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So playing morgan defences. being attacked by freindly team mates while in that defence?
Then after they finished killing me they move on to kill all the pirates in the defence while claming its too hard to do real pvp Defences in morgan cuz its too hard if players are on the pirates side?

What so morgan PVP is basicly start next to each other slaughter each other then kill pirates? is that what makes morgan pvp so hard is that why you cant join the pirates side? cuz the *good guys* *defenders need that 2nd turn freindly fire on people they dont like so they stand only a 90% chance of winning pirates after?

Whats going off? i want to be able to join the pirates side if there is going to be freindly fire in morgan defences in the future please.

Least i dont getting shot by players on my side in the 2nd turn.

Also The excuse (you will lose stuff if you lose a morgan defence doesnt go down too well if your already losing stuff to players on the same side of you) doesnt realy count does it???......

Anyways id like this to be a serious discution please.
And id like to see it changed to a normal defence just like anywhere else. where players can join the pirates or they can join the defenders cuz if im not welcome there i might as well be a pirate there.
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*Posted Aug 10, 2015, 6:29 am
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I never claimed it was too hard for PvP. You said it was clearly too easy, I said reds are still common and not as easy as you might think.
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Posted Aug 10, 2015, 7:20 am
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For some reason, the phrase "you reap what you sow" springs to mind...
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Posted Aug 10, 2015, 10:28 am
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you cant join the pirates because when Sam made morgan, He Said So.

If you want to join the Pirate side do the Somerset, Elmsfield, Gateway Defenses.
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Posted Aug 11, 2015, 6:44 am
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Also, if you didn't treat people poorly in other places in the game, they wouldn't smoke you in Morgan. Morgan is where endgame play occurs with players who, for the most part, know each other well, respect each other despite their differences, and Play Co-Operatively with everything they have in Morgan at risk if someone screws up.

A player who states in role play that they have a dislike for others and that they will "Make the defense interesting" tend to get wasted because everyone else wants to prevent that person from undermining the defense.

You come off as a threat to success, as such the players remove the barrier to success.

Firelight Gladiator pits are another place you will encounter this.
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Posted Aug 11, 2015, 6:50 am
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'Also, if you didn't treat people poorly in other places in the game, they wouldn't smoke you in Morgan.'

It's a bit rich though when if he was doing the smoking he'd be forcibly removed yet krak could kill him every time without repercussion.
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Posted Aug 11, 2015, 9:06 am
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Forcibly removed HOW?
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Posted Aug 11, 2015, 10:18 am
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X-man said in lobby he will remove him from morgan defences.
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Posted Aug 11, 2015, 10:25 am
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Jaqen Hagar said:
X-man said in lobby he will remove him from morgan defences.


I feel like some context would shed some more light on this situation. Yes X was talking about removing Ash from Morgan defences, but this was because Ashlee was talking about going into the defences and just hitting everyone on his team.

Things like these are looked at on a case-by-case basis. If Ash went into a Morgan defence and crossed off a couple of Krakk's gangers, then fair enough. Part of an ongoing feud, fair game. Once you start randomly hitting anyone on your team it becomes griefing. That's the point when X was talking about removing him.
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Posted Aug 11, 2015, 10:31 am
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The whole thing is trust

Thanks to his own behaviour - and NOTHING else - Ashlee has lost trust

When in a team event I want someone I know has my back - he is not that man.

As already mentioned, Morgan is hard enough, it requires team-play - if Ash can't prove he is capable of that then let him play pirate in other town attacks - I'm sure that would make many players VERY happy as they dance around his burning cars

I play this game for fun - and quite frankly I can do without this cr*p - so if I see Ash in a team event from now on I will either resign, escape thru distance or zero him so I know he's not a risk.

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Posted Aug 11, 2015, 10:46 am Last edited Aug 11, 2015, 10:48 am by DirkNotSoGently
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Yeah random is a bit much but as we all know there are alot of ongoing feuds with ash, it's not a stretch for everyone on the defence to be in a vendetta war with him, from the off it's a million to anyone(bit random?) that kills his ganger's in a defence.

I'm not trying to defend his actions but he is being forced onto a team with his enemies and then being asked to play nice when it's not reciprocal or he'll get the boot.
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Posted Aug 11, 2015, 10:49 am
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Not forced at all - just stay outta Morgan defence - for the reasons already clearly listed
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Posted Aug 11, 2015, 10:50 am
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Jaqen Hagar said:
...he is being forced onto a team with his enemies


Not true on any level. Nobody is forcing him to do anything. There are countless other events he could do where he could be on the opposing team to other players.

