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*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,781 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 · Moveable steering panel · Slightly reduced height of car manage panel. I will be discussing with desolatordan whether we can squash the whole thing substantially more, as several players have requested. · ?O? now opens/closes the occupants tab (the same as ?M? for the manage tab) · The ?Not Ready? button should now work · ?Cam Follow Car? is back, and ?Auto End? has been relegated to the top menu · added a new Preference: ?Disable Animated GUIs? · I?ve also made it so that left-clicking the body of the manage window closes it . Fixed the problem where projectles were invisible due to moving 100s of times too fast (!) . (Hopefully) fixed the recent problem with cars not moving from the start-grid.. I need to do some tests to validate this (it wouldn?t happen on my test build for some reason) ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Aug 30, 2008, 6:03 pm Last edited Aug 30, 2008, 6:05 pm by *sam*

FineRedMist The Fine Red Misters Sunday Driver Renegade Group: Members Posts: 60 Joined: Aug 18, 2008 Terrific changes. Thanks very much for your dedication to the game and your subscribers. I'll certainly recommend the game to my friends. Randy... ......................... vet Posted Aug 30, 2008, 6:29 pm

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,781 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 No problem, & thanks its always good to get nice feedback ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Aug 30, 2008, 6:30 pm

4saken The 4saken Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 2,282 Joined: Jan 1, 2008 yeah that must have been a bit of work especially to come right on the tail of the last big update. must quicker than i would have expected. :o) ......................... vet combatL1 wv1,0,0 Posted Aug 30, 2008, 8:37 pm

Marrkos 88 MPH Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 3,711 Joined: Mar 28, 2006 *sam* said: ·    Slightly reduced height of car manage panel. I will be discussing with desolatordan whether we can squash the whole thing substantially more, as several players have requested. Possible points of discussion: - Reduce the scale of the entire window.  Not sure if that's what you meant by 'squash the whole thing'. - Entertain the idea of orienting the vehicle horizontally (previous layout), rather then vertically (current layout).  Combined with a reduction of scale, this would free up more of the game window. Thanks for the quick usability tweaks! ......................... vet wv community Posted Aug 30, 2008, 8:45 pm

Valiance The Vanguards Darkwind Guru Civs Faction Group: Storytellers Posts: 1,176 Joined: Jan 15, 2008 OK, finally got to have a look and here are my comments. The GUI itself is cleaner and neater and yet somehow it has managed to make the overall game seem much more overpowering. I was scared at how complicated the game was, and I know what I'm doing. Specific issues: [Moved to4Saken's GUI thread. ......................... vet combat1 wv ped1 northernsummer Posted Aug 30, 2008, 8:55 pm Last edited Aug 31, 2008, 10:09 am by Valiance

Alocalypse Advanced Race Labs Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 2,236 Joined: May 6, 2007 Quote: 6) The manage tab is way too intrusive. I think the size of the armour blocks is too big. I expect that I will grow to love the weapons images, but do they really need to be that big? I love the size of the Inspect box - can we get the manage box down to that size? Or at least nearer to it? The picture of my car is lovely, but it's actually bigger and more dominating than the action, which seems wrong to me It'd be impossible to scale it down to the inspect box size because you need room to display the weapons and not make them too small so they're easy to click on when needed. ......................... vet deathrce1 raceL1 race1 combat1 northernsummer gateautumn elmsautumn deathrceL1 semiprocombat wv cont Posted Aug 30, 2008, 9:22 pm

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,781 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 Quote: yeah that must have been a bit of work especially to come right on the tail of the last big update. must quicker than i would have expected. ) Actually not as much work as fixing the game server crashes and the cars getting stuck on the starting line. Those two things had me pretty stressed (especially as they were stopping me from making these important changes to the new GUI). ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Aug 30, 2008, 10:46 pm

Ivan Kerensky Les Loups Gris Autodueller Civs Faction Group: Members Posts: 419 Joined: Mar 1, 2008 After a bit I am starting to get used and very like the new interface. I still notice the windows is a bit long to open with the animation and it would be nice to have the cargo on the same side than the car. There is no real need to have an extra window for passenger, or if we could have a small list avaliable in the car manage windows to give them the only 2 order we need them ( exit and take the wheel ), we can still open the side slide for info on them. I noticed that the engine HP bar on the moose isn't aligned with the engine pic. ......................... vet wv Posted Sep 2, 2008, 6:16 am

