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Morgan special rules

Ivan Kerensky Les Loups Gris Autodueller Civs Faction Group: Members Posts: 419 Joined: Mar 1, 2008 Except the gang firepower in this area is mesured in gangers more than cars. so you start a vicious circle as losing gangers make you more prone to lose more. And bringing gangers from other town to get them back could be troublesome as if you win you will pass over the 5 gangers limit and get injuries and thus to your gang... ......................... vet wv Posted May 11, 2012, 2:55 pm

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 Ivan Kerensky said: so you start a vicious circle as losing gangers make you more prone to lose more. How so? Maybe you misunderstood.. if a car with a ganger in gets stolen, the ganger remains in Morgan, not in the car anymore. ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted May 11, 2012, 3:27 pm

*JeeTeeOh* Loose Cannons Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 1,796 Joined: Oct 18, 2010 SAM: Re: Wording: "...liable to getting ill..." is pretty darn clunky. How about "may become ill" or, if the possibility is very high, "will become ill." Response to "Vicious circle of gangers" post and reply: I think he was specifically referring to Bast's "hostages" scenario, in which case things could certainly become complicated. (Unless hostages still counted toward your 5 Morgan gangers, in which case all is well! sort of...) ......................... vet wv e2g marshal cont deathrceL1 sssc Posted May 11, 2012, 3:39 pm

Ivan Kerensky Les Loups Gris Autodueller Civs Faction Group: Members Posts: 419 Joined: Mar 1, 2008 *sam* said: Ivan Kerensky said: so you start a vicious circle as losing gangers make you more prone to lose more. How so? Maybe you misunderstood.. if a car with a ganger in gets stolen, the ganger remains in Morgan, not in the car anymore. Not answering to you Sam, but to the suggestion than the pilot would been kidnapped Should have used quote ......................... vet wv Posted May 11, 2012, 3:49 pm

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 Ivan Kerensky said: *sam* said: Ivan Kerensky said: so you start a vicious circle as losing gangers make you more prone to lose more. How so? Maybe you misunderstood.. if a car with a ganger in gets stolen, the ganger remains in Morgan, not in the car anymore. Not answering to you Sam, but to the suggestion than the pilot would been kidnapped Should have used quote Ah, good!    ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted May 11, 2012, 3:57 pm

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,513 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 *sam* said: Ivan Kerensky said: so you start a vicious circle as losing gangers make you more prone to lose more. How so? Maybe you misunderstood.. if a car with a ganger in gets stolen, the ganger remains in Morgan, not in the car anymore. yeah, in the case I state that gangers would be taken hostage. I had not thought of that ganger hole point though. edit: ahh right, snap ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,1 Posted May 11, 2012, 3:58 pm Last edited May 11, 2012, 3:58 pm by *Bastille*

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,907 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 May I just say how nice it is to see Ivan back again. ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted May 11, 2012, 8:39 pm

*SirLatte* Road Templars Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 509 Joined: Jun 22, 2010 Just thought of another special feature Morgan...or maybe Elms could have... Stops or reduces the Weakening or Deteriorating Fast. Would Give these gangers a chance to get played in places other than Death Races ......................... marshal vet wv pvp1 zom paintladder paintball elmsautumn raceL1 ped2 circuit2 ped1 gwped Posted May 11, 2012, 8:54 pm

Serephe Collision Force Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 3,496 Joined: Dec 9, 2007 Heck no -- they're still playable everywhere, folks gotta die sometme. Leaving them sittng n town besides races just wastes the time you've put into them! ......................... vet wv paintladder ww0,3,0 Posted May 12, 2012, 1:43 am

*SirLatte* Road Templars Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 509 Joined: Jun 22, 2010 Serephe said: Heck no -- they're still playable everywhere, folks gotta die sometme. Leaving them sittng n town besides races just wastes the time you've put into them! When you are limited on time to play you play guys that still have potential...At least thats how I do it ......................... marshal vet wv pvp1 zom paintladder paintball elmsautumn raceL1 ped2 circuit2 ped1 gwped Posted May 12, 2012, 2:16 am

