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The Paranoid Tourist Precipitous Treachery Darkwind Guru Slavers Faction Group: Members Posts: 1,828 Joined: Jan 12, 2007 Mike: There's a large difference between spending a couple of hours a day sorting out camp details and travels to/from camp in that it doesn't have to be done all in one sitting. I might get 30 minutes 4 or more times a day to play in which I could do those things, but the uninterrupted 2-ish hours required for a large battle might be out of the question. I've got a 2 year old daughter. There's no telling when she'll get up from her nap. Any event that I don't have any chance of ending in the very near future is an event that very well might be too long for me. On the other hand, if I finish one quick event and she's still sleeping I might go ahead and start another, knowing again that it won't be long before I'm finished. In short, I reiterate: Requiring all camp battles to be very large simply isolates the vast majority of the community from taking part in this aspect of the game. ......................... vet gateautumn gwextrav raceL1 wv e2g0,2,0 Posted Apr 13, 2009, 2:44 pm Last edited Apr 13, 2009, 2:45 pm by The Paranoid Tourist

Mad Mike the mad mad crushers Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Subscribers Posts: 2,900 Joined: Aug 1, 2007 I agree on that one. there is not very many people who play for large amounts of time. I have heard that the typical raid in WOW can take hours and hours , as high as 8 I've read. I'm not saying the camp raids should take that long but just an example. Then I suppose there could be camp raids for harassment. No real damage to the camp but a few bullet holes just for the chance to say you did a raid. I dont see a 2 or 3 vehicle camp raid really the way it should be. An attack on the camp should be by a large group, not just a few vehicles. To be as close to reality of possible if a player wants to just buzz a camp with limited vehicles then those attacks should be considered on the cargo going back and forth to the camp. A 2 or 3 vehicle attack would have no chance of getting into a camp by the defenses so attacking the supply line would be better for the attacker because they stand a chance to actually GET something instead of circling a camp and shouting nasty words. A camp attack would have to be large. Consider it the same as a league race. Its scheduled and there are many many participants at times PC or NPC. In the future with more people joining DW an all player race is possible. I was lucky enough to be on and there were actually enough PCs on that we made a league race an all PC race. was a blast with 28 league points to the winner. A large group is the only one that could possibly beat camp defenses and raid the camp. so the minimum should be 15 or so. Just would make more sense that a raid on the camp itself would be large. ......................... vet wv Posted Apr 13, 2009, 6:54 pm Last edited Apr 13, 2009, 6:57 pm by Mad Mike

The Paranoid Tourist Precipitous Treachery Darkwind Guru Slavers Faction Group: Members Posts: 1,828 Joined: Jan 12, 2007 Perhaps the damage done to a camp by a raid could be proportional to the number of cars attacking the camp in a nearly exponential relationship. In other words: if 5 cars attack a camp and X damage is done, the amount of damage done by a 10 car attack would be more than X + X, something closer to X * X, but probably not quite to that extreme. That would help both to motivate the attacker to bring more vehicles and to reflect the amount of havoc that could be done by what was attacking. I'll try to stop pontificating, now, until the new system begins and we get a look at how it works. . . ......................... vet gateautumn gwextrav raceL1 wv e2g0,2,0 Posted Apr 13, 2009, 7:06 pm

Joel Autobaun Joels Bastards Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Sinbinned Posts: 4,598 Joined: Nov 10, 2008 Well I put in a bid (actually I bid on Sars and elms camps) - money taken and no camp. Not sure if I get my money back tomorrow, but just saying for now... ......................... vet northernsummer deathrce1 raceL1 deathrceL1 ww ped1 sssc paintball semiprocombat ped2 e2g gwextrav gwped combat1 paintladder elmsautumn gateautumn wv race1 combatL1 pvp1 pvp5 pvp4 zom pvp3 circuit1 pvp2 circuit2 circuit3 ss2fl67 slay2013 storm2013 geek triangle198,96,31 Posted Apr 14, 2009, 1:33 am

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 Quote: Well I put in a bid (actually I bid on Sars and elms camps) - money taken and no camp. The Plateau camp is now in your ownership.. ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Apr 14, 2009, 1:37 am

Mad Mike the mad mad crushers Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Subscribers Posts: 2,900 Joined: Aug 1, 2007 congrats joel. having a camp in sarsfield is going to be fun running cargo back and forth ......................... vet wv Posted Apr 14, 2009, 2:04 am

Joel Autobaun Joels Bastards Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Sinbinned Posts: 4,598 Joined: Nov 10, 2008 Well I hope so - I think i'm in over my head - nothing better to spend money on anyway - except an RGM for 10mill from spanky. ......................... vet northernsummer deathrce1 raceL1 deathrceL1 ww ped1 sssc paintball semiprocombat ped2 e2g gwextrav gwped combat1 paintladder elmsautumn gateautumn wv race1 combatL1 pvp1 pvp5 pvp4 zom pvp3 circuit1 pvp2 circuit2 circuit3 ss2fl67 slay2013 storm2013 geek triangle198,96,31 Posted Apr 14, 2009, 2:42 am

