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Amateur Night

Blaer Andre Assault Autodueller Renegade Group: Members Posts: 276 Joined: Mar 9, 2008 Whilst I have to disagree with that statement... I DO agree that you should at least play normal to get a feel for the basics, like user interface, etc. once you've got that down, then sure, come on over to the dark side... it's more "cutthroat" but then... if you're like me, that's how you think it should be... and for the record, yea, SOTA is state of the art... but then, those rentals weren't either... so you'll not notice... and if you ARE coming to scav, don't get too comfy in normal... you'll start thinking B armour is a right, not a privilege... and there ARE amateur nights kicking around... just look through the events list.. they're not commonplace mind... but they're there... ......................... vet wv Posted Oct 21, 2011, 4:31 am

Stingray191 Bladerunners Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 678 Joined: Dec 9, 2008 Now we just need a reboot to make it fair for all the people who don't get free rentals... *Runs screaming from the torch bearing, angry mob* ......................... vet wv elmsautumn e2g ww Posted Oct 21, 2011, 4:33 am

Juris Hessians Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 1,706 Joined: Sep 16, 2010 Amy Night is bugged - you need your own vehicle which defeats the purpose AND you apparently just get normal arena prizes - Joel and I just did one with our last rentals and both got fuel (he got first and 2 fuel, I was 2nd and got 1 fuel) Oh, and lost my only vehicle so I guess that's it for Scav ......................... vet wv pvp1 pvp5 pvp4 race1 zom pvp2 deathrce1 pvp3 combat1 Posted Oct 21, 2011, 4:59 am Last edited Oct 21, 2011, 5:33 am by Juris

Hammerzeit Hammerfists Pedestrian Renegade Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: Oct 16, 2011 Blaer said: Whilst I have to disagree with that statement... I DO agree that you should at least play normal to get a feel for the basics, like user interface, etc. once you've got that down, then sure, come on over to the dark side... it's more "cutthroat" but then... if you're like me, that's how you think it should be... and for the record, yea, SOTA is state of the art... but then, those rentals weren't either... so you'll not notice... and if you ARE coming to scav, don't get too comfy in normal... you'll start thinking B armour is a right, not a privilege... and there ARE amateur nights kicking around... just look through the events list.. they're not commonplace mind... but they're there... I have played normal and I do have a feel for the basics which is why I moved to scavenger. ......................... vet Posted Oct 21, 2011, 5:33 am

Hammerzeit Hammerfists Pedestrian Renegade Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: Oct 16, 2011 Stingray191 said: Now we just need a reboot to make it fair for all the people who don't get free rentals... *Runs screaming from the torch bearing, angry mob* Not asking for a reboot.  Just a way to do something besides race. ......................... vet Posted Oct 21, 2011, 5:34 am

Blaer Andre Assault Autodueller Renegade Group: Members Posts: 276 Joined: Mar 9, 2008 Stingray191 said: Now we just need a reboot to make it fair for all the people who don't get free rentals... *Runs screaming from the torch bearing, angry mob* lolz... I think I could honestly say I could go either way on that one ......................... vet wv Posted Oct 21, 2011, 5:47 am

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 Hmm, there must be a bug in there if it's telling you to bring your own vehicles. These should only be spawned with track supplied vehicles.. I'll investigate. ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Oct 21, 2011, 8:17 am

*Tinker* BibleThumpers Anonymous Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 4,546 Joined: Aug 1, 2008 any chance these can be started anytime by the player? would be a stinker to wait 1.5 hours just to get back on the road imo ......................... vet marshal wv pvp3 zom circuit2 pvp1 cont Posted Oct 21, 2011, 8:49 am

Rokkitz Monarchs Autodueller Mutants Faction Group: Members Posts: 277 Joined: Nov 26, 2009 Sam, be careful with the types of vehicles supplied. I saw ATG armed Desert Tanks (Landrunners) in there. I have yet to even see one in SS, so letting scavs get easy access would be horrible. ......................... vet wv Posted Oct 21, 2011, 10:31 am

Iron Wraith Iron Wraiths Darkwind Guru Civs Faction Group: Members Posts: 818 Joined: Feb 2, 2009 <De-Cloaking> Surely the stinger is your classic AN vehicle. Low armour, poor weapon. I am not sure you can really make an amateur night vehicle that is specially designed to be cheap enough to give away and yet is good enough for wilderness use. The design briefs seem diametrically opposed. Now you could use any wilderness vehicle but strip all its armour to 10 points per side of class C (then when you do it up for the wilderness you are only junking cheap armour). Ideally you would have damaged weapons, but since even slight damage seems to massively impair the reliability this probably isn't going to be much use. Better would be cheap weapons like one-shot rockets or rely on rams. None of these should use chassis that any player would love to have, the tradition of AM is you sell of the chassis to buy your dream car (in scav the beat up rust bucket may be your dream car of course). Symph seems to be avoided by players for a wilderness car but is commonly used by bandits (and therefore is liable to be brought back as loot). This is a 2 man car so satisfys the wilderness use criteria. Tires can be damaged without real problems for the arena and are easily replaced for wilderness use. What happens to all that damaged rubber otherwise? Does jake have a plastics factory? The primary criteria should be CHEAP cars. Preferably less than $5000. Then of course the prize might be worth less than a normal arena prize with greater risk of permanent damage to gangers. The prize could be a decent car instead, there could be prize money as well as the car. Maybe there could be double skill points for low skill characters as the risk is higher and the prize lower. Otherwise I don't see why you would be incentivised to enter. If you want to do it properly of course you could simply monitor what is brought back from scouts and sold straight to Jake and use those vehicles. Obviously this would add extra complications but by definition those vehicles are driveable. Maybe Jake could hover at the gates to buy loot cars before players have a chance to strip them for bits. If you didn't bring the vehicle into town, you wouldn't have to pay the gate fee either. This could allow non-subs to get some benefit out of loot (but no-where near as much as subscribers) ......................... vet wv raceL1 deathrceL1 Posted Oct 21, 2011, 11:14 am