Serephe Collision Force Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 3,496 Joined: Dec 9, 2007 Everyone has potential, now if you're talkin about guys who still have training left to do, well, what's the point in training guys if once they're done you ain't gonna use them? Ageing is slow enough without making it even slower. Got muties in their late 20s that still have 5+ game years left in them, and that's MUTIES! ......................... vet wv paintladder ww0,3,0 Posted May 12, 2012, 2:57 am

*StCrispin* Beasts of the Lair Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,657 Joined: Feb 13, 2012 *SirLatte* said: Just thought of another special feature Morgan...or maybe Elms could have... Stops or reduces the Weakening or Deteriorating Fast. Would Give these gangers a chance to get played in places other than Death Races Most of my Humans end up "weakening" or "Deteriorating Fast" somewhere around the age of 17 to 19.  Unless They were older than that when Hired. ......................... vet wv gwped paintladder paintball marshal raceL10,1,0 Posted May 16, 2012, 12:17 am

*StCrispin* Beasts of the Lair Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,657 Joined: Feb 13, 2012 Ok I have a major bone to pick after seeing the Pirate attack times. The morgan town info says i can "Lose" entire cars if the attacks are not beaten off. But the attacks all occur on the same day, (a day I work, Saturday, the PEAK business day in the US. not sure of people in other countries get that day off but here, only politicians and bankers and non-economy driven industries like factories have that day off) Even worse, the attacks occur at 3 times, 1 during the deep part of my "night" (3 hours after i go to bed to get my nightly 6 hours sleep befor going back to work). and the other 2 while im at work. Can't we put one at 8:00 server instead of 12:00 server? ANY day of the week I can protect my assets at that time. Otherwise I have to make a decision. Im either going to have to totally ABANDON Morgan altogether, Only stock it with junkheaps like a cadrona or something, or just watch my valuables and cars go "poof" without the ability to do anything at all to influence that. Right now I am leaning strongly towards evacuating and abandoning the town and not returning. ......................... vet wv gwped paintladder paintball marshal raceL10,1,0 Posted May 16, 2012, 12:26 am Last edited May 16, 2012, 12:28 am by StCrispin

Juris Hessians Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 1,706 Joined: Sep 16, 2010 StCrispin said: Ok I have a major bone to pick after seeing the Pirate attack times.  Was thinking about this - my idea would be to make pirate attacks like camp attacks - set a time but allow them to be played early (anytime during the week).  If you want cooperative play you can require more than one human participate.  As things are now I think the chance the small player base will miss any of the three town attacks is pretty high. ......................... vet wv pvp1 pvp5 pvp4 race1 zom pvp2 deathrce1 pvp3 combat1 Posted May 16, 2012, 12:35 am Last edited May 16, 2012, 12:44 am by Juris

Lord Foul .-^-HellRazors-^. Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Rules Council Posts: 3,543 Joined: Jan 12, 2008 StCrispin said: Ok I have a major bone to pick after seeing the Pirate attack times.  The morgan town info says i can "Lose" entire cars if the attacks are not beaten off. But the attacks all occur on the same day, (a day I work, Saturday, the PEAK business day in the US.  not sure of people in other countries get that day off but here, only politicians and bankers and non-economy driven industries like factories have that day off) Even worse, the attacks occur at 3 times, 1 during the deep part of my "night" (3 hours after i go to bed to get my nightly 6 hours sleep befor going back to work).  and the other 2 while im at work. Can't we put one at 8:00 server instead of 12:00 server?  ANY day of the week I can protect my assets at that time.  Otherwise I have to make a decision. Im either going to have to totally ABANDON Morgan altogether,  Only stock it with junkheaps like a cadrona or something, or just watch my valuables and cars go "poof" without the ability to do anything at all to influence that. Right now I am leaning strongly towards evacuating and abandoning the town and not returning. Keep in mind that this is a trial period and Sam may adjust the times depending on how they turn out. I suggested multiple options for Sam to use for times and he went with what he feels is the best times to run the events. Will some have problems attending, sure. But the main point is for the community to work together as a whole, not as an individual Rambo thinking that if he can't make it to the event, the town is doomed. It's a group effort and those involved need to work together to make sure the town stays safe and you get your training bonus. There's nothing stopping players setup in morgan from posting a thread of who will/may show up to these events so we all know that at least some players will be there to defend. ......................... vet race1 deathrce1 wv zom circuit1 pvp1 northernsummer community circuit3 paintball55,206,126 Posted May 16, 2012, 5:50 am Last edited May 16, 2012, 5:50 am by Lord Foul

