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darthspanky McSPANKYS LOLLIPOP GANSTAS Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Subscribers Posts: 4,027 Joined: Jul 29, 2007 whats the point of having gangers be allowed to escape, only to try it and it not works, couldnt kill me when i was being bombed by mortars but finally breech and get him, go to escape and nothing works, but instead of saying haha got him, you choose to keep mortaring him after he demo's, glad im not on yout team, and if any of you ever ask for mercy from me you wont get it, i thought there was a rule you join camp war squads your pvp should be turned on? a few dont have pvp on and were in the war squads? ......................... vet paintball wv1,0,2 Posted Jun 14, 2020, 9:08 pm Last edited Jun 14, 2020, 9:19 pm by darthspanky

Joel Autobaun Joels Bastards Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Sinbinned Posts: 4,598 Joined: Nov 10, 2008 Oh no was that ganger pretty good? ......................... vet northernsummer deathrce1 raceL1 deathrceL1 ww ped1 sssc paintball semiprocombat ped2 e2g gwextrav gwped combat1 paintladder elmsautumn gateautumn wv race1 combatL1 pvp1 pvp5 pvp4 zom pvp3 circuit1 pvp2 circuit2 circuit3 ss2fl67 slay2013 storm2013 geek triangle198,99,31 Posted Jun 14, 2020, 9:27 pm

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,908 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 darthspanky said: i thought there was a rule you join camp war squads your pvp should be turned on? a few dont have pvp on and were in the war squads? i don't think it was ever implemented but i do think it would be a very good idea. 1) If you join a camp war squad you become PVP open for a period 2) all squads travelling to a PVP open camp are PVP open. ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted Jun 14, 2020, 9:51 pm

darthspanky McSPANKYS LOLLIPOP GANSTAS Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Subscribers Posts: 4,027 Joined: Jul 29, 2007 last i checked 2 of them had pvp off. ......................... vet paintball wv1,0,2 Posted Jun 15, 2020, 12:21 am

darthspanky McSPANKYS LOLLIPOP GANSTAS Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Subscribers Posts: 4,027 Joined: Jul 29, 2007 Joel Autobaun said: Oh no was that ganger pretty good? thats the diffrence between us joel, he was damm good but i dont hide behind my so called allies, and whine like a bitch when one dies in battle killed when he was helpless,yeah joel your really so good, imscared now, punches the baseball bat guy in the mouth this is gunna get ugly' you always have been a coward and you always will be, you cant win alone, good get your friends together becausse im wiping your bitch ass out of sars. ......................... vet paintball wv1,0,2 Posted Jun 15, 2020, 12:25 am Last edited Jun 15, 2020, 12:26 am by darthspanky

*Longo* Longos Merry Men Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 6,670 Joined: Dec 15, 2007 "I guess I am kind of a big deal now." says Charles 'Wont Die' Young, slayer of James "T" Kirk. ......................... vet combatL1 ped1 paintladder semiprocombat ped2 wv pvp4 pvp1 gwped paintball pvp3 pvp5 slay2013 marshal circuit2 combat1 e2g raceL1 gwextrav gateautumn pvp2 triangle1 Posted Jun 15, 2020, 1:16 am

*The X Man* Better Off Dead Darkwind Guru Slavers Faction Group: Game Manager Posts: 2,215 Joined: Jul 25, 2012 darthspanky said: whats the point of having gangers be allowed to escape, only to try it and it not works I had the same thing happen as well. Good thing mutie skin is partially fire retardant because she cooked for a long time in that ambie. I also mentioned this to Sam during the event and said that this function was put in place for instant ganger removal to avoid casualties. Apparently, the character cannot be incapacitated because it will not work. My understanding was anytime and under any condition, this escape feature would remove your character safely. So this will be brought to Sam's attention for review. After that, we all need to revisit this issue and come to a consensus on the specific conditions that allow the instant escape to work. ......................... vet wv marshal paintladder zom circuit3 paintball raceL1 race1 pvp4 hammer circuit2 pvp2 circuit1 gwped pvp5 pvp3 pvp1 deathrceL1 triangle1 combatL1 elmsautumn combat1 northernsummer1,3,0 Posted Jun 15, 2020, 1:28 am

