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Darkwind changes coming up!, Steam release in a few months

Juris Hessians Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 1,706 Joined: Sep 16, 2010 *sam* said: I couldn't agree more. Although there's no server reset planned (and hence the rewards you suggest aren't necessary), I am working on a system for 'open access' scouts, where your squad has no password and where you get a leadership boost for bringing new players scouting. If we slay them do we get younger? ......................... vet wv pvp1 pvp5 pvp4 race1 zom pvp2 deathrce1 pvp3 combat1 Posted May 14, 2014, 4:46 pm

Grimm Sykes Sand xbzyas Darkwind Guru Merchants Faction Group: Banned Posts: 1,372 Joined: Mar 14, 2010 what about a 3 tier system. Tier 1: free to play but you can't leave SS Tier 2: same as 1, but your able to travel in the northern triangle and to morgan Tier 3: full evan access to all towns. And add incentive to go south, like a medic at the truckstops, maybe some sort of training center without having to go to the ends of the earth. If the truckstops are the hubs of commerce and trade, wouldn't that be where schools and medicine help would be located? I'm not saying to move Elmsfield or change anything there, it's just odd theres no "services" in the central area. ......................... vet wv pvp5 pvp4 Posted May 14, 2014, 5:23 pm

PA Racers PA Racers Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Subscribers Posts: 1,005 Joined: Feb 11, 2010 What happens to older gangs when their subs drop? Will they loose gangers or vehicles? Also think it may be good for the non-subs to at least be able to use re-hab, as that seems to be one of the biggest complaints I hear from returning players is that half their gang needs re-hab when they return. Mabie new first aid spec/ drug counselor spec? Will non-subs be able to assign specs? How will non-subs competing in race/DR/Combat leagues effect points gained? Will non-subs be able to enter league events out of the triangle? Would like to see non-subs be able to use camps, but with some limits mabie, just dont let their mech's work. Mabie just let them be able to repair, and be able to donate. Not sure how I feel about use of camp markets. Could we use hard cash to hire/rent npc mech's to work at a camp? What happens to non-subs gangers if the get sent to the pit? Will camps be able to make some of the items not currently available to be made at camp? Just some questions/thoughts I had. ......................... vet wv ww northernsummer gwextrav gateautumn raceL1 race1 elmsautumn deathrceL1 e2g santa1 paintladder paintball pvp1 pvp4 pvp3 deathrce1 pvp2 combat1 circuit2 circuit3 circuit1 pvp528,161,23 Posted May 14, 2014, 6:54 pm

Krakhedd FAQ Crew Autodueller Morgan Faction Group: Subscribers Posts: 351 Joined: Aug 19, 2012 I know it's been brought up before, but perhaps incorporate the "unlockable maps" concept into this, too? EDIT: Whichever way it goes, I would like to see new towns and new maps - it's not like there's not enough room on the map of Evan to fit additional towns. Plus, Sarsfield's description includes discussion of southern ports...??? Maybe new continents available? ......................... vet wv raceL1 pvp3 paintball9,2,9 Posted May 14, 2014, 7:19 pm Last edited May 14, 2014, 7:22 pm by Krakhedd

*Marc5iver* 5ive Crew Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 1,354 Joined: Oct 10, 2008 I had been pretty inactive for a couple months and the thing I noticed upon coming back recently is the lack of stock races/death races in the client. Newbs will not have the resources to compete in custom events and will not be experienced enough to set up their own events. Not sure what the reason for limited stock events was but it might be helpful to put more of them back up. I know races and death races are where I got a lot of my initial experience. 55555 ......................... vet wv gwextrav e2g marshal pvp4 pvp3 pvp2 Posted May 14, 2014, 10:32 pm

Joel Autobaun Joels Bastards Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Sinbinned Posts: 4,598 Joined: Nov 10, 2008 *sam* said: musashi_san said: does Quote: Some rebalancing of specs mean nerfing sniper? and if so can we respec? What I generally want to do is reduce the massive gulf between highspecc'd gangers and lowespecc'd ones. It's not good for gameplay when one player can snooze on a hilltop and pick off the enemy from 250m while that enemy has no hope of hitting at more than 100m. I'm not saying there shouldn't be a substantial difference between skilled and unskilled gangers, merely that it shouldn't be quite as huge as it currently is. I will stay out of this - this time - I look forward to what comes of this.  You really need to understand what a young gang can do to an old, geriatric, SLOW, sharp shooting gang, when you are looking at rebalanceing.  That is all I will say. ......................... vet northernsummer deathrce1 raceL1 deathrceL1 ww ped1 sssc paintball semiprocombat ped2 e2g gwextrav gwped combat1 paintladder elmsautumn gateautumn wv race1 combatL1 pvp1 pvp5 pvp4 zom pvp3 circuit1 pvp2 circuit2 circuit3 ss2fl67 slay2013 storm2013 geek triangle198,96,31 Posted May 15, 2014, 3:17 am