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 As LF says, this is a trial period, and things can be changed. I'll re-state something: don't send out anything to Morgan for the moment if you're not willing to lose it. It's about co-operation: the community as a whole will have to win the three combats, but there's no requirement for any particular player to be at any specific combat (or indeed any at all). ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted May 16, 2012, 10:31 am

*DoubleTap* The Ghosts Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 895 Joined: Jul 13, 2007 StCrispin said: (a day I work, Saturday, the PEAK business day in the US.  not sure of people in other countries get that day off but here, only politicians and bankers and non-economy driven industries like factories have that day off) Forgive the digression! Huge retail day, absolutely, and also hospitality industry. There are other "economy driven" industries (factories most certainly included), however, that do not rely on Saturdays to do business- industirals (as mentioned), medicine, financial, education to name a few.  I would not limit Saturdays to politicians and bankers. No bone to pick here, Crispin, as I've worked my share of Saturdays too.  Plus, I agree completely that retail and hospitality kill it on Saturdays, but most info says about 35% of Americans work on weekends, including those who's job is primarily during the week, but who sometimes come in on the weekends to get some extra stuff done (like me.) Having rattled off all that long-winded drivel, having all the attacks on one day will probably be changed in the long run, because as you pointed out, it makes tons of sense. ......................... vet marshal wv Posted May 16, 2012, 2:16 pm

Juris Hessians Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 1,706 Joined: Sep 16, 2010 Do you need to be actively training the capped skill to get a boost? ......................... vet wv pvp1 pvp5 pvp4 race1 zom pvp2 deathrce1 pvp3 combat1 Posted May 16, 2012, 5:35 pm

*Jagged Monkey* Bazooka Joes Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 594 Joined: Jul 13, 2010 Yea, I'm gonna need you to come in on Saturday... I have to work Saturdays too but I don't whine about it. Will vacation mode protect your cars from pirate attacks? ......................... vet wv combatL1 semiprocombat marshal elmsautumn northernsummer0,1,0 Posted May 16, 2012, 7:14 pm

*StCrispin* Beasts of the Lair Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,657 Joined: Feb 13, 2012 By "factories" being "non-economy" driven I meant that they are a producer of goods and dont sell them there at the plant (normally).  Usually their goods are then distributed to some distributor, then parceled out to contractees or general retailers to sell, or if it isnt an end product, to some other user to use in thier areas. Meant no offense to factory employees. I hadnt heard that only 35% of American worked on weekends.  But then again American statistical stuff they talk about in the news say we make "on average, over $18.00 an hour" which is blatantly false for the majority of Americans.  Its that word average.  Take the guy who makes 20 Million a year and average him in and you get a skewing effect. 1 guy makes 20 mil, the other 99 make 25k and poof "americans on average make 220,000K a year!" says the news.  LMAO. (actually the news claims the average American makes 180,000.  which is again totally insane and untrue for the majority of American.  Again, the word average gets it.) Anyway, I just would rather see a 8:00 server time one one attack.  So I can attend.  I hate to lose my stuff if I had no way to prevent it at all.  THIS week I can.  Im on vacation. I may just stock morgan with only Dune buggys and Subcompacts. SNOWBUGGY! anyone have snow camo skins? ......................... vet wv gwped paintladder paintball marshal raceL10,1,0 Posted May 17, 2012, 10:31 pm Last edited May 17, 2012, 10:34 pm by StCrispin

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