*Longo* Longos Merry Men Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 6,670 Joined: Dec 15, 2007 *The X Man* said: darthspanky said: whats the point of having gangers be allowed to escape, only to try it and it not works I had the same thing happen as well. Good thing mutie skin is partially fire retardant because she cooked for a long time in that ambie. I also mentioned this to Sam during the event and said that this function was put in place for instant ganger removal to avoid casualties. Apparently, the character cannot be incapacitated because it will not work. My understanding was anytime and under any condition, this escape feature would remove your character safely. So this will be brought to Sam's attention for review. After that, we all need to revisit this issue and come to a consensus on the specific conditions that allow the instant escape to work. This seemed apparent when the Vault battle occurred, but nobody said anything. As for Darth's ganger's death, he had ample time to escape, as his buzzer was breached for quite a while, but he kept driving it and was able to escape, choosing to continue to drive it away in an attempt to save his buzzer. Its a bad decision to not have had him escape turns before his death, and turns before he was incapacitated. Not saying that this should not be corrected down the road, but a "review" of this death is complete BS. ......................... vet combatL1 ped1 paintladder semiprocombat ped2 wv pvp4 pvp1 gwped paintball pvp3 pvp5 slay2013 marshal circuit2 combat1 e2g raceL1 gwextrav gateautumn pvp2 triangle1 Posted Jun 15, 2020, 1:37 am Last edited Jun 15, 2020, 1:45 am by *Longo*

Joel Autobaun Joels Bastards Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Sinbinned Posts: 4,598 Joined: Nov 10, 2008 darthspanky said: Joel Autobaun said: Oh no was that ganger pretty good? thats the diffrence between us joel, he was damm good but i dont hide behind my so called allies, and whine like a bitch when one dies in battle killed when he was helpless,yeah joel your really so good, imscared now, punches the baseball bat guy in the mouth this is gunna get ugly' you always have been a coward and you always will be, you cant win alone, good get your friends together becausse im wiping your bitch ass out of sars. This saddens me  I thought we were going to be great neighbors  You said how nice to be able to beat the #### out of xman in 3-4 rounds  I thought wow this guy is so cool...even if it looks like him an bill are friends too...but then I like bill too, I spared his camp under the old system, just cause he asked me too, that didnt quite workout for me because then you said hey i'm going to kill joels camp with 13000cr and with bill...oh my....i says to myself oh my, then you showed up to defend xman's camp...ohmygawd what is happening...im so hurt and confused...we were both going to go hammer and anvil on the embassy from the southeast...we had such dreams but they were gone in a half an afternoon because longo said the wrong thing i think..you said he said something wrong and now i long for yesterday..when your gang leader still had his head and we were friends ......................... vet northernsummer deathrce1 raceL1 deathrceL1 ww ped1 sssc paintball semiprocombat ped2 e2g gwextrav gwped combat1 paintladder elmsautumn gateautumn wv race1 combatL1 pvp1 pvp5 pvp4 zom pvp3 circuit1 pvp2 circuit2 circuit3 ss2fl67 slay2013 storm2013 geek triangle198,99,31 Posted Jun 15, 2020, 1:41 am Last edited Jun 15, 2020, 3:02 am by Joel Autobaun

*The X Man* Better Off Dead Darkwind Guru Slavers Faction Group: Game Manager Posts: 2,215 Joined: Jul 25, 2012 *sam* said: I think the game is in a pretty good position for pro/anti pvp players at this point. We have a bunch of different types of event, allowing players to go full pvp, limited pvp, or no pvp at all. I don't see a need to force camp war participants to open pvp elsewhere- to me, it's another variation of limited pvp which I hope will suit many players and let them have fun. Forcing them to open pvp in other parts of the game would be pushing many away from this new game mode. I'm looking forward to some awesome and legendary battles happening under this new feature. Two big multiplayer squads trying to outwit each other, tactics playing out through creative vehicle builds. Outflanking, outgunning, outmaneuvering. All with safety mechanisms such as the 201 turn limit and immediate ganger escape. I honestly can't see why everyone isn't excited to try this. *sam* said: The next thing I'm going to do is change the rule that gives a per-player vehicle limit in the Camp Wars squads.  This will be replaced by a per-player CR limit.  Details to follow.. One more thing I will get done before next week is: any character can immediately (on command of their owner, even inside a car) be removed from the combat and put into a footsquad. This is why Longo ......................... vet wv marshal paintladder zom circuit3 paintball raceL1 race1 pvp4 hammer circuit2 pvp2 circuit1 gwped pvp5 pvp3 pvp1 deathrceL1 triangle1 combatL1 elmsautumn combat1 northernsummer1,3,0 Posted Jun 15, 2020, 3:34 am Last edited Jun 15, 2020, 3:49 am by *The X Man*

