1, 2011, 8:21 pm

*Rev. V* Cestus Dei Darkwind Guru Civs Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 3,208 Joined: Aug 4, 2010 How are the talents hidden? We pick them at the tavern when they level up.... ......................... vet wv zom marshal paintladder cont Posted Feb 1, 2011, 8:42 pm

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