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From next season (2079) there will be 5 leagues sponsored by camps (previously there were 3), offering extra camp fame for the year. These are done via auctions at Dexter's, as normal.

Also, a number of leagues will offer camp fame boosts or camp production boosts as prizes. The prizes will apply for the game year following the one in which the league runs.

As a trial, the new prizes are being run on the Gateway Winter Meltdown during the current season (2078).

You nominate the camp you are representing at the time that you register your league entry.

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Posted Jan 9, 2016, 9:11 am Last edited Jan 9, 2016, 9:13 am by *sam*
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*sam* said:
You nominate the camp you are representing at the time that you register your league entry.


For those who do not know it, your camp ID number is located at the top of your camp info tab.

Thanks again Sam for getting this implemented!
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Posted Jan 9, 2016, 10:19 am
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*The X Man* said:
*sam* said:
You nominate the camp you are representing at the time that you register your league entry.


For those who do not know it, your camp ID number is located at the top of your camp info tab.

Thanks again Sam for getting this implemented!


No prob, hopefully it's a popular addition!
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Posted Jan 9, 2016, 6:17 pm
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We need to know fame boosts on the new sponsors to make educated bids.
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Posted Jan 9, 2016, 6:19 pm
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5 paid for camp fames... hates it. More fame for damaging an already ridiculous economy.

Fame for winning leagues...loves it. PvP in controlled environs is WHAT THIS GAME IS.
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Posted Jan 9, 2016, 8:28 pm
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*sam* said:
*The X Man* said:
*sam* said:
You nominate the camp you are representing at the time that you register your league entry.


For those who do not know it, your camp ID number is located at the top of your camp info tab.

Thanks again Sam for getting this implemented!


No prob, hopefully it's a popular addition!


Sounds good but please make sure its not just for Leagues that only people in certain parts of the world, or who have certain job schedules can participate in.  Winter Meltdown is one of those that excludes many people (as does 2 guineas and some others I cant remember).  I assume this will apply to all leagues most likely?

Added Paid Sponsors:  I have mixed feelings.  I feel having Tiers of each sponsor is better so the top 3 bidders get something (top sponsor plus 2 lesser sponsor levels).

this way its not all about *How bad can I hurt my competitor* in bidding up their sponsorship cost.
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Posted Jan 9, 2016, 8:29 pm Last edited Jan 9, 2016, 8:33 pm by *StCrispin*
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Also what about Joels awesome suggestion of "sponsor the AI" where you in effect Pay the expenses for an AI gang and if THEY win you get prizes (and can you join the events to help them to win as if you were part of a team).

That was a Stellar idea
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Posted Jan 9, 2016, 8:30 pm
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*StCrispin* said:
Also what about Joels awesome suggestion of "sponsor the AI" where you in effect Pay the expenses for an AI gang and if THEY win you get prizes (and can you join the events to help them to win as if you were part of a team).

That was a Stellar idea


I said sponsor players but someone suggested AI too - which is awesome yes.  Sponsor ANYONE.  Coupled with individual ganger fame (which gives ZERO in game bonus), would bring leagues absolutely alive again.
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Posted Jan 9, 2016, 8:36 pm Last edited Jan 9, 2016, 8:38 pm by Joel Autobaun
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Krakhedd said:
We need to know fame boosts on the new sponsors to make educated bids.

I think your just gonna have to take your chances.
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Posted Jan 9, 2016, 11:18 pm
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Celticfrost said:
Krakhedd said:
We need to know fame boosts on the new sponsors to make educated bids.

I think your just gonna have to take your chances.


I reckon so too but hope I don't have to :)
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Posted Jan 10, 2016, 3:18 am
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Joel Autobaun said:
5 paid for camp fames... hates it.  More fame for damaging an already ridiculous economy.

Fame for winning leagues...loves it.  PvP in controlled environs is WHAT THIS GAME IS.