*Dark Tempest* The Black Legion Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,049 Joined: Jan 27, 2010 Darth had many, many chances to escape his ganger once it became clear no further effective action was possible. ......................... vet wv marshal pvp2 Posted Jun 15, 2020, 3:49 am

*The X Man* Better Off Dead Darkwind Guru Slavers Faction Group: Game Manager Posts: 2,215 Joined: Jul 25, 2012 *Dark Tempest* said: Darth had many, many chances to escape his ganger once it became clear no further effective action was possible. Doesn't matter how many chances he had, but its when he tried, it didn't work. Thats why I posted what sam said about it because it was to be immediate, even while inside the vehicle. ......................... vet wv marshal paintladder zom circuit3 paintball raceL1 race1 pvp4 hammer circuit2 pvp2 circuit1 gwped pvp5 pvp3 pvp1 deathrceL1 triangle1 combatL1 elmsautumn combat1 northernsummer1,3,0 Posted Jun 15, 2020, 3:53 am Last edited Jun 15, 2020, 3:54 am by *The X Man*

*Longo* Longos Merry Men Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 6,670 Joined: Dec 15, 2007 *The X Man* said: *Dark Tempest* said: Darth had many, many chances to escape his ganger once it became clear no further effective action was possible. Doesn't matter how many chances he had, but its when he tried, it didn't work. Thats why I posted what sam said about it because it was to be immediate, even while inside the vehicle. Well then Sam has to give back everyone’s gangers who have died since the camp wars began. I’d also Like all of mine back that have been killed in pvp since I started playing. ......................... vet combatL1 ped1 paintladder semiprocombat ped2 wv pvp4 pvp1 gwped paintball pvp3 pvp5 slay2013 marshal circuit2 combat1 e2g raceL1 gwextrav gateautumn pvp2 triangle1 Posted Jun 15, 2020, 4:44 am

Joel Autobaun Joels Bastards Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Sinbinned Posts: 4,598 Joined: Nov 10, 2008 Well Harry was explaining to us stunned/ko gangers cant escape to us while we were wondering why people are burning to death. It was known(to some??l). So i have been through a few battles like that and the vault and indeed embassy people must have discussed this while before...many turns before darth evem attempted escape. He knew and delayed...turns we could have shot his other buzzer. We all know his guy got.killed for weird darth delaying reasons and nothing else. So now a special exception? After we submitted to cr change(understandable). Other issues we are working through...understandable. This exception though seems very unreasonable because of the delaying darth did and long after the same thing happened to many of you. Kinda a mess. If kirk comes back to life i demand my alliance with spanky be repaired also. ......................... vet northernsummer deathrce1 raceL1 deathrceL1 ww ped1 sssc paintball semiprocombat ped2 e2g gwextrav gwped combat1 paintladder elmsautumn gateautumn wv race1 combatL1 pvp1 pvp5 pvp4 zom pvp3 circuit1 pvp2 circuit2 circuit3 ss2fl67 slay2013 storm2013 geek triangle198,99,31 Posted Jun 15, 2020, 4:47 am Last edited Jun 15, 2020, 4:48 am by Joel Autobaun

*The X Man* Better Off Dead Darkwind Guru Slavers Faction Group: Game Manager Posts: 2,215 Joined: Jul 25, 2012 Joel Autobaun said: Well Harry was explaining to us stunned/ko gangers cant escape to us while we were wondering why people are burning to death.  It was known(to some??l). So i have been through a few battles like that and the vault and indeed embassy people must have discussed this while before...many turns before darth evem attempted escape.  He knew and delayed...turns we could have shot his other buzzer.  We all know his guy got.killed for weird darth delaying reasons and nothing else. So now a special exception? After we submitted to cr change(understandable).  Other issues we are working through...understandable. This exception though seems very unreasonable because of the delaying darth did and long after the same thing happened to many of you. Kinda a mess. If kirk comes back to life i demand my alliance with spanky be repaired also. If this happened first, then escaping would not save him. ......................... vet wv marshal paintladder zom circuit3 paintball raceL1 race1 pvp4 hammer circuit2 pvp2 circuit1 gwped pvp5 pvp3 pvp1 deathrceL1 triangle1 combatL1 elmsautumn combat1 northernsummer1,3,0 Posted Jun 15, 2020, 4:50 am