*Longo* Longos Merry Men Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 6,659 Joined: Dec 15, 2007 It will be fun Joel, but Mike is correct in saying that it will be a tough road bringing in supplies. Id be happy to give you some tips which could speed up the process a bit. Your looking at a good month to get anything decnt up and running. -Longo ......................... vet combatL1 ped1 paintladder semiprocombat ped2 wv pvp4 pvp1 gwped paintball pvp3 pvp5 slay2013 marshal circuit2 combat1 e2g raceL1 gwextrav gateautumn pvp2 triangle1 Posted Apr 14, 2009, 2:45 am

*jimmylogan* MADHAT Darkwind Guru Civs Faction Group: Marshals + Rule Council Posts: 5,587 Joined: Jun 11, 2008 Joel - I keep a squad in SF and have been saving all the CPS & EPS I've been looting... Would like to join up with you... ......................... vet marshal deathrceL1 wv community combatL1 Posted Apr 14, 2009, 3:35 am

Joel Autobaun Joels Bastards Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Sinbinned Posts: 4,598 Joined: Nov 10, 2008 Sounds good Jimmy, Thanks guys. Hopefully I can get is halfways decent before the attacks come lol ......................... vet northernsummer deathrce1 raceL1 deathrceL1 ww ped1 sssc paintball semiprocombat ped2 e2g gwextrav gwped combat1 paintladder elmsautumn gateautumn wv race1 combatL1 pvp1 pvp5 pvp4 zom pvp3 circuit1 pvp2 circuit2 circuit3 ss2fl67 slay2013 storm2013 geek triangle198,96,31 Posted Apr 14, 2009, 4:19 am

darthspanky McSPANKYS LOLLIPOP GANSTAS Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Subscribers Posts: 4,006 Joined: Jul 29, 2007 joel i have a few lorrys and rgm buzzers in ssars i could staart loading them with stone and scrap drop them off for ya to start building i could put supplies in camp market for ya to but with a small markup to cover ammo and gas costs. let me know if ya want me to start shipping stuff in. ......................... vet paintball wv1,0,1 Posted Apr 14, 2009, 4:44 pm

Joel Autobaun Joels Bastards Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Sinbinned Posts: 4,598 Joined: Nov 10, 2008 Sure thing - I need all the help I can get. I'm not sure who is at war with who right now, so forgive me if I let in your enemies lol. This Camp is gonna be neutral for as long as possible or hopefully until it is up and running at least. Stone looks like it won't be a problem though - I think the camp can make it (after building a quarry). I gotta read through the wiki on this - i'm a little flat footed, didn't really expect to get one of the camps. ......................... vet northernsummer deathrce1 raceL1 deathrceL1 ww ped1 sssc paintball semiprocombat ped2 e2g gwextrav gwped combat1 paintladder elmsautumn gateautumn wv race1 combatL1 pvp1 pvp5 pvp4 zom pvp3 circuit1 pvp2 circuit2 circuit3 ss2fl67 slay2013 storm2013 geek triangle198,96,31 Posted Apr 14, 2009, 6:25 pm

The Paranoid Tourist Precipitous Treachery Darkwind Guru Slavers Faction Group: Members Posts: 1,828 Joined: Jan 12, 2007 Hey, Joel. Sounds like you were able to get into your camp. Is that right? I'm still locked out of mine. ......................... vet gateautumn gwextrav raceL1 wv e2g0,2,0 Posted Apr 14, 2009, 6:44 pm Last edited Apr 14, 2009, 6:45 pm by The Paranoid Tourist

Joel Autobaun Joels Bastards Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Sinbinned Posts: 4,598 Joined: Nov 10, 2008 Ya, was able to get in as owner. ......................... vet northernsummer deathrce1 raceL1 deathrceL1 ww ped1 sssc paintball semiprocombat ped2 e2g gwextrav gwped combat1 paintladder elmsautumn gateautumn wv race1 combatL1 pvp1 pvp5 pvp4 zom pvp3 circuit1 pvp2 circuit2 circuit3 ss2fl67 slay2013 storm2013 geek triangle198,96,31 Posted Apr 14, 2009, 7:58 pm

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 Should be alright now PT, the problem was when I forgot to set up a member record for you as owner, then you created one as 'request membership'. I added one manually but then you had two, and the older one was the 'request' one so it took precedence. ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Apr 14, 2009, 8:14 pm

The Paranoid Tourist Precipitous Treachery Darkwind Guru Slavers Faction Group: Members Posts: 1,828 Joined: Jan 12, 2007 Thanks, Sam. I was once again glad to have direct access to the developer. You're one in a million. ......................... vet gateautumn gwextrav raceL1 wv e2g0,2,0 Posted Apr 14, 2009, 8:58 pm

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