Valiance The Vanguards Darkwind Guru Civs Faction Group: Storytellers Posts: 1,176 Joined: Jan 15, 2008 Comment on characters: I like the personalisation, but as Ivan says, it is not yet entirely necessary. I would suggest some of the following to make it more useful: 1) Give them more options. I would specifically suggest reloading handweapons (I often get out, shoot, then get back in again, but can't reload) and perhaps jettisoning cargo 2) THere appears to be a bug that only 6 characters show up. I had 7 in my carrier van, and the last guy didn't appear, although he did appear in the list of people to assign to the guns 3) There is lots of space underneath, which I imagine is for "stunned", bleeding etc. I would suggest that, since we still have the pop-ups full of information, the characters should be stacked two high, and the critical information (bleeding, stunned) should be shown by icons. In these circumstances, I don't think that it matters if the entire portrait is obscured by icons. 4) I can no longer tell whether a character is sitting on the left or right. This is a big problem for me: I will often decide on whether to exit a ped depending on whether the vehicle is between him and the enemy or not - and I can't tell this any more. ......................... vet combat1 wv ped1 northernsummer Posted Sep 2, 2008, 9:45 am

*jimmylogan* MADHAT Darkwind Guru Civs Faction Group: Marshals + Rule Council Posts: 5,605 Joined: Jun 11, 2008 Valiance said: 4) I can no longer tell whether a character is sitting on the left or right. This is a big problem for me: I will often decide on whether to exit a ped depending on whether the vehicle is between him and the enemy or not - and I can't tell this any more. Gotta 2nd this one Sam... Yesterday I was scouting and decided to hijack a Punisher that the two occupants had fled. I got my box van between a demo'd but still firing car & the Punisher, then exited the gunner I *thought* was on the correct side. He was not hurt, as I was able to get him around and move the van at the same time, but it didn't work as expected. :-) JL ......................... vet marshal deathrceL1 wv community combatL1 Posted Sep 2, 2008, 12:17 pm

Ivan Kerensky Les Loups Gris Autodueller Civs Faction Group: Members Posts: 419 Joined: Mar 1, 2008 BTW, shouldnt Van, Lands, Apache and such vehicule crew be given a choice of wich side to exit ? except the driver and front gunner of course... Did you check if the weapon they are using impact on the side they exit ? ......................... vet wv Posted Sep 2, 2008, 12:39 pm

*jimmylogan* MADHAT Darkwind Guru Civs Faction Group: Marshals + Rule Council Posts: 5,605 Joined: Jun 11, 2008 Ivan Kerensky said: BTW, shouldnt Van, Lands, Apache and such vehicule crew be given a choice of wich side to exit ? except the driver and front gunner of course... Never assumed it before. I thought they were in "seats" and would have to "climb over" to get out on an opposite side. :-) Quote: Did you check if the weapon they are using impact on the side they exit ? Makes no difference. Any person can control any gun. JL ......................... vet marshal deathrceL1 wv community combatL1 Posted Sep 2, 2008, 1:03 pm

Rip van Rental Diesel Dogs Pedestrian Renegade Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: Jun 18, 2008 Have you ever considered making the "Steering Wheel" and th "Speedometer" concentric? In most (Real World) road vehicles, you can see the speedo through the steering wheel, so it should look OK, especially with the latest graphic style which is excellent. It would save some space on the GUI, and as it could be more 'square', it would suit fans of both the horizontal and vertical layout. Is it feasible, or would it make the selection of speed and direction with the mouse pointer too complicated? Cheers. ......................... vet Posted Sep 3, 2008, 4:54 pm

*Lugal* Luna Sea Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 2,246 Joined: Jan 27, 2008 Rip van Rental said: Have you ever considered making the "Steering Wheel" and th "Speedometer" concentric? In most (Real World) road vehicles, you can see the speedo through the steering wheel, so it should look OK, especially with the latest graphic style which is excellent. It would save some space on the GUI, and as it could be more 'square', it would suit fans of both the horizontal and vertical layout. Is it feasible, or would it make the selection of speed and direction with the mouse pointer too complicated? That's so simply clever it's frustrating. The only downside to that could be that it would be easier to miss-click one when you mean the other, but I use the keyboard instead anyway. ......................... vet marshal wv Posted Sep 3, 2008, 5:24 pm

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,781 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 The next patch will actually put the characters back into the main manage GUI, on the car itself. The Occupants tab will be available as away of getting more detail ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Sep 3, 2008, 5:26 pm

*Zothen* Knights Templar Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 841 Joined: Jun 11, 2007 Sorry if its already mentioned (just a short stop) but the manage tab messes up when you hit M while the animation is playing. And its too slow. ......................... vet marshal wv Posted Sep 3, 2008, 5:44 pm

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,781 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 There's a Preference to remove the anim altogether Zothen. But yeah, it should probably speed up even when you are using it. ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Sep 3, 2008, 7:23 pm

*Zothen* Knights Templar Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 841 Joined: Jun 11, 2007 Yes, Sam, ive seen it, but I also like the anims ......................... vet marshal wv Posted Sep 3, 2008, 7:54 pm

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