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Prize and Production Boost rise

JoniBoy Parents Association Racer Renegade Group: Members Posts: 154 Joined: Jun 25, 2013 I have noticed a prize and production boost rise in SCL div I: Last season first prize was 2.4mil and production boost was 20%, this season is 3mill and 25%. Is there a reason for that or is just a random number for every season? ......................... vet wv sssc circuit3 raceL1 circuit1 circuit2 combatL1 pvp3 pvp2 pvp5 pvp1 e2g deathrceL1 Posted Jul 10, 2016, 2:28 pm

*Tango* 2ManyRads CI Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,543 Joined: Mar 21, 2010 Are there more players than NPC this year as opposed to last year? ......................... marshal vet wv pvp5 pvp4 combat1 pvp3 zom community Posted Jul 10, 2016, 6:30 pm

JoniBoy Parents Association Racer Renegade Group: Members Posts: 154 Joined: Jun 25, 2013 Oh, that would make sense. ......................... vet wv sssc circuit3 raceL1 circuit1 circuit2 combatL1 pvp3 pvp2 pvp5 pvp1 e2g deathrceL1 Posted Jul 10, 2016, 6:52 pm

*The X Man* Better Off Dead Darkwind Guru Slavers Faction Group: Game Manager Posts: 2,207 Joined: Jul 25, 2012 *Tango* said: Are there more players than NPC this year as opposed to last year? That is exactly it. The default prize pool is based off of 10 human players. Each season, the NPC gangs will go up or down in Division based on their final standings just like human players and affect the prize pool. Prizes are reduced by 5 percent for each player-owned team less than 10 that compete in the division. For example, 8 player-owned teams would mean 90 percent prizes. After the league has actually started, the prizes that are displayed have been reduced where necessary to reflect this. This season, Division 3 is the worst with 5 NPC gangs competing. This is also one reason I try to promote SCL signups and offer to pay first time players $50K entry fee. Once we have enough players active in SCL, these prize pools will be at maximum. ......................... vet wv marshal paintladder zom circuit3 paintball raceL1 race1 pvp4 hammer circuit2 pvp2 circuit1 gwped pvp5 pvp3 pvp1 deathrceL1 triangle1 combatL1 elmsautumn combat1 northernsummer1,3,0 Posted Jul 10, 2016, 9:55 pm

JoniBoy Parents Association Racer Renegade Group: Members Posts: 154 Joined: Jun 25, 2013 *The X Man* said: This is also one reason I try to promote SCL signups and offer to pay first time players $50K entry fee. Once we have enough players active in SCL, these prize pools will be at maximum. Does this mean you owe me 50k from the season I joined? ......................... vet wv sssc circuit3 raceL1 circuit1 circuit2 combatL1 pvp3 pvp2 pvp5 pvp1 e2g deathrceL1 Posted Jul 10, 2016, 10:23 pm

*Brunwulf* Wulf Guard Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 1,299 Joined: May 17, 2012 JoniBoy said: *The X Man* said: This is also one reason I try to promote SCL signups and offer to pay first time players $50K entry fee. Once we have enough players active in SCL, these prize pools will be at maximum. Does this mean you owe me 50k from the season I joined? Why are players allowed to compete in all the leagues? Joniboy has all the SCL badges, won SCL1 last season, and has now entered a team in SCL5!!!!! This is ridiculous, and will not help newbies get involved in PVP leagues- it's just silly ......................... vet ww wv e2g gwextrav sssc northernsummer gateautumn deathrce1 marshal race1 raceL1 combat1 pvp5 pvp4 pvp3 pvp20,1,0 Posted Jul 10, 2016, 11:06 pm

