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CoE2 - 'real' standings?

*Brunwulf* Wulf Guard Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 1,299 Joined: May 17, 2012 As far as my meagre brain can work out on a piece of paper, the 'Adjusted' CoE2 league standings should be: Blood and Iron : 108 Joels Bastards : 92 Blue Giants : 82 The Darkside : 45 Bujinkan : 43 f-Bombs : 33 Swordstroke E : 24 These are going to get a bit messy after the final, 2nd/1st GW event is played. TO *SAM* - Can we have a definate answer as to whether players who entered the late GW race, but didn't score, can Enter the final GW race for the average pointsof the 2 races? Many thanks, Cheers. ......................... vet ww wv e2g gwextrav sssc northernsummer gateautumn deathrce1 marshal race1 raceL1 combat1 pvp5 pvp4 pvp3 pvp20,1,0 Posted Dec 17, 2012, 5:50 pm Last edited Dec 17, 2012, 5:55 pm by Brunwulf

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,513 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 From what I remember, it was asked that people that already took part in that event, please don't do so again. The event was created for those that missed out due to the server oops, If you already had the event and failed to score or scored poorly, that should be a no to retaking it again. If i get that question right. ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,1 Posted Dec 17, 2012, 9:25 pm

Necrotech Vendetta Inc. Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Members Posts: 1,872 Joined: Jul 18, 2011 That absolutely makes no sense... Just like if a person scored poorly in one they can take the other. Or if they are blocking somebody in points, they are allow, how is this one any different ? *Bastille* said: From what I remember, it was asked that people that already took part in that event, please don't do so again.  The event was created for those that missed out due to the server oops,  If you already had the event and failed to score or scored poorly, that should be a no to retaking it again. If i get that question right. ......................... vet wv santa1 deathrceL1 pvp4 gwped raceL1 combatL1 paintladder pvp3 ped2 pvp5 semiprocombat circuit2 pvp1 pvp2 slay2013 gwextrav triangle1 Posted Dec 17, 2012, 11:33 pm Last edited Dec 17, 2012, 11:34 pm by Necrotech

*StCrispin* Beasts of the Lair Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,657 Joined: Feb 13, 2012 Bastille; you are correct. Thats how Sam worded it and I think thats how he meant it to be. BUT Necro: I agree with your point and think asking those who lost/scored-poorly would be discrimated against unfairly if we prevented their entry. I think the issue is that the final GW event is being seen as an aditional week and the server would not average it or reduce it in any way, thus unfairly benefiting those who DNF or scored badly. SAM: is it possible to allow these people to participate and.then have the point standings manually calculated by one or more people (a comitte maybe? RC maybe? Make 'em work!) ......................... vet wv gwped paintladder paintball marshal raceL10,1,0 Posted Dec 18, 2012, 12:58 am Last edited Dec 18, 2012, 1:00 am by StCrispin

Necrotech Vendetta Inc. Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Members Posts: 1,872 Joined: Jul 18, 2011 actually pretty damned simple really.. take both GW events of same type (COE I and COE I) average them out.. post for score.. it happens already. ......................... vet wv santa1 deathrceL1 pvp4 gwped raceL1 combatL1 paintladder pvp3 ped2 pvp5 semiprocombat circuit2 pvp1 pvp2 slay2013 gwextrav triangle1 Posted Dec 18, 2012, 1:35 am Last edited Dec 18, 2012, 3:52 pm by Necrotech

*StCrispin* Beasts of the Lair Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,657 Joined: Feb 13, 2012 So what is being displayed on the league page? Score without GW? If thats the case then thats the "real" score since some of us have yet to complete our event. The other (score counting GW) is more of a ghost score so to speak... Where people might be at the end of the season.. Example would be me. My score is 24 but if I had been in a GW event it could be as high as 44 (however unlikely a 1st place may be for me with who I usually race against. I doubt I have more than 6 wins, counting ones ive given away by parking at the finish, over all of my seasons) So what are we seeing on the page? Anyone know? ......................... vet wv gwped paintladder paintball marshal raceL10,1,0 Posted Dec 18, 2012, 2:56 am Last edited Dec 18, 2012, 2:58 am by StCrispin

