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Just a quick announcement about some handweapon tweaks that will be patched in tomorrow:

Rocket propelled grenade (RPG) - a new weapon - basically a single-shot ped-deployed light rocket
Rifle - ammo reduced to 12
SMG is now a rapidfire weapon, the same as Gatlings - firing twice per turn. Ammo increased to 24, per-shot damage reduced (since there's now 2 shots). Ranged accuracy slightly improved.
Shotgun - substantially improved damage, but it reduces quickly over distance (to represent the cone of fire). Ranged accuracy improved. Ammo reduced to 4.
Pistol - ammo increased to 12. Can be fired while running with no accuracy loss (due to light weight)
Molotov - rather than only leaving a pool of flaming oil, it will now cause some direct damage and splash damage on hitting


Thanks to the various players who advised on these changes :-)
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Posted Jul 24, 2012, 6:52 pm
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*sam* said:
Rocket propelled grenade (RPG) - a new weapon - basically a single-shot ped-deployed light rocket
[Thanks to the various players who advised on these changes :-)


No, no, thank YOU!!!
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Posted Jul 24, 2012, 7:02 pm
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Sam, I know you guys in the UK don't have easy access to the fun firearms we do here in the colonies, but I gotta say...

I don't know ANYONE with a puny 12 shot mag for their assault rifle.
And I know a LOT of people with assault rifles. ;)


The RPG is a nice addition though!!!!! Sweet!!!!!!
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Posted Jul 24, 2012, 7:12 pm
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The Reverend makes an excellent point. If it's a semi auto and it's clip fed, it's at least a 20 and more likely a 30. (If it's bolt action, it's probably more like 5, but I am not advocating that, that's fore sure.)
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Posted Jul 24, 2012, 7:14 pm
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*Rev. V* said:
Sam, I know you guys in the UK don't have easy access to the fun firearms we do here in the colonies, but I gotta say...

I don't know ANYONE with a puny 12 shot mag for their assault rifle.
And I know a LOT of people with assault rifles. ;)


The RPG is a nice addition though!!!!! Sweet!!!!!!
Just imgaine it's a garand with 4 extra magic bullets or something  :rolleyes:
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Posted Jul 24, 2012, 7:32 pm Last edited Jul 24, 2012, 7:33 pm by FireFly
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Or you could pretend it's one of these

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishapore_2A1_rifle
10 or 12- round magazine, loaded with 5-round charger clips

You just have to imagine that Darkwind is set in... India, lul  :rolleyes:
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Posted Jul 24, 2012, 7:36 pm Last edited Jul 24, 2012, 7:37 pm by FireFly
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I don't think it's an assault rifle.. more like a sniper rifle. I don't know weapons as well as you fine Americans.. ;-)

Anyhow, it's about balance and gameplay above all else.
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Posted Jul 24, 2012, 7:36 pm
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Hmmm. Maybe an SKS. Have to look up how much that had in the clip.

Edit: Or a Dragunov. Those those things are cool.
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Posted Jul 24, 2012, 7:36 pm Last edited Jul 24, 2012, 7:37 pm by *DoubleTap*
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*sam* said:
I don't think it's an assault rifle.. more like a sniper rifle. I don't know weapons as well as you fine Americans.. ;-)

Anyhow, it's about balance and gameplay above all else.


Exactly right

Game balance > 'realism' - this isn't Call of Duty

Great job Sam :)
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Posted Jul 24, 2012, 7:40 pm
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*sam* said:
I don't think it's an assault rifle.. more like a sniper rifle.
Sam, for your own sanity please stick to "Bolt action" or something along those lines from now on, else people might ask why the range on their sniper rifle is so short and why it's missing a scope :cyclops:

Edit: Or I guess battle rifle could be applicable, older ones like Garands of course, not the new ones.
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Posted Jul 24, 2012, 7:41 pm Last edited Jul 24, 2012, 7:45 pm by FireFly
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FireFly said:
*sam* said:
I don't think it's an assault rifle.. more like a sniper rifle.
Sam, for your own sanity please stick to "Bolt action" or something along those lines from now on, else people might ask why the range on their sniper rifle is so short and why it's missing a scope :cyclops:

Edit: Or I guess battle rifle could be applicable, older ones like Garands of course, not the new ones.


Alright, it's a ####ing' carbine, Like the injuns had.
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Posted Jul 24, 2012, 7:46 pm
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*sam* said:
FireFly said:
*sam* said:
I don't think it's an assault rifle.. more like a sniper rifle.
Sam, for your own sanity please stick to "Bolt action" or something along those lines from now on, else people might ask why the range on their sniper rifle is so short and why it's missing a scope :cyclops:

Edit: Or I guess battle rifle could be applicable, older ones like Garands of course, not the new ones.


Alright, it's a ####ing' carbine, Like the injuns had.
Sam, A carbine is just a shortened rifle...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b2/M4-Transparent.png/300px-M4-Transparent.png


Just sayin'... That's a carbine, and they tend to be automatic  :rolleyes:


I may or may not be messing with you at this point
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Posted Jul 24, 2012, 7:50 pm Last edited Jul 24, 2012, 7:52 pm by FireFly
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Could see an Assault Rifle - like a Rifle with shorter range but rapidfire like the new SMG - basically what a GG is to a MG. Does seem a bit odd that we don't have assault rifles in DW since they are one of the most common weapons on the planet.

Edit: What am I saying, you just fixed the rifle-supremacy nonsense
;)

Edit2: Agree with FF below lol


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Posted Jul 24, 2012, 7:53 pm Last edited Jul 24, 2012, 7:57 pm by Juris
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Juris said:
Could see an Assault Rifle - like a Rifle with shorter range but rapidfire like the new SMG - basically what a GG is to a MG.  Does seem a bit odd that we don't have assault rifles in DW since they are one of the most common weapons on the planet. 

Balance, would you like to balance a bolt/smg/shotgun against a fully automatic 30 clip assault rifle?

In DW, I dont think it's possible tbh, we'd be back to the old "Assault Rifle > Everything" this patch was supposed to solve, lol  :rolleyes:


It's possible to balance, but given how DW works it would really just be a more powerful SMG making the SMG moot... would it not?
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Posted Jul 24, 2012, 7:55 pm Last edited Jul 24, 2012, 7:59 pm by FireFly
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*sam* said:
Just a quick announcement about some handweapon tweaks that will be patched in tomorrow:

Rocket propelled grenade (RPG) - a new weapon - basically a single-shot ped-deployed light rocket


Here's my number, call me, maybe? B)
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Posted Jul 24, 2012, 8:23 pm
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Am I glad I got that GW ped combat out of the way tonight ;)

I take it all existing ped weapons with ammo changes will magically convert.

Will we have to top the mags up? Will all our spare mags re-calibrate?
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Posted Jul 24, 2012, 9:22 pm
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*sam* said:
I don't think it's an assault rifle.. more like a sniper rifle. I don't know weapons as well as you fine Americans.. ;-)


Especially us SOUTHERN americans...

We give the kids a .22 rifle when they get their first toothbrush.. ;-)
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Posted Jul 24, 2012, 9:23 pm
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Awesome Sam, it's like chrismase
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Posted Jul 24, 2012, 10:58 pm
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yeah, groovy stuff.


Quote:
We give the kids a .22 rifle when they get their first toothbrush.. ;-)


:) Learned to shoot rabbits with one of these before I learned to shoot hoops.
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Posted Jul 25, 2012, 12:34 am
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"Anyhow, it's about balance and gameplay above all else. "

Ok Sam, that's fair enough.
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Posted Jul 25, 2012, 1:08 am
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