JS Hitmen Trucking Inc -CI- Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 3,238 Joined: Jan 9, 2010 Should Amateur night allow dual entries? There was an event at 10-21 13:22 that had two cars per gang. ......................... vet wv pvp5 pvp3 pvp4 Posted Oct 21, 2011, 12:03 pm

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 Rokkitz said: Sam, be careful with the types of vehicles supplied. I saw ATG armed Desert Tanks (Landrunners) in there. I have yet to even see one in SS, so letting scavs get easy access would be horrible. That was part of the bug. Currently only symphonys are possible in fact.. but I'll add more ASAP. ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Oct 21, 2011, 12:27 pm

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 JS said: Should Amateur night allow dual entries?  There was an event at 10-21 13:22 that had two cars per gang. I don't think it's a problem is it? Only the overall winner gets a car. ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Oct 21, 2011, 1:00 pm

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,513 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 would maybe a Hotshot be ok for the ring? a moose build might be nice? With lower armor than the blaster or DS making it a higher risk. An mg is pretty common, could go a standard moose build (twin mgs front + rear), with less armour than a death symph, that would be a hard fight to win. ahh... I think ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,1 Posted Oct 21, 2011, 1:08 pm Last edited Oct 21, 2011, 1:46 pm by *Bastille*

JS Hitmen Trucking Inc -CI- Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 3,238 Joined: Jan 9, 2010 *sam* said: JS said: Should Amateur night allow dual entries?  There was an event at 10-21 13:22 that had two cars per gang. I don't think it's a problem is it? Only the overall winner gets a car. Ahh, got it, I thought they might be able to get 2. ......................... vet wv pvp5 pvp3 pvp4 Posted Oct 21, 2011, 1:21 pm

Rokkitz Monarchs Autodueller Mutants Faction Group: Members Posts: 277 Joined: Nov 26, 2009 *sam* said: JS said: Should Amateur night allow dual entries?  There was an event at 10-21 13:22 that had two cars per gang. I don't think it's a problem is it? Only the overall winner gets a car. Well, you get a more desperate feeling if youre all alone in there.. everyone wanting to win that car, not by teaming up and splitting it. I would prefer one entry only ......................... vet wv Posted Oct 21, 2011, 2:52 pm

*JeeTeeOh* Loose Cannons Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 1,796 Joined: Oct 18, 2010 Was gonna join an amateur night combat last night. Winner keeps his car! Bring your own.... wha? May wanna confirm that amateur night is always a stock car event. The right to keep my own car after the combat is somewhat less than exciting. ......................... vet wv e2g marshal cont deathrceL1 sssc Posted Oct 21, 2011, 3:25 pm

JS Hitmen Trucking Inc -CI- Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 3,238 Joined: Jan 9, 2010 JeeTeeOh said: Was gonna join an amateur night combat last night. Winner keeps his car! Bring your own.... wha? May wanna confirm that amateur night is always a stock car event. The right to keep my own car after the combat is somewhat less than exciting. That's tight Jee, this is Scav baby, you bring your car, and if you win you can keep it.  What's more hardcore than that! ......................... vet wv pvp5 pvp3 pvp4 Posted Oct 21, 2011, 4:32 pm

Joel Autobaun Joels Bastards Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Sinbinned Posts: 4,598 Joined: Nov 10, 2008 *Tinker* said: any chance these can be started anytime by the player? would be a stinker to wait 1.5 hours just to get back on the road imo Sorry Disagree here. This forces players to actually play with/against each other which is one of the only things that attracts me to scav. ......................... vet northernsummer deathrce1 raceL1 deathrceL1 ww ped1 sssc paintball semiprocombat ped2 e2g gwextrav gwped combat1 paintladder elmsautumn gateautumn wv race1 combatL1 pvp1 pvp5 pvp4 zom pvp3 circuit1 pvp2 circuit2 circuit3 ss2fl67 slay2013 storm2013 geek triangle198,96,31 Posted Oct 21, 2011, 4:46 pm

*JeeTeeOh* Loose Cannons Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 1,796 Joined: Oct 18, 2010 Joel Autobaun said: *Tinker* said: any chance these can be started anytime by the player? would be a stinker to wait 1.5 hours just to get back on the road imo Sorry Disagree here. This forces players to actually play with/against each other which is one of the only things that attracts me to scav. +1 The chance to win a car shouldn't be at the player's whim. ......................... vet wv e2g marshal cont deathrceL1 sssc Posted Oct 21, 2011, 5:13 pm

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