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When I logged off, the chat was full of Adolf Hitler and Joseph Goebbels. Can something be done against offensive nickname, either pre-emptively (having gang and player name validated by a human) or as a contention measure (adding power and duty to the Marshals to act as moderator and remove/change/ban offenders ?).
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Posted Nov 8, 2014, 10:33 pm
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Ivan Kerensky said:
When I logged off, the chat was full of Adolf Hitler and Joseph Goebbels. Can something be done against offensive nickname, either pre-emptively (having gang and player name validated by a human) or as a contention measure (adding power and duty to the Marshals to act as moderator and remove/change/ban offenders ?).


Saw that when I was browsing the events diary, instantly logged back into the game to see the event but they players weren't logged in. Those names are certainly against the TOS. If you see such things IM one of the Marshals (those with * around their names) and they can boot the players from the game (after advising them about TOS breaches of course). Only *Sam* has the ability to actually ban and change names currently.

We've had a few people trolling the game with such names previously, would not be surprised if it's someone who had previously been warned and/or booted.

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Posted Nov 8, 2014, 11:00 pm
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Doesn't really bother me, in fact, I like it when retards self identify. It informs me on how I respond to them without actually having to getting to know them.
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Posted Nov 9, 2014, 3:50 pm
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I would bet it's the same guys as before. That Gobbles guy has the same name on Steam and when I reported it to Steam (as it's also against their TOS) they allowed him to keep that name. They also allowed him to keep his Steam Avatar which was a picture of the "albrich Macht Frei" slogan thingy over Auchwitz (and other camps). Sorry if I misspelled it. I'm not a German speaker.

I really wish Marshals had the power to Flag the names and have the lobby automaticly display jibberish letters like "@$&?&@$" instead until Sam could do his part and change it or ban them if they decline a change.
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Posted Nov 9, 2014, 9:30 pm
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nothing can be done as long as quisling marshals (cough cough crispin cough) spend 20 minutes posting racist terms in the lobby in the name of 'education' and Sam keeps allowing nazis to change their names rather than banning them.

that post by crispin above is the height of disingenuous puffery. Disgraceful.

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Posted Nov 9, 2014, 9:33 pm Last edited Nov 9, 2014, 9:34 pm by goat starer
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*K1500* said:
If you see such things IM one of the Marshals (those with * around their names) and they can boot the players from the game (after advising them about TOS breaches of course). 


what a load of absolute tosh... 2 marshals refused to boot a character only a few days ago. Face it,, this place has lobby moderation that is totally unfit for purpose. half the marshals probably think that stuff is funny because any child who supported the steam launch got stars.

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Posted Nov 9, 2014, 9:37 pm
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goat starer said:
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If you see such things IM one of the Marshals (those with * around their names) and they can boot the players from the game (after advising them about TOS breaches of course). 


what a load of absolute tosh... 2 marshals refused to boot a character only a few days ago. Face it,, this place has lobby moderation that is totally unfit for purpose. half the marshals probably think that stuff is funny because any child who supported the steam launch got stars.



Well I can't speak for the other Marshals as I'm quite new to the group. However when I saw an event with those two user names (I was looking at event diary through the website) I immediately logged into the client to deal with it - the players were no longer present in the lobby. As I understand it X booted them from the lobby multiple times before they finally relented and didn't log back in. Personally I have no trouble with booting players with names like this (i.e. intentionally intended to be offensive).

In terms of your little hissy fit about who got marshal status I'll clarify that I am not on Steam (nor will ever be so) and was ASKED if I would become a Marshal after other players had recommended me. Other players have taken snipes at me over my Marshal status (based on actions by others) and I'll tell you what I told them - if you want me to hand in my Marshal status then just say so and I will.

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Posted Nov 9, 2014, 10:55 pm
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**Tosh** (excrement) is an offensive word where I live.
**Puffery** (homosexual butt sex) is also offensive

How do you put up with tolls like this gooberpunt? No wonder I don't play this. I was going to try it again but nope, im gone.

Posted Nov 9, 2014, 10:57 pm
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*K1500* said:
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If you see such things IM one of the Marshals (those with * around their names) and they can boot the players from the game (after advising them about TOS breaches of course). 


what a load of absolute tosh... 2 marshals refused to boot a character only a few days ago. Face it,, this place has lobby moderation that is totally unfit for purpose. half the marshals probably think that stuff is funny because any child who supported the steam launch got stars.



