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Tradeable and/or sellable gangers  27.59% - 8 votes
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(I talked to Sam and he stated this would be a "substantial change that would need to be discussed," and he has considered it in the past.)

With PvP becoming more prevalent, a way to replace losses to a gang through other players would be an interesting option. It would also open up new avenues for gameplay like people training gangers and selling high skill capped gangers.

I know some players have much better training regimens then others for their gangers and crosstraining.

Gangers never stop aging. If you take a month or two break frm the gang your gangers sit around like lazy bums. With this mechanic you could give your gangers to a trusted friend to continue using them while you're away. Might as well get some use out of them!

What do you all think? Any other suggestions or recommendations if this was to be added?
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Posted Jul 7, 2020, 5:43 am
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Pandora's Box
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Posted Jul 7, 2020, 7:10 am
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The only thing I would change about gangers would be to halt ageing in vacation mode. It seriously hampers player return after a long break to find that you have nobody left.
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Posted Jul 7, 2020, 8:22 am
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No...please no ganger trading/selling
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Posted Jul 7, 2020, 10:48 am
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i don't understand why people are against this just saying NO doesn't help the disscusion can people plz tell me why its a bad idea i mean there are people hiring other ppls mechanics for there camp now
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Posted Jul 7, 2020, 11:35 am
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I agree Goat. After talking with others yeah I can see why it's not a great idea. I've recommended to Sam in the past of a cryosleep function for gangers on vacation. Taking a break from the game and coming back to everyone being dead isn't fun. He said he'd continue to take it into consideration.
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Posted Jul 7, 2020, 12:12 pm
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Because training gangers, to me, is the game. Taking that away is unacceptable in my opinion.
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Posted Jul 7, 2020, 12:31 pm
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Nope open to total abuse i already think players run around with multi accounts now people are suggesting said multi accounts could possible just give them selves a star player gang is a no.

So im no on this change.
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Posted Jul 7, 2020, 12:38 pm
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Tez said:
Because training gangers, to me, is the game. Taking that away is unacceptable in my opinion.


that would make you a seller  not a buyer it would be another income stream for you :-p
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Posted Jul 7, 2020, 1:00 pm
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Madbooth said:
Nope  open to total abuse i already think players run around with multi accounts now people are suggesting said multi accounts could possible just give them selves a star player gang is a no.

So im no on this change.


if people are using multi accounts there already braking the rules and there for this is another way to catch them and kick them  for braking the rules
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Posted Jul 7, 2020, 1:01 pm
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imo if we where to put in a ganger selling system it would have to be with in the context of the game slavery is in the game so it would have to be based on that

gangers can be captured in pvp and npc combat and can be sold to slavers and maybe camps can set up slave markets where people can sell of captured gangers to players or FL

ie if you lose to slavers maybe they appear on a local slave market for 1 week before being sold to FL npcs captured in PvE or PVP can be put on the market (they would have to be transported there)

and the to take slaves you would have to have the space to take them home
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Posted Jul 7, 2020, 1:04 pm Last edited Jul 7, 2020, 1:08 pm by Rex-Rillian
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nope again abuse open just lose pvps by purpouse for special ganger gains.... If you are factioned with slavers and you win a PVP intercept and win the players should be given to fire light and you are payed for the Gangers in question by firelight.
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Posted Jul 7, 2020, 1:08 pm
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Madbooth said:
nope again abuse open just lose pvps by purpouse for special ganger gains.... If you are factioned with slavers and you win a PVP intercept and win the players should be given to fire light and you are payed for the Gangers in question by firelight.


every new thing added to the game is open to abuse from multi players m8 every thing  becouse the game as it stands is open to abuse from multi players

the only way to stop that is is to get rid of the multi players
look at the new missions
every new accout can do them and get the rewards whats stopping some one just making new accounts and selling the rewards each time on the market to there main account giving them unlimited hggs  cars and such
theres nothing stopping them doing that now  except getting banned

so being open to abuse by scum rule brakers  is not a good reason not to add new stuff in to the game to improve it

its weather or not the additions will improve game play for the majority that matters
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Posted Jul 7, 2020, 1:14 pm
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i would be more open to a system where gangers you fail to use stand a small but significant chance of deciding to seek new employment. They might also consider this if you run out of money. They could even have a hidden 'loyalty' stat. They then enter the recruitment pool (and are more likely to be picked up by gangs that are prominent in their town).

making it random and out of the control of players would prevent abuse.

obviously this would have to be prevented by vacation mode. A character doing something like being a camp mech would be exempt.
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Posted Jul 7, 2020, 1:53 pm
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*goat starer* said:

making it random and out of the control of players would prevent abuse.


Ironically, making it random and out of the control of players would promote abuse.. towards me !

I don't think ganger tradiing is going to happen, there's too many risks.

Removing aging does seem like something I need to do though, let's say if the player has not logged in for the entire game year. The reason I didn't want to was for realism (plus, I feel strongly about character fragility and 'the human condition' etc.).. however, sometimes gameplay reasons have to trump realism.
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Posted Jul 7, 2020, 2:14 pm Last edited Jul 7, 2020, 2:15 pm by *sam*
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The safest thing to do would be is to have vacation mode freeze all gang activity. Basically a pause button, then player can resume right where they left off.
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Posted Jul 7, 2020, 4:43 pm
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*The X Man* said:
The safest thing to do would be is to have vacation mode freeze all gang activity. Basically a pause button, then player can resume right where they left  off.


Yea, probable the best case to retain players.
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Posted Jul 7, 2020, 5:11 pm
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The no ageing thing is totaly open to abuse =)

I wouldnt mind it means my gang becomes immortal ...sadly my enemys gangers would never die in there sleep =/ (which is the most likely way i see them die)...hurmmm...
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Posted Jul 7, 2020, 5:26 pm
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If no ageing should be injurys Knock down stats if its not death.
Eye and finger = - dex
Legs and toes = - Speed
Arms hands = - Str Ect ect.

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Posted Jul 7, 2020, 5:27 pm Last edited Jul 7, 2020, 5:29 pm by Madbooth
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Madbooth said:
The no ageing thing is totaly open to abuse =)

I wouldnt mind it means my gang becomes immortal ...sadly my enemys gangers would never die in there sleep =/ (which is the most likely way i see them die)...hurmmm...


Could go with a compromise to critics against this by saying you still age, but at a much reduced rate.
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