JoniBoy Parents Association Racer Renegade Group: Members Posts: 154 Joined: Jun 25, 2013 *Brunwulf* said: JoniBoy said: *The X Man* said: This is also one reason I try to promote SCL signups and offer to pay first time players $50K entry fee. Once we have enough players active in SCL, these prize pools will be at maximum. Does this mean you owe me 50k from the season I joined? Why are players allowed to compete in all the leagues? Joniboy has all the SCL badges, won SCL1 last season, and has now entered a team in SCL5!!!!! This is ridiculous, and will not help newbies get involved in PVP leagues- it's just silly I agree to that, the team I join in can use my guys, and I have crosstrained characters that new players can't have. Hence is not fair. Moreover, another problem comes when those teams that represent the same camp end up in the same league and can rig the fights. If you propose to change that, I would vote yes ......................... vet wv sssc circuit3 raceL1 circuit1 circuit2 combatL1 pvp3 pvp2 pvp5 pvp1 e2g deathrceL1 Posted Jul 10, 2016, 11:32 pm

*Brunwulf* Wulf Guard Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 1,299 Joined: May 17, 2012 JoniBoy said: *Brunwulf* said: JoniBoy said: *The X Man* said: This is also one reason I try to promote SCL signups and offer to pay first time players $50K entry fee. Once we have enough players active in SCL, these prize pools will be at maximum. Does this mean you owe me 50k from the season I joined? Why are players allowed to compete in all the leagues? Joniboy has all the SCL badges, won SCL1 last season, and has now entered a team in SCL5!!!!! This is ridiculous, and will not help newbies get involved in PVP leagues- it's just silly I agree to that, the team I join in can use my guys, and I have crosstrained characters that new players can't have. Hence is not fair. Moreover, another problem comes when those teams that represent the same camp end up in the same league and can rig the fights. If you propose to change that, I would vote yes WOW! That's very decent of you to say Joniboy- I was kind of expecting you to take offence at me bringing up your name when you are doing absolutely nothing wrong within the rules and criteria of the SCL events- so much respect! I would propose to change it though, as it does seem a bit silly. Some might say that I am saying this for my own ends- which I cannot deny. I am an experienced vet and have cross trained gangers to enter SCL5 this season. However, should I get promoted, I will be only entering SCL4 next season. If I get relegated, I will start again. I truly believe this is the way the leagues should work. ......................... vet ww wv e2g gwextrav sssc northernsummer gateautumn deathrce1 marshal race1 raceL1 combat1 pvp5 pvp4 pvp3 pvp20,1,0 Posted Jul 10, 2016, 11:57 pm

*The X Man* Better Off Dead Darkwind Guru Slavers Faction Group: Game Manager Posts: 2,207 Joined: Jul 25, 2012 *Brunwulf* said: JoniBoy said: *The X Man* said: This is also one reason I try to promote SCL signups and offer to pay first time players $50K entry fee. Once we have enough players active in SCL, these prize pools will be at maximum. Does this mean you owe me 50k from the season I joined? Why are players allowed to compete in all the leagues? Joniboy has all the SCL badges, won SCL1 last season, and has now entered a team in SCL5!!!!! This is ridiculous, and will not help newbies get involved in PVP leagues- it's just silly All players have the availability to to play in every Division, but they can only be a team leader once. This encourages team play for the groups that want to represent their camps. The player base and those who participate in PVP type leagues is too small to restrict player to one team only. If this was implemented, it would at least double the amount of NPCs teams in SCL which most players dislike having in their Divisions. SCL is not a newbie player league. It is camp driven league with big benefits. With that being said, you can understand why its roster is full of veteran players. This past season had quite a few new players join Division 5 and 3 of those 5 new players finished in the top 5. The ones who played solo didnt fair as well, but still played respectable non the less. Division 5 isn't always about cross trained vet gangers. Tactics and strategy play a much bigger role in the lower Divisions which can even out ganger skills. New players who join up with vets have a good chance of hanging around for the next season or longer when they have someone teaching and making them better players/team mates. Bottom line to all this is new players get involved when vets offer the help, especially since this is a PVP league. I don't think any changes are really necessary in SCL until we get more players joining. Until then, I would encourage all SCL Division 5 team leaders get a new player to join their team. That may not seem like much, but it would be a good start. ......................... vet wv marshal paintladder zom circuit3 paintball raceL1 race1 pvp4 hammer circuit2 pvp2 circuit1 gwped pvp5 pvp3 pvp1 deathrceL1 triangle1 combatL1 elmsautumn combat1 northernsummer1,3,0 Posted Jul 11, 2016, 12:04 am Last edited Jul 11, 2016, 12:05 am by *The X Man*

