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Handweapon tweaks, media v.120

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,781 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 Just a quick announcement about some handweapon tweaks that will be patched in tomorrow: Rocket propelled grenade (RPG) - a new weapon - basically a single-shot ped-deployed light rocket Rifle - ammo reduced to 12 SMG is now a rapidfire weapon, the same as Gatlings - firing twice per turn. Ammo increased to 24, per-shot damage reduced (since there's now 2 shots). Ranged accuracy slightly improved. Shotgun - substantially improved damage, but it reduces quickly over distance (to represent the cone of fire). Ranged accuracy improved. Ammo reduced to 4. Pistol - ammo increased to 12. Can be fired while running with no accuracy loss (due to light weight) Molotov - rather than only leaving a pool of flaming oil, it will now cause some direct damage and splash damage on hitting Thanks to the various players who advised on these changes :-) ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Jul 24, 2012, 6:52 pm

*DoubleTap* The Ghosts Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 895 Joined: Jul 13, 2007 *sam* said: Rocket propelled grenade (RPG) - a new weapon - basically a single-shot ped-deployed light rocket [Thanks to the various players who advised on these changes :-) No, no, thank YOU!!! ......................... vet marshal wv Posted Jul 24, 2012, 7:02 pm

*Rev. V* Cestus Dei Darkwind Guru Civs Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 3,208 Joined: Aug 3, 2010 Sam, I know you guys in the UK don't have easy access to the fun firearms we do here in the colonies, but I gotta say... I don't know ANYONE with a puny 12 shot mag for their assault rifle. And I know a LOT of people with assault rifles. The RPG is a nice addition though!!!!! Sweet!!!!!! ......................... vet wv zom marshal paintladder cont Posted Jul 24, 2012, 7:12 pm

*DoubleTap* The Ghosts Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 895 Joined: Jul 13, 2007 The Reverend makes an excellent point. If it's a semi auto and it's clip fed, it's at least a 20 and more likely a 30. (If it's bolt action, it's probably more like 5, but I am not advocating that, that's fore sure.) ......................... vet marshal wv Posted Jul 24, 2012, 7:14 pm

FireFly Anarcho-Pumpkin Privateers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 5,468 Joined: Mar 3, 2008 *Rev. V* said: Sam, I know you guys in the UK don't have easy access to the fun firearms we do here in the colonies, but I gotta say... I don't know ANYONE with a puny 12 shot mag for their assault rifle. And I know a LOT of people with assault rifles. The RPG is a nice addition though!!!!! Sweet!!!!!! Just imgaine it's a garand with 4 extra magic bullets or something  ......................... vet wv zom gateautumn deathrceL1 elmsautumn pvp1 pvp2 sssc raceL1 e2g combatL1 santa1 pvp3 gwextrav ww circuit32,18,0 Posted Jul 24, 2012, 7:32 pm Last edited Jul 24, 2012, 7:33 pm by FireFly

FireFly Anarcho-Pumpkin Privateers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 5,468 Joined: Mar 3, 2008 Or you could pretend it's one of these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishapore_2A1_rifle 10 or 12- round magazine, loaded with 5-round charger clips You just have to imagine that Darkwind is set in... India, lul  ......................... vet wv zom gateautumn deathrceL1 elmsautumn pvp1 pvp2 sssc raceL1 e2g combatL1 santa1 pvp3 gwextrav ww circuit32,18,0 Posted Jul 24, 2012, 7:36 pm Last edited Jul 24, 2012, 7:37 pm by FireFly

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,781 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 I don't think it's an assault rifle.. more like a sniper rifle. I don't know weapons as well as you fine Americans.. ;-) Anyhow, it's about balance and gameplay above all else. ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Jul 24, 2012, 7:36 pm

*DoubleTap* The Ghosts Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 895 Joined: Jul 13, 2007 Hmmm. Maybe an SKS. Have to look up how much that had in the clip. Edit: Or a Dragunov. Those those things are cool. ......................... vet marshal wv Posted Jul 24, 2012, 7:36 pm Last edited Jul 24, 2012, 7:37 pm by *DoubleTap*

Juris Hessians Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 1,706 Joined: Sep 16, 2010 *sam* said: I don't think it's an assault rifle.. more like a sniper rifle. I don't know weapons as well as you fine Americans.. ;-) Anyhow, it's about balance and gameplay above all else. Exactly right Game balance > 'realism' - this isn't Call of Duty Great job Sam ......................... vet wv pvp1 pvp5 pvp4 race1 zom pvp2 deathrce1 pvp3 combat1 Posted Jul 24, 2012, 7:40 pm

FireFly Anarcho-Pumpkin Privateers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 5,468 Joined: Mar 3, 2008 *sam* said: I don't think it's an assault rifle.. more like a sniper rifle. Sam, for your own sanity please stick to "Bolt action" or something along those lines from now on, else people might ask why the range on their sniper rifle is so short and why it's missing a scope Edit: Or I guess battle rifle could be applicable, older ones like Garands of course, not the new ones. ......................... vet wv zom gateautumn deathrceL1 elmsautumn pvp1 pvp2 sssc raceL1 e2g combatL1 santa1 pvp3 gwextrav ww circuit32,18,0 Posted Jul 24, 2012, 7:41 pm Last edited Jul 24, 2012, 7:45 pm by FireFly