*Longo* Longos Merry Men Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 6,659 Joined: Dec 15, 2007 Very good point Joel. ......................... vet combatL1 ped1 paintladder semiprocombat ped2 wv pvp4 pvp1 gwped paintball pvp3 pvp5 slay2013 marshal circuit2 combat1 e2g raceL1 gwextrav gateautumn pvp2 triangle1 Posted May 15, 2014, 2:08 pm

*The X Man* Better Off Dead Darkwind Guru Slavers Faction Group: Game Manager Posts: 2,207 Joined: Jul 25, 2012 Joel's point now makes more sense to me now after playing DW for awhile and having characters that were noobish and up to a multi spec ganger. Once your health and speed decrease to old age, they will be more vulnerable to new or old players. It took a long time to earn all those specs and I see the concern how nerfing the effectiveness would negate a lot of game time training. Maybe it is the actual training that needs tweaking instead of the effectiveness of the spec. Sniper seems to be the most used and powerful weapons spec. So, instead of nerfing, what if it was restricted to just gunnery and hang guns? If that was changed, maybe add an additional Large Gun spec (Long Range Targets) that would increase ranged attacks for large gunners. This would divide the specialisms between the 2 gun types. That would mean a ganger, to be effective at range in both guns, would have less specs per gun type. This is kind of "self-nerfing" by players choice. This, IMO, would bring a little more balance to character skills between new and old players. It would allow those new players a better survival rate when going up against veteran players because ranged attacks would be coming from smaller weapons or at a closer distance. This topic has been discussed before, but with the relaunch coming, maybe this would be the better way to change specs for the player base as a whole. Your guys thoughts on this?? EDIT: One last thought before nerfing. As a last resort, leave the effectiveness as is, just put a cap to how many specs you can earn. Maybe a cap at 4?? These are just thoughts because I feel there will be a change made. This is just a way to get other player's views on this subject. ......................... vet wv marshal paintladder zom circuit3 paintball raceL1 race1 pvp4 hammer circuit2 pvp2 circuit1 gwped pvp5 pvp3 pvp1 deathrceL1 triangle1 combatL1 elmsautumn combat1 northernsummer1,3,0 Posted May 15, 2014, 6:35 pm

Juris Hessians Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 1,706 Joined: Sep 16, 2010 Specs need rebalancing. If we can restore abilities lost through aging with Sambucks then it doesn't matter ......................... vet wv pvp1 pvp5 pvp4 race1 zom pvp2 deathrce1 pvp3 combat1 Posted May 15, 2014, 6:56 pm

*DoubleTap* The Ghosts Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 895 Joined: Jul 13, 2007 *The X Man* said: Maybe it is the actual training that needs tweaking instead of the effectiveness of the spec. Sniper seems to be the most used and powerful weapons spec. So, instead of nerfing, what if it was restricted to just gunnery and hang guns? If that was changed, maybe add an additional Large Gun spec (Long Range Targets) that would increase ranged attacks for large gunners. This would divide the specialisms between the 2 gun types. That would mean a ganger, to be effective at range in both guns, would have less specs per gun type. This is kind of "self-nerfing" by players choice. This, IMO, would bring a little more balance to character skills between new and old players. It would allow those new players a better survival rate when going up against veteran players because ranged attacks would be coming from smaller weapons or at a closer distance. Good idea, this. ......................... vet marshal wv Posted May 15, 2014, 7:44 pm