Now that the code is in place for both of these things, we will easily be able to revise the actual numbers involved, e.g. to weight more towards the prizes and less towards the sponsorships.
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Posted Jan 10, 2016, 11:53 am
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I think that Joel has got it right - limit the fame from sponsorship and increase the amount of fame you can get for winning/taking part in leagues

This is what the DRM should be all about ;-)
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Posted Jan 10, 2016, 7:37 pm
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Racing Robbie said:
I think that Joel has got it right - limit the fame from sponsorship and increase the amount of fame you can get for winning/taking part in leagues

This is what the DRM should be all about ;-)


agreed, Joel's take on it seems a little more fair.  And more realistic.

Also it helps remove one of the items on my list of *Incentives to Alt* by making the Daddy Warbucks method of getting Camp Fame less important (no need to have a billion $DW if there's nothing that costly to spend it on)
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Posted Jan 10, 2016, 11:05 pm
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I don't suppose we could add some smaller one-time fame bonuses from winning pro events, too?
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Posted Jan 17, 2016, 11:07 pm
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Krakhedd said:
I don't suppose we could add some smaller one-time fame bonuses from winning pro events, too?


Pro events happen all the time, that would be a licence to grind camp fame. 
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Posted Jan 18, 2016, 3:17 am
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*Tango* said:
Krakhedd said:
I don't suppose we could add some smaller one-time fame bonuses from winning pro events, too?


Pro events happen all the time, that would be a licence to grind camp fame. 


Or a massive incentive to partipate? Certainly only very small boosts from the GWM league have seen an almost unprecedented attendance.


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Posted Jan 18, 2016, 8:27 am
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I admit I was interested to join the GWM league for the reason of a fame boost, any fame boosting events I would be more inclined to do, or else I will go scout outside of town.

Is there a reason for the Pro events? I have never really looked at them, as with almost all town events they generally don't give me any reason to play them, and I feel that others would be the same. For the time it takes to run one town event I can run a scout, and get more ganger skill gain.

Of course there would need to be a balance some how, maybe limit a camps town fame gains a week?

That being said would it matter? Is it no different at the moment with people grinding cash to win sponsors?
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An additional thought - fame boost for league sponsorship lasts 3 months - i.e. duration of the league

Is there any reason ALL boosts need last so long?
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Posted Jan 18, 2016, 12:45 pm
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Splurs said:

Is it no different at the moment with people grinding cash to win sponsors?



Scale is the enormous difference  It would take a whole lot more time to earn enough money to bid on even the cheapest sponsorship.  Last year I think the cheapest went for 60 million?  How many scouts is that?  Even if you award a single point of fame for a single Pro event it would be much much faster.

DirkNotSoGently said:


Is there any reason ALL boosts need last so long?


Maybe not SO long, but the way fame and camps work there is a minimum under which it wouldn't make sense.  You can only set your production once a week.

DirkNotSoGently said:

Or a massive incentive to participate? Certainly only very small boosts from the GWM league have seen an almost unprecedented attendance.


Yep it's easy to create more participation with more rewards.  Is it possible to have too many rewards?  Ever play a Monty Haul game where everything gets too easy and is boring?
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Posted Jan 18, 2016, 12:48 pm Last edited Jan 18, 2016, 1:15 pm by *Tango*
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Meh you guys sure love to grind. .its a game. .supposed to be fun pvp in these controlled leagues is the best fun. The grind rewards are there and they are absolutely rediculously damaging to the spirit of this game. Fights over it in fact...witchhunts over it. I can show u guys pvp that is NO FUN FOR ANYONE if you really want it? That gateway dr was absolutely amazing and i probably have no chance at a fame boost.

Restricting the bonus to 3 game months makes it useless...planning camp builds takes nearly that long.

Please guys dont let the usual uninformed opinions ruin this wonderful change sam finally made.

Tango...try winning one of these leagues now and tell me its easy or boring.
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Posted Jan 18, 2016, 7:48 pm Last edited Jan 18, 2016, 8:04 pm by Joel Autobaun
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