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Extra ammo

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,781 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 I have just written some new code into the looting process, so that during Scav combats the opposition may carry some extra clips of random ammo. Let me know how this works ok, in terms of quantity and variation (and bugs). ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Jun 25, 2015, 11:19 am

*The X Man* Better Off Dead Darkwind Guru Slavers Faction Group: Game Manager Posts: 2,215 Joined: Jul 25, 2012 Thank You Sam, we will keep an eye out for any anomalies or issues if they arise. ......................... vet wv marshal paintladder zom circuit3 paintball raceL1 race1 pvp4 hammer circuit2 pvp2 circuit1 gwped pvp5 pvp3 pvp1 deathrceL1 triangle1 combatL1 elmsautumn combat1 northernsummer1,3,0 Posted Jun 26, 2015, 7:00 am

*Boonwolf* Finger 3 Darkwind Guru Morgan Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 1,139 Joined: Mar 7, 2012 Will edit on this to keep tabs of ammo drops ok ok FIRST drop I got was 3 units of HEAVEY LASER ammo did I find a mirror? 2nd run 1,100+/- CR Drop 3 Spike dropper 2 Oil jet 3rd run 700CR Drop 3 SMG ammo ......................... vet wv paintball paintladder ped1 race1 semiprocombat zom marshal pvp20,5,0 Posted Jun 26, 2015, 4:23 pm Last edited Jun 27, 2015, 8:29 am by *Boonwolf*

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,908 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 awesome... i dont have a heavy laser but i am wondering if i can also use it as a night light? incidentally... power packs / fuel cells should be required to run lasers. ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted Jun 26, 2015, 7:48 pm

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,781 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 *Boonwolf* said: ok ok FIRST drop I got was 3 units of HEAVEY LASER ammo  did I find a mirror? Whahey!  I'll fix that bug now. I think there's a few units of laser ammo kicking around from a bug years ago. Keep them as a memento  ;-) ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Jun 27, 2015, 5:03 pm

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,908 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 seriously.. if it is dropping three units of ammo for a very rare weapon that seems rather excessive.... would hate to see more than the very rare cc or hcr clip dropped. ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted Jun 27, 2015, 5:13 pm

*Boonwolf* Finger 3 Darkwind Guru Morgan Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 1,139 Joined: Mar 7, 2012 goat starer said: seriously.. if it is dropping three units of ammo for a very rare weapon that seems rather excessive.... would hate to see more than the very rare cc or hcr clip dropped.   I'm with you on this one goat the very rare should be less than 3 on the drop. I will have to scout more to see what drops and how many. I have yet to get a ammo that falls into the useful rare. ......................... vet wv paintball paintladder ped1 race1 semiprocombat zom marshal pvp20,5,0 Posted Jun 27, 2015, 7:36 pm

*StCrispin* Beasts of the Lair Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,657 Joined: Feb 13, 2012 *sam* said: I have just written some new code into the looting process, so that during Scav combats the opposition may carry some extra clips of random ammo. Let me know how this works ok, in terms of quantity and variation (and bugs). I guess that's why 1 freelancer was hauling 7 HMG reloads!  I thought my Salvager 2 was just "That Good" like she keeps telling me. (it was a 3 vs 3 scout.  probably 375 to 450 CR out of Elmsfield Vs Merchant Traders) ......................... vet wv gwped paintladder paintball marshal raceL10,1,0 Posted Jun 27, 2015, 9:12 pm Last edited Jun 27, 2015, 9:14 pm by *StCrispin*

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,908 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 *StCrispin* said: *sam* said: I have just written some new code into the looting process, so that during Scav combats the opposition may carry some extra clips of random ammo. Let me know how this works ok, in terms of quantity and variation (and bugs). I guess that's why 1 freelancer was hauling 7 HMG reloads!  I thought my Salvager 2 was just "That Good" like she keeps telling me. (it was a 3 vs 3 scout.  probably 375 to 450 CR out of Elmsfield Vs Merchant Traders) Again... Far too much. Ammo should be scarce... There should be a max of 1 extra clip. ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted Jun 28, 2015, 10:00 am

*Boonwolf* Finger 3 Darkwind Guru Morgan Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 1,139 Joined: Mar 7, 2012 After a few more scouts I don't think the drop ammo is over the top. 0-3 seems the normal, out of my last few runs I had 2 that dropped nothing 1 dropped 1 RB reload and another dropped 2 spike dropper. ......................... vet wv paintball paintladder ped1 race1 semiprocombat zom marshal pvp20,5,0 Posted Jun 28, 2015, 8:40 pm