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,781 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 FireFly said: *sam* said: I don't think it's an assault rifle.. more like a sniper rifle. Sam, for your own sanity please stick to "Bolt action" or something along those lines from now on, else people might ask why the range on their sniper rifle is so short and why it's missing a scope Edit: Or I guess battle rifle could be applicable, older ones like Garands of course, not the new ones. Alright, it's a ####ing' carbine, Like the injuns had. ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Jul 24, 2012, 7:46 pm

FireFly Anarcho-Pumpkin Privateers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 5,468 Joined: Mar 3, 2008 *sam* said: FireFly said: *sam* said: I don't think it's an assault rifle.. more like a sniper rifle. Sam, for your own sanity please stick to "Bolt action" or something along those lines from now on, else people might ask why the range on their sniper rifle is so short and why it's missing a scope Edit: Or I guess battle rifle could be applicable, older ones like Garands of course, not the new ones. Alright, it's a ####ing' carbine, Like the injuns had. Sam, A carbine is just a shortened rifle... Just sayin'... That's a carbine, and they tend to be automatic  I may or may not be messing with you at this point ......................... vet wv zom gateautumn deathrceL1 elmsautumn pvp1 pvp2 sssc raceL1 e2g combatL1 santa1 pvp3 gwextrav ww circuit32,18,0 Posted Jul 24, 2012, 7:50 pm Last edited Jul 24, 2012, 7:52 pm by FireFly

Juris Hessians Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 1,706 Joined: Sep 16, 2010 Could see an Assault Rifle - like a Rifle with shorter range but rapidfire like the new SMG - basically what a GG is to a MG. Does seem a bit odd that we don't have assault rifles in DW since they are one of the most common weapons on the planet. Edit: What am I saying, you just fixed the rifle-supremacy nonsense Edit2: Agree with FF below lol ......................... vet wv pvp1 pvp5 pvp4 race1 zom pvp2 deathrce1 pvp3 combat1 Posted Jul 24, 2012, 7:53 pm Last edited Jul 24, 2012, 7:57 pm by Juris

FireFly Anarcho-Pumpkin Privateers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 5,468 Joined: Mar 3, 2008 Juris said: Could see an Assault Rifle - like a Rifle with shorter range but rapidfire like the new SMG - basically what a GG is to a MG.  Does seem a bit odd that we don't have assault rifles in DW since they are one of the most common weapons on the planet.  Balance, would you like to balance a bolt/smg/shotgun against a fully automatic 30 clip assault rifle? In DW, I dont think it's possible tbh, we'd be back to the old "Assault Rifle > Everything" this patch was supposed to solve, lol  It's possible to balance, but given how DW works it would really just be a more powerful SMG making the SMG moot... would it not? ......................... vet wv zom gateautumn deathrceL1 elmsautumn pvp1 pvp2 sssc raceL1 e2g combatL1 santa1 pvp3 gwextrav ww circuit32,18,0 Posted Jul 24, 2012, 7:55 pm Last edited Jul 24, 2012, 7:59 pm by FireFly

Snidely Carmichael Abysmal Horrors Autodueller Renegade Group: Members Posts: 256 Joined: Apr 7, 2010 *sam* said: Just a quick announcement about some handweapon tweaks that will be patched in tomorrow: Rocket propelled grenade (RPG) - a new weapon - basically a single-shot ped-deployed light rocket Here's my number, call me, maybe? ......................... vet wv pvp5 pvp4 pvp2 pvp1 pvp3 Posted Jul 24, 2012, 8:23 pm

Iron Wraith Iron Wraiths Darkwind Guru Civs Faction Group: Members Posts: 818 Joined: Feb 2, 2009 Am I glad I got that GW ped combat out of the way tonight I take it all existing ped weapons with ammo changes will magically convert. Will we have to top the mags up? Will all our spare mags re-calibrate? ......................... vet wv raceL1 deathrceL1 Posted Jul 24, 2012, 9:22 pm

*jimmylogan* MADHAT Darkwind Guru Civs Faction Group: Marshals + Rule Council Posts: 5,605 Joined: Jun 11, 2008 *sam* said: I don't think it's an assault rifle.. more like a sniper rifle. I don't know weapons as well as you fine Americans.. ;-) Especially us SOUTHERN americans... We give the kids a .22 rifle when they get their first toothbrush.. ;-) ......................... vet marshal deathrceL1 wv community combatL1 Posted Jul 24, 2012, 9:23 pm

*Tinker* BibleThumpers Anonymous Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 4,546 Joined: Aug 1, 2008 Awesome Sam, it's like chrismase ......................... vet marshal wv pvp3 zom circuit2 pvp1 cont Posted Jul 24, 2012, 10:58 pm

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,513 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 yeah, groovy stuff. Quote: We give the kids a .22 rifle when they get their first toothbrush.. ;-) Learned to shoot rabbits with one of these before I learned to shoot hoops. ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,1 Posted Jul 25, 2012, 12:34 am

*Rev. V* Cestus Dei Darkwind Guru Civs Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 3,208 Joined: Aug 3, 2010 "Anyhow, it's about balance and gameplay above all else. " Ok Sam, that's fair enough. ......................... vet wv zom marshal paintladder cont Posted Jul 25, 2012, 1:08 am

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