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d0dger an0maly Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 2,492 Joined: Jan 24, 2010 Master TMO said: How interesting.  My bounty went up overnight while I was asleep.  Delayed processing from an earlier encounter, I assume? Update: And now it's gone up a *third* time, even though I haven't been playing. Failed missions that the timer expired on? ......................... vet wv combat1 combatL1 paintladder pvp5 sssc deathrceL1 pvp4 zom race1 semiprocombat deathrce1 raceL1 pvp3 pvp2 ww pvp1 paintball santa2 gwped4,16,10 Posted Nov 17, 2015, 11:57 pm

Master TMO Trueblood Sunday Driver Renegade Group: Members Posts: 84 Joined: May 31, 2015 d0dger said: Master TMO said: How interesting.  My bounty went up overnight while I was asleep.  Delayed processing from an earlier encounter, I assume? Update: And now it's gone up a *third* time, even though I haven't been playing. Failed missions that the timer expired on? No missions active at the moment.  I don't currently qualify for any. ......................... vet wv gwextrav Posted Nov 18, 2015, 1:18 am

PvtParty Paceys Raiders Darkwind Guru Slavers Faction Group: Subscribers Posts: 692 Joined: Aug 5, 2012 You should still be able to advertise for courier missions. It's a very good way to improve your standings with the factions - assuming you succeed that is, otherwise your rep will get even worse. ......................... vet wv ss2fl67 pvp5 paintball pvp3 pvp2 Posted Nov 18, 2015, 9:15 am

Master TMO Trueblood Sunday Driver Renegade Group: Members Posts: 84 Joined: May 31, 2015 Scavengers can't do those. At any rate, it appears none of my rep problems are directly caused by the changes Sam has made to the code, so I'll stop reporting them in this thread and distracting from the main focus. Thanks all for the help and advice! ......................... vet wv gwextrav Posted Nov 18, 2015, 2:19 pm

*Bigspenner* Brassicas Darkwind Guru Civs Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 546 Joined: Sep 17, 2008 Further to my previuos post Something quite interesting has happened to my reps! and now its getting even stranger. Civs Lusting Merchants Dithery Anarchists Stalking Mutants Villainous Slavers Delirious Badlands Truckstop Completely Bewildered Morgan Magnetic Deathrace Godlike Evan Reds Hugely Endowed Raiders Under Endowed Privateers Happy I don't Know what sams done here ! ......................... vet wv combatL1 deathrceL1 paintladder slay2013 pvp4 gwextrav pvp3 marshal pvp2 pvp1 pvp5 paintball e2g Posted Nov 18, 2015, 2:36 pm

*Snipe* Renshai Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals + Rule Council Posts: 581 Joined: Aug 31, 2009 Drunken posts will, from here on out, be ignored ......................... vet wv gateautumn sssc santa1 raceL1 deathrceL1 marshal pvp2 zom combatL1 pvp52,6,2 Posted Nov 18, 2015, 4:32 pm

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,907 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 Reds are indeed hugely endowed ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted Nov 18, 2015, 9:41 pm

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,513 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 Good to see the rep systems has finally been fixed. next issue. ------------------------------------------------------- imageshack is failing me this is just a substitute ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,1 Posted Nov 19, 2015, 10:42 am Last edited Nov 19, 2015, 10:57 am by *Bastille*

Master TMO Trueblood Sunday Driver Renegade Group: Members Posts: 84 Joined: May 31, 2015 This one *might* be related to the change, might not. This morning, I was neutral to Raiders. This afternoon, I was unappreciated. This evening, I'm neutral again. I did do a travel, but just ran away from the encounter. And this evening's check is after midnight server time. Update: Hrmph. the reset came along and lowered my morale from 200 to 170, but my faction reps are unchanged. Unappreciated Civs, appreciated Mutants, Slavers, Morgan, DRM, Privateers. ......................... vet wv gwextrav Posted Nov 20, 2015, 1:57 am Last edited Nov 20, 2015, 5:51 am by Master TMO

Bolt Thrower Quantum Symphony Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 727 Joined: Sep 12, 2013 despite the client warning, i am still unimpressed by the messed up economy. Given the farming of SS gangs it is mostly a joke. And overly sensitive hypocrites who think I should stay on topic, should shut up. You are a sad tragedy at best. ......................... vet wv northernsummer1,92,1 Posted Nov 21, 2015, 5:50 am