*The X Man* Better Off Dead Darkwind Guru Slavers Faction Group: Game Manager Posts: 2,215 Joined: Jul 25, 2012 Joel, I think the main issue here was not knowing being incapacitated would not allow you to instantly escape. It was happening to me in the ambie and I brought it to Sam's attention at that time. I was lucky I my ganger survived. But knowing the above, I would have escaped much sooner. We just need clarification for future fights. ......................... vet wv marshal paintladder zom circuit3 paintball raceL1 race1 pvp4 hammer circuit2 pvp2 circuit1 gwped pvp5 pvp3 pvp1 deathrceL1 triangle1 combatL1 elmsautumn combat1 northernsummer1,3,0 Posted Jun 15, 2020, 4:56 am

*Ninesticks* The Wombles Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals + Rule Council Posts: 3,371 Joined: Apr 11, 2008 *The X Man* said: Joel, I think the main issue here was not knowing being incapacitated would not allow you to instantly escape. It was happening to me in the ambie and I brought it to Sam's attention at that time. I was lucky I my ganger survived. But knowing the above, I would have escaped much sooner. We just need clarification for future fights. I had this happen to one of my characters in the first PvP event (and no I don't want her back). I thought this was intentional but having seen Sam's quote and listening to Sam last night not being able to escape due to ko/incap was an unintended consequence of how the escape code was implemented. If people tried to escape their crew and couldn't because of an unintended logic in the coding then this should be reversed if people request it. Any other result would be contrary to the intention of this 'rule' and harmful to participation while all the code gets settled in and any wrinkles ironed out. ......................... vet wv marshal pvp4 community pvp20,1,0 Posted Jun 15, 2020, 5:05 am Last edited Jun 15, 2020, 5:06 am by *Ninesticks*

*Longo* Longos Merry Men Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 6,670 Joined: Dec 15, 2007 *Ninesticks* said: *The X Man* said: Joel, I think the main issue here was not knowing being incapacitated would not allow you to instantly escape. It was happening to me in the ambie and I brought it to Sam's attention at that time. I was lucky I my ganger survived. But knowing the above, I would have escaped much sooner. We just need clarification for future fights. I had this happen to one of my characters in the first PvP event (and no I don't want her back). I thought this was intentional but having seen Sam's quote and listening to Sam last night not being able to escape due to ko/incap was an unintended consequence of how the escape code was implemented. If people tried to escape their crew and couldn't because of an unintended logic in the coding then this should be reversed if people request it. Any other result would be contrary to the intention of this 'rule' and harmful to participation while all the code gets settled in and any wrinkles ironed out. Darth could have demoed his last buzzer at the end and his gang leader would have been saved. ......................... vet combatL1 ped1 paintladder semiprocombat ped2 wv pvp4 pvp1 gwped paintball pvp3 pvp5 slay2013 marshal circuit2 combat1 e2g raceL1 gwextrav gateautumn pvp2 triangle1 Posted Jun 15, 2020, 5:59 am

*Ninesticks* The Wombles Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals + Rule Council Posts: 3,371 Joined: Apr 11, 2008 The question isn't what else he could have done in fairness Longo - it is whether the escape system worked as Sam intended. There are lots of other things he could have done but that isn't relevant. If he should have been able to click the character and escape and that wasn't available having being informed it should have been that pretty much settles the matter from my point of view. Nobody can tell what he was thinking and doing at his keyboard - that is pretty much a pointless avenue of discussion. If he couldn't do what he should have been able to do then logically and morally he is entitled to the benefit then he should receive the benefit of the doubt. Let me be clear just in case anyone is in doubt, I would be arguing this point no matter who it had happened to or what team they are on - it is simply fair and reasonable. ......................... vet wv marshal pvp4 community pvp20,1,0 Posted Jun 15, 2020, 7:39 am

Valiance The Vanguards Darkwind Guru Civs Faction Group: Storytellers Posts: 1,176 Joined: Jan 15, 2008 It is amazing, as an outsider, how much PvP does not look like fun. :-) ......................... vet combat1 wv ped1 northernsummer Posted Jun 15, 2020, 8:14 am

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