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Must have gang member for 24 hours

Mad Mike the mad mad crushers Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Subscribers Posts: 2,900 Joined: Aug 1, 2007 I'm calling BS on this If I hire a ganger and they lie is I'm looking for a mechanical and they are a cyclist,. I should be able to fire them Otherwise they commit suicide in a race by driving the wrong way and crash head on or jump from a car going 100 mph ......................... vet wv Posted Jul 22, 2016, 2:43 am

Super Fluke Kaytis Killers Sunday Driver Renegade Group: Members Posts: 79 Joined: Aug 31, 2014 It's a way from keeping us from hiring a "perfect ganger" or some crap. From what I'm told we don't need pointless ganger deaths either. Well, this isn't a good way for that to happen now is it. I agree, this system should be completely thrown out. ......................... vet wv Posted Jul 22, 2016, 2:37 pm

Mad Mike the mad mad crushers Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Subscribers Posts: 2,900 Joined: Aug 1, 2007 it doesnt make sense. there is no union that says we have to keep them on payroll for a specific period of time it doesnt stop anything but from liking this game. we now have to wait a day before firing a ganger because if they dont have the stats i want im going to fire them anyway so a new player that doesnt like the stats of the gang member they are given and cant just change them out for a day will simply go away and not come back ......................... vet wv Posted Jul 22, 2016, 3:41 pm

*Brunwulf* Wulf Guard Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 1,299 Joined: May 17, 2012 I agree that 24 hours is a bit silly, however it should be a certain length of time- maybe 5 hours is a sensible time we could put forward? SAM will never reduce it to nothing- cos the reason it was changed in the first place was that players were complaining that they couldn't afford $1000 a pop to hire and fire new gangers over and over again in one sitting- but the rich vets could- giving them the ability to get all the 'super noobs' that come up from time to time. I used to do it myself- hire and fire over and over again, sometimes for an hour or more- but 120k+ was money well spent to eventually bag a 30 skill new ganger. ......................... vet ww wv e2g gwextrav sssc northernsummer gateautumn deathrce1 marshal race1 raceL1 combat1 pvp5 pvp4 pvp3 pvp20,1,0 Posted Jul 22, 2016, 4:48 pm

*Brunwulf* Wulf Guard Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 1,299 Joined: May 17, 2012 Mad Mike said: or jump from a car going 100 mph I've never actually tried this! I will defo try it tonight with my latest 'lame hire' ganger- thanks for the tip- should be funny to watch! ......................... vet ww wv e2g gwextrav sssc northernsummer gateautumn deathrce1 marshal race1 raceL1 combat1 pvp5 pvp4 pvp3 pvp20,1,0 Posted Jul 22, 2016, 5:02 pm

*The X Man* Better Off Dead Darkwind Guru Slavers Faction Group: Game Manager Posts: 2,207 Joined: Jul 25, 2012 What everyone needs to understand is not every new hire that "lied" or doesn't have the stats you want make them worthless. I hired a 15 hand gunner with below average Str (21) in Morgan. I sucked it up and trained him. He did lose his Dex pretty fast and it dropped to (1) after a few months. Two weeks ago, he finally capped at 302! "Ain't No" Angel Morgan is his name if you guys wish to check. Str, Spd and Dex are important, but not critical. You may not like those stats either, but they still have the ability to contribute and be effective in any event they are in. ::Points to the above paragraph:: The only time anyone should ever complain is when they cap low (70-80s). But even then, those guys can have a purpose. At least give them the chance to prove they are worthy by fighting in combat. They will either train up into a good ganger or they will at least die with a little dignity and honor. ......................... vet wv marshal paintladder zom circuit3 paintball raceL1 race1 pvp4 hammer circuit2 pvp2 circuit1 gwped pvp5 pvp3 pvp1 deathrceL1 triangle1 combatL1 elmsautumn combat1 northernsummer1,3,0 Posted Jul 22, 2016, 5:59 pm

Super Fluke Kaytis Killers Sunday Driver Renegade Group: Members Posts: 79 Joined: Aug 31, 2014 *The X Man* said: What everyone needs to understand is not every new hire that "lied" or doesn't have the stats you want make them worthless. I hired a 15 hand gunner with below average Str (21) in Morgan. I sucked it up and trained him. He did lose his Dex pretty fast and it dropped to (1) after a few months. Two weeks ago, he finally capped at 302! "Ain't No" Angel Morgan is his name if you guys wish to check. Str, Spd and Dex are important, but not critical. You may not like those stats either, but they still have the ability to contribute and be effective in any event they are in. ::Points to the above paragraph:: The only time anyone should ever complain is when they cap low (70-80s). But even then, those guys can have a purpose. At least give them the chance to prove they are worthy by fighting in combat. They will either train up into a good ganger or they will at least die with a little dignity and honor. I could personally care less about what a ganger's starting skill is at, or what it is in. When I hire a ganger, I start training them in what I want them to do. Simple. What I do not like however, is hiring someone's abandoned ganger who's aging and is of no use, gangers who have 30 in all skills or less (THIS HAS HAPPENED NUMEROUS TIMES, I CANNOT USE THESE PEOPLE), and humans. ......................... vet wv Posted Jul 23, 2016, 3:29 am