Well I can't speak for the other Marshals as I'm quite new to the group. However when I saw an event with those two user names (I was looking at event diary through the website) I immediately logged into the client to deal with it - the players were no longer present in the lobby. As I understand it X booted them from the lobby multiple times before they finally relented and didn't log back in. Personally I have no trouble with booting players with names like this (i.e. intentionally intended to be offensive).

In terms of your little hissy fit about who got marshal status I'll clarify that I am not on Steam (nor will ever be so) and was ASKED if I would become a Marshal after other players had recommended me. Other players have taken snipes at me over my Marshal status (based on actions by others) and I'll tell you what I told them - if you want me to hand in my Marshal status then just say so and I will.

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I don't have any problem with you as one whatsoever... and i made no comment about you. I have problems with people who won't act when faced by blatant racism, foul language and all the things that turn the lobby into an unpleasant place to be... not those who do.

if any small disagreement happens in the lobby there is some sort of massive show of marshal muscles.... log in with a name that stands for the murder of 7 million jews and my grandfathers best friend and everyone suddenly goes away.

don't take it so personally... i made no comment on your behaviour and it sounds to me like you did the right thing. If you think pointing out that making marshals of people who have long track records of posting racist nonsense in the lobby is a "hissy fit" then i respectfully disagree.
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Posted Nov 9, 2014, 11:01 pm Last edited Nov 9, 2014, 11:02 pm by goat starer
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If you see such things IM one of the Marshals (those with * around their names) and they can boot the players from the game (after advising them about TOS breaches of course). 


what a load of absolute tosh... 2 marshals refused to boot a character only a few days ago. Face it,, this place has lobby moderation that is totally unfit for purpose. half the marshals probably think that stuff is funny because any child who supported the steam launch got stars.



Well I can't speak for the other Marshals as I'm quite new to the group. However when I saw an event with those two user names (I was looking at event diary through the website) I immediately logged into the client to deal with it - the players were no longer present in the lobby. As I understand it X booted them from the lobby multiple times before they finally relented and didn't log back in. Personally I have no trouble with booting players with names like this (i.e. intentionally intended to be offensive).

In terms of your little hissy fit about who got marshal status I'll clarify that I am not on Steam (nor will ever be so) and was ASKED if I would become a Marshal after other players had recommended me. Other players have taken snipes at me over my Marshal status (based on actions by others) and I'll tell you what I told them - if you want me to hand in my Marshal status then just say so and I will.

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I don't have any problem with you as one whatsoever... and i made no comment about you. I have problems with people who won't act when faced by blatant racism, foul language and all the things that turn the lobby into an unpleasant place to be... not those who do.

if any small disagreement happens in the lobby there is some sort of massive show of marshal muscles.... log in with a name that stands for the murder of 7 million jews and my grandfathers best friend and everyone suddenly goes away.

don't take it so personally... i made no comment on your behaviour and it sounds to me like you did the right thing. If you think pointing out that making marshals of people who have long track records of posting racist nonsense in the lobby is a "hissy fit" then i respectfully disagree.


Fair enough Goat - I was not aware of anyone with a long history of posting racist material in the lobby, but I'm not going to doubt your experiences with certain players.

Perhaps my reaction was due to the fact that you were directly quoting me (i.e. a reply which is thus specifically aim at me) and I've had players also level complaints about Marshal recruitment to me after the actions of others (I'm not going to say whom).

Either way it should be a no-brainer that if someone logs in with name such as the two in question they should get an instant boot. Some events are so well known that there shouldn't be any question if they are offensive or not.

My main point however was that an IM to a Marshal should be the first course of action in these events - and having had a complaint from a player the Marshal SHOULD respond to that directly (as this means it's not a question of if the Marshal finds it offensive, they've been told someone finds it offensive).

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Posted Nov 9, 2014, 11:15 pm
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Your numbers are incorrect.

Pre-war Jewish population was 8.86 million across all of Europe and Russia combined.

"The War Against the Jews, Bantam, 1986) lists the death toll at 5.93 million if you include the 1.5 million killed by the Russians or as casualties resultant from the war in Russia.

The Jewish website YadVashem estimates it at only 2.67 million with additional deaths bringing it to 4.78 million.

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Posted Nov 9, 2014, 11:16 pm
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Additionally your personal attacks on me are getting old. You spout a racial slur, get called on it, then go off about Nazis while someone try's to explain to you what the words you used mean and comparative examples to avoid.

It seems you do that so you don't have to listen. Is Sam wants my stars, Sam can take them. I don't get paid enough to deal with you throwing a tantrum.

And to avoid any furthur insults aimed my way, or a flame war, I'm locking this.
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Posted Nov 9, 2014, 11:23 pm
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