Jaqen Hagar said:
...then being asked to play nice when it's not reciprocal or he'll get the boot.


Again, reciprocity isn't a problem. If you attack someone - no matter who it is - expect them to hit you back.

And finally;

Jaqen Hagar said:
...from the off it's a million to anyone(bit random?) that kills his ganger's in a defence.


This is very much a case of digging one's own grave. If you piss everyone off, eventually someone is going try to knock you off. So at that point you have to either hope that you're good enough and have the gear to counter it, or, much easier; don't piss everyone off.


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Posted Aug 11, 2015, 11:23 am
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Since when has x man and all his goon's been EVERYBODY?*

I have plenty of players who im me and are freinldy with me enough in ims but they dont want to say anything in lobby cuz of the way other players treat them.

I been told on numour times how people are going to Drive me from the game. aka: hostel detectives. (hows driving me from the game going so far for you?)

You may think i have a attuitude which i do but dont talk to me like ur own poop dont stink...

These morgan defences are a joke and it border lines on bullying which could also be said about alot of ur attuitudes...

SO what if i dont human truce people?? ..and red players gangers who think they are better than and quick to mouth it back to me... as quick as i am them????

I been called a sperm Guzzler in lobby in the main lobby by bloodghost for me to take it out of lobby and go into his ims to basicly call him names back in ims so im not calling him names like what i just mentioned now in lobby and was muted for a hour by an admin.

Stop playing theres more of us saying ur the problem...
Cuz there are alot of players who like me who just dont want to get stuck in the middle of the drama.

X man tryed to kill me in a freindly scout that he wasnt even running and k1 was running it this is when id been playing for about 2 months. and when i complain about it K1 says x man can do what ever he wants in his scouts and x man is like i can do what ever i want?....

So why cant i do what ever i want? why is it suddnely a problem when i start doing what i want?....

Tbh all i want is it to be fair PVP in morgan.... i dont need to be fighting avet on Turn 2 in a town defence when hes been playing for 7 years and i been playing a tottal of 5 to 6 months....
My pvp flag is off..is morgan defence for Player vs player or is it ment for player vs A.I cuz if its player vs player id like morgan to be fixed please..

Other wise its vets bullying noobs they dont like in a town they think they own...cuz x mans the mayor well im liked by morgan .......x man didnt make me liked by morgan i did that myself..... get off ur high horses....

This is classic bullying and all i ask is let me be on the priates side and i like fighting in morgan i like the snow....so telling me to go to other towns is silly. cuz we are not on about other towns we are on about morgan.

Anyways ill save a bit more of my rant for laters.

Have a good time.
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Posted Aug 11, 2015, 11:44 am Last edited Aug 11, 2015, 11:44 am by Ashlee
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As always, a literate and reasoned response from Ashlee

Since your gang remains total trash and your main experience seems to be in footsquads, it would seem the campaign to marginalise you is well under way

If you were simply to be a bit more moderate - you might just find things easier

Instead you accept no responsibility for the repercussions brought on by your behaviour and rant like a petulant child

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This is classic bullying...


No - bullying is when you pick on someone smaller & weaker to make yourself seem more important - what some (though notably never myself) are doing is responding in the only way your immature mentality seems to understand

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Posted Aug 11, 2015, 11:58 am Last edited Aug 11, 2015, 11:58 am by DirkNotSoGently
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wasnt it you tho who said you was gonna drive me from the game?

Is'nt it players you need in this game?
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Posted Aug 11, 2015, 12:03 pm
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Nope - said you had signed your own death warrant and that you wouldn't make it here

I stand by that and my points above (which you completely fail to address) back that up
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Posted Aug 11, 2015, 12:04 pm
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my gangs like full of 17 year olds?......So beating up kids isnt bullying? in a morgan defence not like my main subject on this matter isnt a Morgan defence?......
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Posted Aug 11, 2015, 12:04 pm Last edited Aug 11, 2015, 12:04 pm by Ashlee
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... and the opinion of many is we do NOT need players like you.
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Posted Aug 11, 2015, 12:04 pm Last edited Aug 11, 2015, 12:04 pm by DirkNotSoGently
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Morgan is specifically created for experienced players, prepared to contribute in a team against a difficult opponent

Again, you are not someone I would expect to fill that role well in ANY way
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