*The X Man* Better Off Dead Darkwind Guru Slavers Faction Group: Game Manager Posts: 2,215 Joined: Jul 25, 2012 Need to take into consideration that the added increase of ammo is not a guaranteed drop because you can still shoot up and damage cargo reducing the amount that makes it to the looting phase. ......................... vet wv marshal paintladder zom circuit3 paintball raceL1 race1 pvp4 hammer circuit2 pvp2 circuit1 gwped pvp5 pvp3 pvp1 deathrceL1 triangle1 combatL1 elmsautumn combat1 northernsummer1,3,0 Posted Jun 28, 2015, 10:55 pm

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,908 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 Should never be more than one clip of anything. This is a lazy version of the trader suggestion ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted Jun 28, 2015, 11:35 pm

Master TMO Trueblood Sunday Driver Renegade Group: Members Posts: 84 Joined: May 31, 2015 Random math idea: 10% chance per car of carrying 1 clip of a random ammo. If it is carrying one, roll another 10% chance for another clip. Every success, check one more time @10% for more clips. Continue rolling until a failure. That way there's no upper limit, but realistically most of the time it'll only be 1. ......................... vet wv gwextrav Posted Jun 29, 2015, 2:00 am

*The X Man* Better Off Dead Darkwind Guru Slavers Faction Group: Game Manager Posts: 2,215 Joined: Jul 25, 2012 goat starer said: Should never be more than one clip of anything. This is a lazy version of the trader suggestion Most encounters, a player is going to use at least one clip of ammo per weapon. If you can only loot a maximum of one clip, it wouldn't take long before you have zero ammo in your lockup. You need to be able loot more than you use so you can replenish your weapons and lockup. Now, if you meant only one clip of special or rare ammo, I agree. Wouldn't be right to stumble across 4-8 clips of CC ammo, even if you pulled a Gunboat on that encounter. ......................... vet wv marshal paintladder zom circuit3 paintball raceL1 race1 pvp4 hammer circuit2 pvp2 circuit1 gwped pvp5 pvp3 pvp1 deathrceL1 triangle1 combatL1 elmsautumn combat1 northernsummer1,3,0 Posted Jun 29, 2015, 3:45 am

*Boonwolf* Finger 3 Darkwind Guru Morgan Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 1,139 Joined: Mar 7, 2012 Yeah because AI would never have reloads! they scout with sharpened sticks and rubber bands. maybe if you scouted more Goat you would see is not manna. have ran 3 more scouts on trader gangs for a grand total of ........... NOTHING!!!! That's right you too can go out and loot a van full of plastic and get no coded Drop or even reloads from cars that had almost no damage. ......................... vet wv paintball paintladder ped1 race1 semiprocombat zom marshal pvp20,5,0 Posted Jun 29, 2015, 4:40 am

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,908 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 I was talking about one extra clip... The random clip... You remember.. The whole point of this thread? Sometimes I do worry about people's attention spans Here is a little snapshot of my current ammo... All gained from scouting and trade... The current quantities are just not an issue. If you can't loot enough you are not doing it right. 142 x Machine Gun Magazines 50 x Rocket Launcher Magazines 11 x Crossbow Magazines 149 x Micromissile Launcher Magazines 14 x Rocket Propelled Grenade Magazines 39 x Shotgun Magazines 2 x Mounted Mortar Magazines 41 x Car Grenade Launcher Magazines 6 x Medium Rocket Magazines 18 x Light Rocket Magazines 29 x Flamethrower Magazines 10 x Heavy Flamethrower Magazines 1 x Molotov Belt Magazines 6 x Paint Spray Magazines 19 x Paint Gun Magazines 5 x Heavy Rocket Magazines 8 x Vehicular Shotgun Magazines 45 x Gatling Gun Magazines 8 x Rifle Magazines 12 x Mine Dropper Magazines 18 x Car Rifle Magazines 10 x Heavy Machine Gun Magazines 1 x Anti Tank Gun Magazines 3 x Heavy Gatling Gun Magazines 2 x Medium Machine Gun Magazines 9 x Spike Dropper Magazines 78 x Mine Dropper Magazines 11 x Paint Gun Magazines 17 x Paint Spray Magazines 33 x Car Grenade Launcher Magazines 14 x Vehicular Shotgun Magazines 18 x Flamethrower Magazines 21 x Rocket Propelled Grenade Magazines 5 x Heavy Smokescreen Magazines 39 x Grenade Belt Magazines 14 x Shotgun Magazines 14 x Pistol Magazines 6 x Flaming Oil Jet Magazines 6 x Rifle Magazines 65 x Machine Gun Magazines 3 x Light Rocket Magazines 46 x Rocket Launcher Magazines 63 x Micromissile Launcher Magazines 2 x Car Cannon Magazines 41 x Crossbow Magazines 25 x Submachine Gun Magazines 70 x Gatling Gun Magazines 13 x Car Rifle Magazines 13 x Heavy Flaming Oil Jet Magazines 10 x Molotov Belt Magazines 10 x Paint Rifle Magazines 2 x Medium Machine Gun Magazines 159 x Machine Gun Magazines 143 x Gatling Gun Magazines 4 x Heavy Car Rifle Magazines 189 x Micromissile Launcher Magazines 2 x Molotov Belt Magazines 42 x Flamethrower Magazines 61 x Car Rifle Magazines 35 x Medium Rocket Magazines 19 x Rocket Launcher Magazines 13 x Heavy Flamethrower Magazines 21 x Crossbow Magazines 32 x Shotgun Magazines 10 x Vehicular Shotgun Magazines 11 x Light Rocket Magazines 9 x Rifle Magazines 25 x Rocket Propelled Grenade Magazines 32 x Medium Machine Gun Magazines 32 x Car Grenade Launcher Magazines 22 x Paint Gun Magazines 20 x Paint Spray Magazines 19 x Heavy Rocket Magazines 2 x Grenade Belt Magazines 3 x Napalm Gun Magazines 13 x Submachine Gun Magazines 1 x Car Rifle Magazines 15 x Anti Tank Gun Magazines 4 x Rocket Launcher Magazines 1 x Crossbow Magazines 1 x Shotgun Magazines 2 x Flamethrower Magazines 1 x Medium Rocket Magazines ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted Jun 29, 2015, 6:34 am Last edited Jun 29, 2015, 7:16 am by goat starer