*Brunwulf* Wulf Guard Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 1,299 Joined: May 17, 2012 After advice from Lord Foul, The way I understand it is......... Because the server was offline for the 1st GW event, It then took the 2nd GW event to be the 1st GW event. The next week, the server played out the 1st BL event- BUT THEN COUNTED IT AS THE 2ND GW EVENT, AND AVERAGED OUT THE SCORES That is- the average score betweeen GW2 and BL1 For Instance: I played the 2nd GW event, but I didn't finish. Next week I won the 1st BL event. Obviously, I didn't enter the 2nd BL event, but by the end of the weeekend, I had scored 10 points on the league table. (I also won the BL CoE3 event- and dropped 2 points down the table by monday morning!) Lord Foul has said in another post somewhere to play out the rest of the league out as normal, and SAM would adjust the scores at the end of the season. This is why I don't understand why everyone can't enter the GW2 event? Can you confirm this please SAM? Cheers. ......................... vet ww wv e2g gwextrav sssc northernsummer gateautumn deathrce1 marshal race1 raceL1 combat1 pvp5 pvp4 pvp3 pvp20,1,0 Posted Dec 18, 2012, 8:43 am Last edited Dec 18, 2012, 9:43 am by Brunwulf

*Brunwulf* Wulf Guard Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 1,299 Joined: May 17, 2012 I forgot to add.... The scores that I worked out above, are the MAXIMUM scores those listed can be on. Some might be on lower scores due to things I couldn't work out due to the 'Player Details Hidden' on entry sheets. The best thing to do is go back and work out your own scores and keep track. EG: Since BL weekend, I have done only 1 race every week, and always the first race (which the server thinks is the 2nd race of the PREVIOUS weekend) Therefore, my league table score is exactly 10 points down because of the GW2/BL1 average. I have no other cross event average outs. Things are going to more complicated for players who have entered both events, or an early race one weekend- then a late race the next weekend, or the other way round! Everything I have posted on this thread is TOTALLY my own workings out of things- please don't give me any grief if I have got all this a bit wrong! I wouldn't mind it getting cleared up before deciding what to risk sending over to Morgan and FL though! ......................... vet ww wv e2g gwextrav sssc northernsummer gateautumn deathrce1 marshal race1 raceL1 combat1 pvp5 pvp4 pvp3 pvp20,1,0 Posted Dec 18, 2012, 9:31 am Last edited Dec 18, 2012, 9:51 am by Brunwulf

*The X Man* Better Off Dead Darkwind Guru Slavers Faction Group: Game Manager Posts: 2,207 Joined: Jul 25, 2012 I just say play out the remainder of the season as you normally would. Enter your race and go. Eventually the missing race will be run, the standings will be sorted and then prizes/cash will be awarded accordingly. I am not going to get a migraine trying to calculate out all possible standing point totals to determine my next course of action. I will play the races out the same way I do every week. Sure it makes a difference knowing exact standings before a race, especially at the end of the season. So if this is a concern for everybody I will make this proposal. Everybody goes through their own point totals and posts them here in this thread. Once all players have submitted their point totals, we make a revised standing and keep it up to date throughout the rest of the season. Here are my point totals for COE2 DNP = Did Not Participate DNF = Did Not Finish Somerset 1 - 2nd place 16 points Somerset 2 - DNP Elmsfield 1 - 3rd place 13 points Elmsfield 2 - DNP Gateway 1 - Server Down Gateway 2 - DNP Badlands 1 - 3rd place 13 points Badlands 2 - DNP Texan 1 - DNF Texan 2 - DNF Sarsfield 1 - DNF Sarsfield 2 - DNP Current Point Total 42 If everyone wishes to do this, I will volunteer to keep the remainder of the seasons standings, any objections?? ......................... vet wv marshal paintladder zom circuit3 paintball raceL1 race1 pvp4 hammer circuit2 pvp2 circuit1 gwped pvp5 pvp3 pvp1 deathrceL1 triangle1 combatL1 elmsautumn combat1 northernsummer1,3,0 Posted Dec 18, 2012, 6:44 pm