*The X Man* Better Off Dead Darkwind Guru Slavers Faction Group: Game Manager Posts: 2,207 Joined: Jul 25, 2012 Super Fluke said: *The X Man* said: What everyone needs to understand is not every new hire that "lied" or doesn't have the stats you want make them worthless. I hired a 15 hand gunner with below average Str (21) in Morgan. I sucked it up and trained him. He did lose his Dex pretty fast and it dropped to (1) after a few months. Two weeks ago, he finally capped at 302! "Ain't No" Angel Morgan is his name if you guys wish to check. Str, Spd and Dex are important, but not critical. You may not like those stats either, but they still have the ability to contribute and be effective in any event they are in. ::Points to the above paragraph:: The only time anyone should ever complain is when they cap low (70-80s). But even then, those guys can have a purpose. At least give them the chance to prove they are worthy by fighting in combat. They will either train up into a good ganger or they will at least die with a little dignity and honor. I could personally care less about what a ganger's starting skill is at, or what it is in. When I hire a ganger, I start training them in what I want them to do. Simple. What I do not like however, is hiring someone's abandoned ganger who's aging and is of no use, gangers who have 30 in all skills or less (THIS HAS HAPPENED NUMEROUS TIMES, I CANNOT USE THESE PEOPLE), and humans. Stop selecting "best available" and you won't end up hiring someone else's riff raff. Hire skill specific and you will get a fresh new recruit to taint at your leisure. ......................... vet wv marshal paintladder zom circuit3 paintball raceL1 race1 pvp4 hammer circuit2 pvp2 circuit1 gwped pvp5 pvp3 pvp1 deathrceL1 triangle1 combatL1 elmsautumn combat1 northernsummer1,3,0 Posted Jul 23, 2016, 7:51 am Last edited Jul 23, 2016, 7:53 am by *The X Man*

Mad Mike the mad mad crushers Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Subscribers Posts: 2,900 Joined: Aug 1, 2007 speed is probably the most important stat load speed means firing last and reloading slow I dont pay attention to the skills, im more interested in the str, dex, speed, etc... skill level can increase over time i think a ever increasing cost to hire a new ganger would discourage the hire and fire and hire and fire looking for new better stats 1000, 2000, 4000, 8000, 16000 etc.. just double the cost ill practice killing some new gangers to see the best way ......................... vet wv Posted Jul 25, 2016, 8:06 pm

Gorde Traction Action Autodueller Renegade Group: Members Posts: 396 Joined: Dec 4, 2010 Of course, the most optimal way to discourage speed hiring might be to actually implement the rumor that was going around when I was first starting out in 2011: to make free hires noticeably better than a paid hire (since they only come around every 5 days, and everyone can afford free). I've done extensive tracking over the years, and I have seen no difference in either stats or cap of free hires (I tracked them by adding a "FH" to their tag). So how about this: any ganger hire that's free gets a +10% to any rolled stat and cap (assuming they didn't roll the maximum allowed). This gives them a better chance to not suck, which might actually help new players more (that's okay, since the new players will just get them killed anyway, heh). Implementation-wise, I'd hope this would be as simple as tweaking the formula that rolls new gangers, so would be something sam might consider worth his time. Design-wise, this would be much more the carrot-type incentive than the stick. (A specific point to X's comments: Man, you put it nicely, trying to make the most of a terrible mechanic, but forcing a player to keep a ganger they don't like is just bad voodoo, and anyone with good perspective/common sense can see this.) ......................... vet wv pvp5 pvp4 pvp3 pvp2 paintball Posted Jul 26, 2016, 12:57 am Last edited Jul 26, 2016, 1:02 am by Gorde

Iron Wraith Iron Wraiths Darkwind Guru Civs Faction Group: Members Posts: 818 Joined: Feb 2, 2009 We keep them all. That is why all my gangers are pish ......................... vet wv raceL1 deathrceL1 Posted Jul 26, 2016, 10:15 pm

HexGrid GrindHouse Sunday Driver Mutants Faction Group: Members Posts: 78 Joined: Aug 23, 2014 Its just plain retarded. No point in saying anything constructive cause sam could care less. ......................... vet wv race1 pvp4 pvp1 paintball deathrce1 circuit3 Posted Jul 31, 2016, 6:46 pm

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