JoniBoy Parents Association Racer Renegade Group: Members Posts: 154 Joined: Jun 25, 2013 *Brunwulf* said: JoniBoy said: *Brunwulf* said: JoniBoy said: *The X Man* said: This is also one reason I try to promote SCL signups and offer to pay first time players $50K entry fee. Once we have enough players active in SCL, these prize pools will be at maximum. Does this mean you owe me 50k from the season I joined? Why are players allowed to compete in all the leagues? Joniboy has all the SCL badges, won SCL1 last season, and has now entered a team in SCL5!!!!! This is ridiculous, and will not help newbies get involved in PVP leagues- it's just silly I agree to that, the team I join in can use my guys, and I have crosstrained characters that new players can't have. Hence is not fair. Moreover, another problem comes when those teams that represent the same camp end up in the same league and can rig the fights. If you propose to change that, I would vote yes WOW! That's very decent of you to say Joniboy- I was kind of expecting you to take offence at me bringing up your name when you are doing absolutely nothing wrong within the rules and criteria of the SCL events- so much respect! I would propose to change it though, as it does seem a bit silly. Some might say that I am saying this for my own ends- which I cannot deny. I am an experienced vet and have cross trained gangers to enter SCL5 this season. However, should I get promoted, I will be only entering SCL4 next season. If I get relegated, I will start again. I truly believe this is the way the leagues should work. I take no offense precisely because I am doing nothing wrong, I play the way I have seen people play within the rules and criteria of the leagues. That does not mean I agree to the rules, I would change so many. ......................... vet wv sssc circuit3 raceL1 circuit1 circuit2 combatL1 pvp3 pvp2 pvp5 pvp1 e2g deathrceL1 Posted Jul 11, 2016, 12:05 am

*The X Man* Better Off Dead Darkwind Guru Slavers Faction Group: Game Manager Posts: 2,207 Joined: Jul 25, 2012 JoniBoy said: I take no offense precisely because I am doing nothing wrong, I play the way I have seen people play within the rules and criteria of the leagues. That does not mean I agree to the rules, I would change so many. This is the best place to discuss rules and proposals. This way you will be able to hear from other players POVs to get a better understanding. So if you have a suggestion, toss it out here. ......................... vet wv marshal paintladder zom circuit3 paintball raceL1 race1 pvp4 hammer circuit2 pvp2 circuit1 gwped pvp5 pvp3 pvp1 deathrceL1 triangle1 combatL1 elmsautumn combat1 northernsummer1,3,0 Posted Jul 11, 2016, 12:10 am

JoniBoy Parents Association Racer Renegade Group: Members Posts: 154 Joined: Jun 25, 2013 *The X Man* said: JoniBoy said: I take no offense precisely because I am doing nothing wrong, I play the way I have seen people play within the rules and criteria of the leagues. That does not mean I agree to the rules, I would change so many. This is the best place to discuss rules and proposals. This way you will be able to hear from other players POVs to get a better understanding. So if you have a suggestion, toss it out here. I have read so many good suggestions, I have given my opinion so many times and I have seen no change. I have understood that this game is to play "as is" and it is a waste of time to suggest changes. Still, it is a good game. ......................... vet wv sssc circuit3 raceL1 circuit1 circuit2 combatL1 pvp3 pvp2 pvp5 pvp1 e2g deathrceL1 Posted Jul 11, 2016, 12:28 am

