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*StCrispin* Beasts of the Lair Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,657 Joined: Feb 13, 2012 Yes that was me. And when I was Anarchist and when I was privateer and when I was renegade this was true almost 100% of the time with or without a trained scout. Occasionally there were exceptions but it was less then 1% of the time. I would bet money Sam changed this. He does seem to make quiet changes when someone mouths off about how his "fix" won't affect them. And I tend to mouth off a lot. ......................... vet wv gwped paintladder paintball marshal raceL10,1,0 Posted Nov 13, 2015, 3:01 am Last edited Nov 14, 2015, 4:22 am by *StCrispin*

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,907 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 It has never been true outside of your head. ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted Nov 13, 2015, 9:16 am

*StCrispin* Beasts of the Lair Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,657 Joined: Feb 13, 2012 goat starer said: It has never been true outside of your head. Yuh Huh! lol ......................... vet wv gwped paintladder paintball marshal raceL10,1,0 Posted Nov 14, 2015, 4:22 am

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 *StCrispin* said: I would bet money Sam changed this. Cool. I'll give you 1000000-1 odds, how much you putting up?  ;-) ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Nov 14, 2015, 9:51 am

*StCrispin* Beasts of the Lair Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,657 Joined: Feb 13, 2012 lol. only you know for sure and I cant prove it. and I bet you want my dollar! ......................... vet wv gwped paintladder paintball marshal raceL10,1,0 Posted Nov 14, 2015, 10:27 pm

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,907 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 erm no crispin.... on those odds he wants your 1 million dollars... uness you were planning to stake one one millionth of a dollar? ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted Nov 14, 2015, 10:44 pm

*StCrispin* Beasts of the Lair Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,657 Joined: Feb 13, 2012 I read it wrong then, I thought he was offering 1,000,000 to 1 odds. Meaning he was offering a million to my 1 because he was so sure I would lose. I don't gamble so I must have read it backwards. Kinda like how 5x3 is 3+3+3+3+3 and NOT 5+5+5 according to schools in my country. ......................... vet wv gwped paintladder paintball marshal raceL10,1,0 Posted Nov 14, 2015, 10:58 pm

*Splurs* Splurs Scroungers Racer Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 163 Joined: Dec 17, 2012 It seems to me that the rep system is still quite broken, and it seems like I can balance more rep now than I could before the "fix". After absolutely smashing raiders out of GW, and Anarchists out of BL, this is what my rep looks like. Before the fix I would be scorned by the anarachists and raiders by now. I have hit the civs and merchs only once or twice and it was only with 2 or 3 car scouts. Nothing in comparison to the raider/anarchist hits I did. Not to mention in the past when I have done the same, Slavers and Mutants would take a negative view at me also. Civs Respected Merchants Honoured Anarchists Unappreciated Mutants Neutral Slavers Neutral Badlands Truckstop Honoured Morgan Respected Deathrace Mafia Liked Evan Reds Neutral Raiders Unappreciated Privateers Neutral ......................... vet wv marshal Posted Nov 15, 2015, 12:16 am

Master TMO Trueblood Sunday Driver Renegade Group: Members Posts: 84 Joined: May 31, 2015 I feel no guilt. I truced every Civ gang today and I was neutral to Civs. The Militia intercepted me and wouldn't truce. So I murdered them. Yeah, I'm Unappreciated now.. I'll live with it. My scout is mid-20's, for what it's worth. PS - I'm appreciated by Morgan and Privateers. Going to be hard to remove those so that I can get Appreciated by useful gangs for operating around SS. Should faction reputations change for factions that don't operate in the region where you're at? Yes, I'm sure the rules allow it. I'm wondering if they *should* allow it. ......................... vet wv gwextrav Posted Nov 15, 2015, 3:46 am Last edited Nov 15, 2015, 3:49 am by Master TMO

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 *StCrispin* said: I read it wrong then, I thought he was offering 1,000,000 to 1 odds.  Meaning he was offering a million to my 1 because he was so sure I would lose. I don't gamble so I must have read it backwards. Kinda like how 5x3 is 3+3+3+3+3 and NOT 5+5+5 according to schools in my country. You had it right actually, I did mean 1000000 to 1. But of course it was a joke ;-) ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Nov 15, 2015, 9:40 am

