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UN-resigning in Deathraces, (a game feature I was not aware of)
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So - last night's Gateway Winter Meltdown was a hoot and a half, lots of action, great fun and everyone playing pretty gentlemanly

I specifically noticed a goodly number of player resignations immediately respected by all

However, imagine my surprise when I checked the League board this morning and found that a resigned player had somehow managed to finish and gain some league points

It appears the player in question was able to lie doggo with their car resigned until the shooting had largely died down and many players had finished and left the event - at which point they 'un-resigned' and limped home to collect some thoroughly undeserved league points

Having reviewed the recording think I see how this was achieved

So - two courses of action remain

1. This is declared an exploit. In which case it's future use is verboten to all and punishments are meeted out as required.

2. This is working as designed. In which case I disseminate the method to all and we can expect redding of players to become the norm in league deathraces to prevent this sort of under-handed tactic

Of course - now that I've mentioned the subject I'm sure others will see how it's done - so the damage may already be out there - hey, ho
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Posted Jan 17, 2016, 10:06 am Last edited Jan 17, 2016, 10:13 am by DirkNotSoGently
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Interesting

Checking the wiki shows this is 'working as designed' - but still a sneaky little trick to pull

Here's the link: http://www.darkwindwiki.com/index.php?title=Pedestrians

And the relevant section reads

' When you commandeer a car, if your character is not freaked out (i.e. has not failed a stress test), then the car unresigns. This only works if the car didn’t start the event under your control (so you can’t resign a car then jump out and back in to unresign it) '

So for future reference if you are doing abysmally in a League DR just resign near some already resigned AI and once things quiet down, nab a car and see if you can score some points

Let the killing commence!
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Posted Jan 17, 2016, 12:31 pm
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B)

I've seen this happen in a COE III race, where a player wrecked his engine and so got out of his car and started running after the pack.

Another player set his car on fire, bugged out and escape his driver. The fire went out and the on-foot ganger got in the resigned car and off he went ;-)

Finished the event too if I remember rightly
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Posted Jan 17, 2016, 1:00 pm
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See *that* took a big pair and deserves some respect

Last night's escapade - not so much
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Posted Jan 17, 2016, 1:12 pm
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Racing Robbie said:
B)

I've seen this happen in a COE III race, where a player wrecked his engine and so got out of his car and started running after the pack.

Another player set his car on fire, bugged out and escape his driver. The fire went out and the on-foot ganger got in the resigned car and off he went ;-)

Finished the event too if I remember rightly


I think that might have been me Robbie in a VERY funny moment when 3 players followed each other over a cliff edge! The cars were Bullits, my car died but my ganger was alive so I ran over to Sarge's car, and finished the race. I don't think I got the points for it though- can't remember, it was a couple of years ago.

I have also seen it done many times.

HOWEVER, A WORD OF WARNING.....

Etiquette dictates that resigned players are shown mercy, but the second your ganger steps out of a vehicle, you are 'ped fodder' and rightly so, as your ganger may be armed, and you are then deemed to be continuing a DEATH race event.
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Posted Jan 17, 2016, 3:11 pm Last edited Jan 17, 2016, 3:23 pm by *Brunwulf*
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Funny things can happen with this:


1. If you exit your vehicle your car IS "resigned" (i think this is a bug actually). If all cars active - finish the race. Race immediately ends. I lost 3rd place in coeII this year to this , I deserved it I forgot it happens. I was out the the car trying to un-turtle it. Make sure to get back in the car before all racers finish.

2. That probably made up for when I did exactly what robbie described in coe. This is hard to do in COE because resigned cars disappear after opponents are like 150m ahead of them. Also coe players have gunners than can easily shoot peds.

3. If you resign in an arena combat and do this, take care to not pickup two cars, your points are AVERAGED between the two!

4. The problem with this system is NOT that it can happen(particularly in non EAA events), its when you go to shoot the ped, your REPUTATIONS ARE ABSOLUTELY ANNIHILATED. For Some reason, Sam refuses to see this as a bug. Now I shot at *Snipe*s ped yesterday and its seems he might have fixed this...

5. I shot Xmen and made him resign, he went from like 5th place to 7th. I did know he probably wasn't done racing persay, however it was last lap and he was certainly screwed enough I didn't need to keep shooting and slow myself down. Also there is the grudge factor. Also I didn't watch him finish but I assume he killed off at least one NPC. npc points matter in this one since I can probably only make two of the races, because for some stupid reason we run these leagues at godawful times.


I can see the point that it makes an already messy "race" messier. My feeling is, it makes a deathrace ...deathy..er?

Perhaps in EAA DR/RACE you step out and are instantly escaped, no running around. I don't like that, but if more players want that, meh.

I have fought wars in the Gateway League (when like 6-7 of us did every league then). Grenades thrown of bridges, turned the DRs in the near ped combats matches. Some of the funnest PVP I ever had. Previous champs Willam "Frankenstein" Barker and Eric '"the cheat" Curry are why we have EAA rules today! Making leagues cleaner by playing dirty is what the BASTARDS ARE ALL ABOUT lol

S42543 this is so old I was "slaythofens" then and Latte's raiders was a PC!
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Posted Jan 17, 2016, 7:05 pm Last edited Jan 17, 2016, 7:30 pm by Joel Autobaun
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