*The X Man* Better Off Dead Darkwind Guru Slavers Faction Group: Game Manager Posts: 2,207 Joined: Jul 25, 2012 JoniBoy said: *The X Man* said: JoniBoy said: I take no offense precisely because I am doing nothing wrong, I play the way I have seen people play within the rules and criteria of the leagues. That does not mean I agree to the rules, I would change so many. This is the best place to discuss rules and proposals. This way you will be able to hear from other players POVs to get a better understanding. So if you have a suggestion, toss it out here. I have read so many good suggestions, I have given my opinion so many times and I have seen no change. I have understood that this game is to play "as is" and it is a waste of time to suggest changes. Still, it is a good game. Being told the game is 'as is' and knowing the game is 'as is' are two different things. I have had Sam help with some changes as recent as this morning. Just because you don't see it, doesn't mean it doesn't happen. ......................... vet wv marshal paintladder zom circuit3 paintball raceL1 race1 pvp4 hammer circuit2 pvp2 circuit1 gwped pvp5 pvp3 pvp1 deathrceL1 triangle1 combatL1 elmsautumn combat1 northernsummer1,3,0 Posted Jul 11, 2016, 2:11 am

DirkNotSoGently Holistic Detective Agency Autodueller Civs Faction Group: Members Posts: 261 Joined: Nov 11, 2011 While I understand it would entail additional effort, perhaps a periodic note on the forums or elsewhere of key updates/changes/improvements would go some way to removing that perception? I know there's the patch notes forum - but a quick check of how infrequently that is updated tells a story in itself. ......................... vet wv deathrce1 pvp5 pvp1 pvp2 circuit3 circuit2 Posted Jul 11, 2016, 10:18 am Last edited Jul 11, 2016, 11:00 am by DirkNotSoGently

*The X Man* Better Off Dead Darkwind Guru Slavers Faction Group: Game Manager Posts: 2,207 Joined: Jul 25, 2012 DirkNotSoGently said: While I understand it would entail additional effort, perhaps a periodic note on the forums or elsewhere of key updates/changes/improvements would go some way to removing that perception? I know there's the patch notes forum - but a quick check of how infrequently that is updated tells a story in itself. Important Announcements and Game Announcements are the top two forums on the board. Sam usually posts there when there are significant and/or global changes to DW. Minor changes and tweaks usually do not end up being posted. I will check to see if we can do anything else to keep as much info available to everyone. ......................... vet wv marshal paintladder zom circuit3 paintball raceL1 race1 pvp4 hammer circuit2 pvp2 circuit1 gwped pvp5 pvp3 pvp1 deathrceL1 triangle1 combatL1 elmsautumn combat1 northernsummer1,3,0 Posted Jul 11, 2016, 5:04 pm

*Brunwulf* Wulf Guard Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 1,299 Joined: May 17, 2012 That would be a good idea- letting the playerbase know that things are always being looked at, and tweaked by you and SAM - can only be a plus. ......................... vet ww wv e2g gwextrav sssc northernsummer gateautumn deathrce1 marshal race1 raceL1 combat1 pvp5 pvp4 pvp3 pvp20,1,0 Posted Jul 11, 2016, 5:09 pm

JoniBoy Parents Association Racer Renegade Group: Members Posts: 154 Joined: Jun 25, 2013 Prize has gone down back to 2.55mil and 21% boost. Any reason? ......................... vet wv sssc circuit3 raceL1 circuit1 circuit2 combatL1 pvp3 pvp2 pvp5 pvp1 e2g deathrceL1 Posted Aug 8, 2016, 12:32 am

*The X Man* Better Off Dead Darkwind Guru Slavers Faction Group: Game Manager Posts: 2,207 Joined: Jul 25, 2012 Prize fund doesn't change during the season. Prize fund in Division 1 is higher than it was last season and thats because there are more human teams this season. All prize funds during preseason are based as if 10 human teams were playing. Once season starts, prize fund is lowered if there are NPCs in the Division. ......................... vet wv marshal paintladder zom circuit3 paintball raceL1 race1 pvp4 hammer circuit2 pvp2 circuit1 gwped pvp5 pvp3 pvp1 deathrceL1 triangle1 combatL1 elmsautumn combat1 northernsummer1,3,0 Posted Aug 8, 2016, 2:51 am

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