Jety Cuddle Fiesta Darkwind Guru Badlands Truckstop Faction Group: Members Posts: 910 Joined: May 9, 2008 *The X Man* said: Maybe it is the actual training that needs tweaking instead of the effectiveness of the spec. Sniper seems to be the most used and powerful weapons spec. So, instead of nerfing, what if it was restricted to just gunnery and hang guns? This seems pretty reasonable to me too. ......................... vet wv Posted May 15, 2014, 9:03 pm

iceman Sock Monkey Killaz Darkwind Guru Civs Faction Group: Members Posts: 924 Joined: May 13, 2009 It will be nice to have big group scouts again, that was the aspect of DW i liked best However if the lobby gets regularly to triple figures *swoon* i predict that in-town events will turn into the vicious knifefights that some players always wanted Not the place for 40+ multi-specced gangers ......................... vet wv Posted May 15, 2014, 9:58 pm

Krakhedd FAQ Crew Autodueller Morgan Faction Group: Subscribers Posts: 351 Joined: Aug 19, 2012 Quick thought - rear-guns will be next to impossible w/o uber-gunners if sniper spec is reduced too much - perhaps, reduce the rear-gunned penalty? ......................... vet wv raceL1 pvp3 paintball9,2,9 Posted May 15, 2014, 10:02 pm

iceman Sock Monkey Killaz Darkwind Guru Civs Faction Group: Members Posts: 924 Joined: May 13, 2009 *The X Man* said: Joel's point now makes more sense to me now after playing DW for awhile and having characters that were noobish and up to a multi spec ganger. Once your health and speed decrease to old age, they will be more vulnerable to new or old players. This, IMO, would bring a little more balance to character skills between new and old players. I have an old gang because I hadn't played for 3 years and the difference in firing first if you can hit is very large with the right weapon Old characters don't get to fire first, specs or not The fact is the old gangs will be quite vulnerable to lucky shots  in any sort of balanced pvp play once the stacking of specialisms is reduced outside of the wilderness where the distances are smaller ......................... vet wv Posted May 15, 2014, 10:05 pm

Bolt Thrower Quantum Symphony Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 727 Joined: Sep 12, 2013 Since I have never had good characters and I pretty much stink at PVP, I really can't say a lot. But it feels like my only chance is to turn things into a dogfight. Except for car rifles with my 3 best gangers, I can rarely hit outside of 50m against an unspecced driver. Where as, I get tagged by NPC's and PC's at 100m+. On some maps, this is not a big issue, as terrain can save you. On some maps, you might as well set the car on fire yourself and walk away. Maybe I will feel differently when I, the player, get better. ......................... vet wv northernsummer1,92,1 Posted May 15, 2014, 11:28 pm

*StCrispin* Beasts of the Lair Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,657 Joined: Feb 13, 2012 Don't feel bad Bolt. I've been here longer than X or Krak (yet less than Snipe) and I STILL do most of my fighting at 64m or closer. Personally I would rather have a slow skilled guy than a fast newer character and even then use terrain and dogfighting and getting in close and aggressive to offset anything an opponent will use against me. AI or Player. Although m not as good in PvP as I would like. ......................... vet wv gwped paintladder paintball marshal raceL10,1,0 Posted May 16, 2014, 3:27 am

Racing Robbie The White Ashes Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 761 Joined: Jul 3, 2012 *DoubleTap* said: *The X Man* said: Maybe it is the actual training that needs tweaking instead of the effectiveness of the spec. Sniper seems to be the most used and powerful weapons spec. So, instead of nerfing, what if it was restricted to just gunnery and hang guns? If that was changed, maybe add an additional Large Gun spec (Long Range Targets) that would increase ranged attacks for large gunners. This would divide the specialisms between the 2 gun types. That would mean a ganger, to be effective at range in both guns, would have less specs per gun type. This is kind of "self-nerfing" by players choice. This, IMO, would bring a little more balance to character skills between new and old players. It would allow those new players a better survival rate when going up against veteran players because ranged attacks would be coming from smaller weapons or at a closer distance. Good idea, this. +1 on this ......................... vet wv northernsummer e2g raceL1 deathrceL1 slay2013 pvp3 ww pvp1 semiprocombat0,1,0 Posted May 16, 2014, 10:02 am

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 PA Racers said: What happens to older gangs when their subs drop? Will they loose gangers or vehicles? No, they will just be unable to hire/buy new ones until they get their number down. ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted May 16, 2014, 10:45 am

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 Thanks for the suggestions on spec rebalancing/training etc. I'll bear this all in mind, and I think the sensible thing to do would be to trial and tweak a bit over the summer in order to get it right. ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted May 16, 2014, 10:48 am

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,907 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 i think you should play a bit! ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted May 16, 2014, 3:21 pm

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