*The X Man* Better Off Dead Darkwind Guru Slavers Faction Group: Game Manager Posts: 2,215 Joined: Jul 25, 2012 Just landed a Lorry and carrier van. Most of the drops were pretty standard. A bunch of MG ammo, but 2 HMG clips, 4 MD clips, and the bonus drop was 3 CC clips. Also 200+ units of fuel. ......................... vet wv marshal paintladder zom circuit3 paintball raceL1 race1 pvp4 hammer circuit2 pvp2 circuit1 gwped pvp5 pvp3 pvp1 deathrceL1 triangle1 combatL1 elmsautumn combat1 northernsummer1,3,0 Posted Jun 29, 2015, 9:27 am

*Boonwolf* Finger 3 Darkwind Guru Morgan Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 1,139 Joined: Mar 7, 2012 goat starer said: I was talking about one extra clip... The random clip... You remember.. The whole point of this thread? Sometimes I do worry about people's attention spans    yeah so am I Sometimes I do worry about peoples reading comprehension  The point I was making was not about mech ammo modifier. It was the fact that for me at least the extra magazines have not been dropping from loot. ......................... vet wv paintball paintladder ped1 race1 semiprocombat zom marshal pvp20,5,0 Posted Jun 29, 2015, 11:16 am

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,908 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 *Boonwolf* said: goat starer said: I was talking about one extra clip... The random clip... You remember.. The whole point of this thread? Sometimes I do worry about people's attention spans    yeah so am I Sometimes I do worry about peoples reading comprehension  The point I was making was not about mech ammo modifier. It was the fact that for me at least the extra magazines have not been dropping from loot. The AI has reloads... If you didn't shoot them up in a talentless orgy of wasteful play they would drop. The idea that sam has to make additional code to allow idiots to loot ammo even when they failed miserably to preserve the stuff the AI was carrying is just another step towards stopping scav being a hardcore mode and making it another moronic collectathon like regular. How about we also introduce code whereby there is a chance that a car turns into a better car at the loot screen? I am seriously starting to wish x had not started playing scav. It means we get changes that are completely counter to the point based on his very limited play experience. ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted Jun 29, 2015, 4:43 pm Last edited Jun 29, 2015, 4:46 pm by goat starer

*The X Man* Better Off Dead Darkwind Guru Slavers Faction Group: Game Manager Posts: 2,215 Joined: Jul 25, 2012 *Boonwolf* said: goat starer said: I was talking about one extra clip... The random clip... You remember.. The whole point of this thread? Sometimes I do worry about people's attention spans    yeah so am I Sometimes I do worry about peoples reading comprehension  The point I was making was not about mech ammo modifier. It was the fact that for me at least the extra magazines have not been dropping from loot. I had that same issue Boon. But like I said earlier, I believe it was from cargo being damaged during the encounter. The Lorry that was looted was done with the help of K1500. K managed to get the much needed stress on the last car that was knocking me around. Letting that last car go at that point saved a lot of loot, and my car lol. Its been harder in Scav scouts trying not zero out vehicles to save loot and preserve weapons of value. Sometimes you are gonna have to take those extra hits to increase your chances at getting that extra loot. ......................... vet wv marshal paintladder zom circuit3 paintball raceL1 race1 pvp4 hammer circuit2 pvp2 circuit1 gwped pvp5 pvp3 pvp1 deathrceL1 triangle1 combatL1 elmsautumn combat1 northernsummer1,3,0 Posted Jun 29, 2015, 5:00 pm

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