Master TMO Trueblood Sunday Driver Renegade Group: Members Posts: 84 Joined: May 31, 2015 Okay, objectively, I know I've just gotten myself into a recursive loop with the Militia. I've truced every single Civs gang I've encountered in the wilds, and the Militia has intercepted me twice. Both times I fought them instead of running. So now not only am I Unappreciated by Civs, they've put a bounty out on me. Subjectively, it feels like they're bullying me, and pissed off because I'm daring to fight back. And because I have 5 Appreciateds, they'll never get back above neutral unless I manage to drop somebody else somehow. The two obvious ones to drop (Morgan and Privateers) don't operate in SS for me work on. I can see 4 easy options: * Give up scouting for a week or so until they forget about me. * Go pirate and either continue the way I am (trucing in the wild and hunting Militia) or hunting all Civs * Move to Gateway and just get away from the Militia. GW is Merchant allied at the moment, and have a wider variety of factions to hunt. * Hunt Mutants in SS and run away from returns until the mutants hate me and the Civs like me. ......................... vet wv gwextrav Posted Nov 16, 2015, 5:34 am Last edited Nov 16, 2015, 2:14 pm by Master TMO

PvtParty Paceys Raiders Darkwind Guru Slavers Faction Group: Subscribers Posts: 692 Joined: Aug 5, 2012 Another option: Hunt high fame gangs that are hated by the Civs/Merchants to build up hero points, then use them to "buy back" friendship with the Civs. ......................... vet wv ss2fl67 pvp5 paintball pvp3 pvp2 Posted Nov 16, 2015, 8:57 am

Master TMO Trueblood Sunday Driver Renegade Group: Members Posts: 84 Joined: May 31, 2015 How interesting. My bounty went up overnight while I was asleep. Delayed processing from an earlier encounter, I assume? Update: And now it's gone up a *third* time, even though I haven't been playing. ......................... vet wv gwextrav Posted Nov 16, 2015, 3:08 pm Last edited Nov 16, 2015, 7:30 pm by Master TMO

*Joskney* El Nubnubs Racer Morgan Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 207 Joined: Sep 11, 2014 Are you worth killing yet?? HMMM enterprising minds want to know. ......................... vet wv paintball northernsummer race1 pvp5 pvp4 ww sssc semiprocombat gwped deathrceL1 raceL1 marshal circuit1 gwextrav combatL1 paintladder3,12,2 Posted Nov 17, 2015, 2:36 am

Master TMO Trueblood Sunday Driver Renegade Group: Members Posts: 84 Joined: May 31, 2015 Nah. Only 275 a person, and only 6 of my people are eligible. I'm still small fry. ......................... vet wv gwextrav Posted Nov 17, 2015, 4:08 am

PvtParty Paceys Raiders Darkwind Guru Slavers Faction Group: Subscribers Posts: 692 Joined: Aug 5, 2012 Yeah, but it will improve our reps if we eradicate your hated gang  ......................... vet wv ss2fl67 pvp5 paintball pvp3 pvp2 Posted Nov 17, 2015, 9:06 am

*Bigspenner* Brassicas Darkwind Guru Civs Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 546 Joined: Sep 17, 2008 Something quite interesting has happened to my reps! Civs Fancied Merchants Scared Anarchists Lusted After Mutants Bit Dodgy Slavers Arificial Badlands Truckstop Bemused Morgan Creepy Deathrace Godlike Evan Reds Hugely Endowed Raiders Under Endowed Privateers Amused I don't Know what sams done here ! ......................... vet wv combatL1 deathrceL1 paintladder slay2013 pvp4 gwextrav pvp3 marshal pvp2 pvp1 pvp5 paintball e2g Posted Nov 17, 2015, 11:41 am

Master TMO Trueblood Sunday Driver Renegade Group: Members Posts: 84 Joined: May 31, 2015 *puzzled* Okay... I haven't left town at all in a couple of days, only doing a few in-town events, and my bounty has gone up *AGAIN*. I honestly don't know why the Militia dislikes me even more now. The only thing I can think of is that I hired a new ganger last night who has a >30 skill, so instead of 6/11 potential targets, now it's 7/12. ......................... vet wv gwextrav Posted Nov 17, 2015, 2:29 pm

The Paranoid Tourist Precipitous Treachery Darkwind Guru Slavers Faction Group: Members Posts: 1,828 Joined: Jan 12, 2007 Things do seem weird. I'm now locally notorious in SS despite not having recently done anything that should make them angry. ......................... vet gateautumn gwextrav raceL1 wv e2g0,2,0 Posted Nov 17, 2015, 8:56 pm

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 The Paranoid Tourist said: Things do seem weird. I'm now locally notorious in SS despite not having recently done anything that should make them angry. Notorious means high fame and neutral rep. ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Nov 17, 2015, 9:36 pm

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