*Bigspenner* Brassicas Darkwind Guru Civs Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 546 Joined: Sep 17, 2008 Bot don't be a buffoon no one needs to be insulted just because you disagree with them. This off topic you know! ......................... vet wv combatL1 deathrceL1 paintladder slay2013 pvp4 gwextrav pvp3 marshal pvp2 pvp1 pvp5 paintball e2g Posted Nov 21, 2015, 3:40 pm

RotaryJunkie Foul Play Sunday Driver Morgan Faction Group: Members Posts: 33 Joined: Aug 31, 2014 Okay, so my initial impression of the fix was "Okay, whatever, can only end up with 5 factions positive, shouldn't be too big of a deal" but the more I play, the more wrong it gets, worsening with each weekly neutralization. Thought the reason I couldn't end up with positive Civ rep was my post-change switch to Mutant primary. Wrong. Went Renegade and dragged all my reps via leaving offered factions, have since been a raider-hunting renegade, with some Evan Red targets of opportunity thrown in for good measure. And yet my Civ/Merchant reputation randomly bounces between Unappreciated, Neutral, and occasionally Appreciated by Civs alone. Biggest issue is that at present raider hunting attempts to improve relations with 5!! factions (civs/merchants/mutants/Morgan/Privateers) with tons of knock-on effects as each of those 5 being improved obviously have other factions those positive effects either bring up or bring down. Prior to the change, a strict Raider/Red diet would lead to strong relations with all save anarchists, reds, and Raiders, that's 8 factions trying to go net positive from killing two. I don't have any issue with the fix itself, or the way it is meant to work (though I'd have preferred a fix of the underlying issues instead), but ironically the "fix" just obviates the need for a complete overhaul of faction relations, which would've solved the problem in the first place. My only ask is that you actually make the game work how you intend it. At present, everything is fighting itself in a way that makes little to no sense. ......................... vet wv Posted Nov 23, 2015, 11:15 am

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 Thanks for the input. Several people have mentioned that improving the actual faction relations formulas would be a very useful thing. It might make sense to form a small group of people willing to take this on and figure out the numbers?? ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Nov 23, 2015, 11:51 am

Master TMO Trueblood Sunday Driver Renegade Group: Members Posts: 84 Joined: May 31, 2015 *sam* said: Thanks for the input.  Several people have mentioned that improving the actual faction relations formulas would be a very useful thing. It might make sense to form a small group of people willing to take this on and figure out the numbers?? That's the kind of thing I love to do.  Yah, I'm weird, but count me in if you're willing to have a lesser-experienced player. ......................... vet wv gwextrav Posted Nov 23, 2015, 2:07 pm

RotaryJunkie Foul Play Sunday Driver Morgan Faction Group: Members Posts: 33 Joined: Aug 31, 2014 Same here. ......................... vet wv Posted Nov 23, 2015, 3:28 pm

Master TMO Trueblood Sunday Driver Renegade Group: Members Posts: 84 Joined: May 31, 2015 Another bit of reputation weirdness: I was Unappreciated vs Civs and Raiders both. I scouted and redded a couple of Ironmonger gangers, and now I'm Neutral vs both. ......................... vet wv gwextrav Posted Nov 23, 2015, 6:36 pm

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,907 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 Why is that weird? ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted Nov 24, 2015, 1:05 am

RotaryJunkie Foul Play Sunday Driver Morgan Faction Group: Members Posts: 33 Joined: Aug 31, 2014 Because raider rep shouldn't improve from ignoring an offered truce and killing raiders. ......................... vet wv Posted Nov 24, 2015, 1:22 am

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,907 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 Raiders have self loathing If TMO wants people to take this seriously he needs to post some rep pics from before and after scouts. Screenshots with Time and date. As it stands rather suspect a liveware problem rather due to wet memory drop out rather than a code of database error. ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted Nov 24, 2015, 1:25 am Last edited Nov 24, 2015, 1:37 am by goat starer

*StCrispin* Beasts of the Lair Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,657 Joined: Feb 13, 2012 I gained Slaver rep by not playing. Went from Neutral to Appreciated. Possibly its an effect of being Anarchist aligned but it seems odd. Now, if Goat was the ruler of the Slavers I could see that. Goat Appreciates when I don't play! Hey will I gain Goat Rep if I don't post in the forums? ......................... vet wv gwped paintladder paintball marshal raceL10,1,0 Posted Nov 24, 2015, 2:05 am

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