*StCrispin* Beasts of the Lair Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,657 Joined: Feb 13, 2012 wow, yeah Brun I see how messy it is now.  ugh. For the Record:  My points are currently accurate at 24 for CoE II I have scored an 11 and a 13 I have not participated in a GW event so I plan to attend the end of season make-up if I have a car.  At minimum I will be there for CoE III ......................... vet wv gwped paintladder paintball marshal raceL10,1,0 Posted Dec 19, 2012, 12:33 am Last edited Dec 19, 2012, 12:38 am by StCrispin

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,513 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 The X Man said: I just say play out the remainder of the season as you normally would. Enter your race and go. Eventually the missing race will be run, the standings will be sorted and then prizes/cash will be awarded accordingly. I am not going to get a migraine trying to calculate out all possible standing point totals to determine my next course of action. I will play the races out the same way I do every week. That sounds sensible. The current rounding should be ignored, and that will be fixed come the score recount. If you turn up even though you attended already (which will be on record) the new score can obviously not be counted. ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,1 Posted Dec 19, 2012, 1:16 am

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,513 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 Necrotech said: That absolutely makes no sense... Just like if a person scored poorly in one they can take the other. Or if they are blocking somebody in points, they are allow, how is this one any different ? *Bastille* said: From what I remember, it was asked that people that already took part in that event, please don't do so again.  The event was created for those that missed out due to the server oops,  If you already had the event and failed to score or scored poorly, that should be a no to retaking it again. If i get that question right. yeah fair point, don't know where to go with that. ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,1 Posted Dec 19, 2012, 1:18 am

Necrotech Vendetta Inc. Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Members Posts: 1,872 Joined: Jul 18, 2011 I have seen a discrepancy After doing the the totals for COE I, it shows me @ 76 however, based on the scores from the COE I score listing (shown below), it shows me at 89. Which is well with striking distance for first place, and the end GW event would be exceptionally helpful, if not outright required. COE I ==== Points ===== Avg == Total of averages SS <-------> 11 <------> 13 --------- 89 SS <-------> 16 <------> EL <-------> 11 <------> 11 EL <-------> DNP GW <------> TBD GW <------> 16 <------> 16 BL <-------> DNP BL <-------> 13 <------> 13 TX <-------> 20 <------> 20 TX <-------> DNP SF <-------> DNP SF <-------> 16 <------> 16 MO <------> TBD MO <------> TBD FL <-------> TBD FL <-------> TBD SV <------> TBD SV <------> TBD COE II ======== Points === Avg === Total of averages SS <------> 20 <------> 20 ----------- 108 SS <------> DNP <------> EL <------> DNP <------> EL <------> 16 <------> 16 GW <------> TBD <------> GW <------> 20 <------> 20 BL <------> DNP <------> BL <------> 16 <------> 16 TX <------> 13 <------> 16 TX <------> 20 <------> -- SF <------> 20 <------> 20 SF <------> DNP <------> MO <------> TBD <------> MO <-----> TBD <------> FL <------> TBD <------> FL <------> TBD <------> SV <------> TBD <------> SV <------> TBD <------> ......................... vet wv santa1 deathrceL1 pvp4 gwped raceL1 combatL1 paintladder pvp3 ped2 pvp5 semiprocombat circuit2 pvp1 pvp2 slay2013 gwextrav triangle1 Posted Dec 19, 2012, 1:46 am Last edited Dec 19, 2012, 2:25 am by Necrotech

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