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FireFly Anarcho-Pumpkin Privateers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 5,468 Joined: Mar 3, 2008 d0dger said: FireFly said: d0dger said: Joel Autobaun said: My Psi got knocked out from pyroing Juris/Dodger. Just to clarify all in one sentence: This was on his third attempt, to set the 3rd car of 3 in the same event on fire,after taking a concussion hit from the first car he set ablaze blowing up next to him. Just to clarify, his psionic has 150skill and three points in pyro. That is an extremely highly skilled and specialized psionic. (way beyond anything I have, I have lots but none above 110) If he failed in a regular basis it would be like a sniper 3 having trouble hitting at 80m. check your facts, pyro level 2. My bad then, I'll stand by my point thou as a sniper 2 will never miss at 80m either. (Not counting defensive drivers and vehicle shotguns  ) And my point was, even a psi that is so highly specialized can fail their psi checks, and speaking from experience having no psi of that high level, it takes either over a year or super luck in training such a ganger. In fact, I'm pretty sure Joel started training that guy before Psi's got fully implemented, or am I remembering wrong? (Bloody Cheater!) Anyway, I'd like to clarify the pyro you saw in that event was a very powerful one, and a pyro level 1 at around 100 skill (That's still high relative to how few psi's there are) is not only more prone to failing, the most he can do normally is cause a light fire, the kind that has a bigger chance to die than to blow something up. Think smouldering or burning lightly at most. ......................... vet wv zom gateautumn deathrceL1 elmsautumn pvp1 pvp2 sssc raceL1 e2g combatL1 santa1 pvp3 gwextrav ww circuit32,18,0 Posted Jul 28, 2011, 12:27 am Last edited Jul 28, 2011, 12:44 am by FireFly

d0dger an0maly Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 2,492 Joined: Jan 24, 2010 Just to put some practical application to this... FF, you're full of it with all the unreliable/ineffective takes forever to train and be useful stuff. James Bang level 1 pyro 86 psionics skill Event ID S375619 - gets out of car, sets two peds on fire 80% effort, get back in car attempts a third at 60% gets the headache and knocked unconcious. No apparent lasting affect to his activity or mileage. Event ID S375623 - Same scout, return encounter. Same PSI character, miraculously conscious with full energy/activity. Sets all 3 enemy cars on fire from within the vehicle, no knockout, no problems. First two he was manning and firing a gun, third he was driving the vehicle. First vehicle was about to blow when event ended, both others till on fire. 4 of 5 successful attempts. 2nd through 6th times I'd ever even tried to use the skill. <sarcasm> Totally unreliable. Totally ineffective. Totally not in need of adjustment against NPCs, maybe just in PVP. yeah, uh huh. </sarcasm> ......................... vet wv combat1 combatL1 paintladder pvp5 sssc deathrceL1 pvp4 zom race1 semiprocombat deathrce1 raceL1 pvp3 pvp2 ww pvp1 paintball santa2 gwped4,16,10 Posted Jul 29, 2011, 12:52 am Last edited Jul 29, 2011, 12:56 am by d0dger

*Tinker* BibleThumpers Anonymous Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 4,546 Joined: Aug 1, 2008 Dodger keep using him and see, your first experience seems full of good luck As for the mileage, I keep a record in each character's bios of all descriptive injuries, feel free to look, but it seems your right it doesn't seem very strong. ......................... vet marshal wv pvp3 zom circuit2 pvp1 cont Posted Jul 29, 2011, 8:56 am

*Grograt* Grograts Gonads Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 8,377 Joined: Oct 5, 2008 Please dont nerf my over powered, easy to use, allows me to dominate the game, toys < add plenty of sarcasm here > Scavenger - please please lets not have any Psi's, lasers, RGMS please ......................... vet marshal wv community Posted Jul 29, 2011, 10:24 am Last edited Jul 29, 2011, 10:25 am by *Grograt*

FireFly Anarcho-Pumpkin Privateers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 5,468 Joined: Mar 3, 2008 *Grograt* said: Please dont nerf my over powered, easy to use, allows me to dominate the game, toys < add plenty of sarcasm here > Oh, you mean the sniper spic?  ......................... vet wv zom gateautumn deathrceL1 elmsautumn pvp1 pvp2 sssc raceL1 e2g combatL1 santa1 pvp3 gwextrav ww circuit32,18,0 Posted Jul 29, 2011, 11:06 am

FireFly Anarcho-Pumpkin Privateers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 5,468 Joined: Mar 3, 2008 d0dger said: Just to put some practical application to this... FF, you're full of it with all the unreliable/ineffective takes forever to train and be useful stuff. James Bang level 1 pyro 86 psionics skill Event ID S375619 - gets out of car, sets two peds on fire 80% effort, get back in car attempts a third at 60% gets the headache and knocked unconcious. No apparent lasting affect to his activity or mileage. Event ID S375623 - Same scout, return encounter. Same PSI character, miraculously conscious with full energy/activity. Sets all 3 enemy cars on fire from within the vehicle, no knockout, no problems. First two he was manning and firing a gun, third he was driving the vehicle. First vehicle was about to blow when event ended, both others till on fire. 4 of 5 successful attempts. 2nd through 6th times I'd ever even tried to use the skill. Now tell me, two of these attemnts were to set fire to peds and you were outside the car, first of all psi's get a penalty for usage inside the car... But can you get out of the car to set things on fire in a heated firefight? Nope, so I'm not really counting on that and as far as setting peds on fire goes, that serves little to no tactical point at all. As for the second event, First of all you were pretty lucky and secondly you still validated one of my points with that, according to how I read that you still had to demo at least two of the vehicles with gunfire. Add to this that pyro only works in the wild if the enemy squad is rather small, it doesn't go well together with heavy weapon scouting as you need to be within the effective 40- range. And it torches the loot, so no, it is very ineffective as they fight to the death and only really works for fun. ......................... vet wv zom gateautumn deathrceL1 elmsautumn pvp1 pvp2 sssc raceL1 e2g combatL1 santa1 pvp3 gwextrav ww circuit32,18,0 Posted Jul 29, 2011, 11:38 am

d0dger an0maly Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 2,492 Joined: Jan 24, 2010 FireFly said: d0dger said: Just to put some practical application to this... FF, you're full of it with all the unreliable/ineffective takes forever to train and be useful stuff. James Bang level 1 pyro 86 psionics skill Event ID S375619 - gets out of car, sets two peds on fire 80% effort, get back in car attempts a third at 60% gets the headache and knocked unconcious. No apparent lasting affect to his activity or mileage. Event ID S375623 - Same scout, return encounter. Same PSI character, miraculously conscious with full energy/activity. Sets all 3 enemy cars on fire from within the vehicle, no knockout, no problems. First two he was manning and firing a gun, third he was driving the vehicle. First vehicle was about to blow when event ended, both others till on fire. 4 of 5 successful attempts. 2nd through 6th times I'd ever even tried to use the skill. Now tell me, two of these attemnts were to set fire to peds and you were outside the car, first of all psi's get a penalty for usage inside the car... But can you get out of the car to set things on fire in a heated firefight? Nope, so I'm not really counting on that and as far as setting peds on fire goes, that serves little to no tactical point at all. As for the second event, First of all you were pretty lucky and secondly you still validated one of my points with that, according to how I read that you still had to demo at least two of the vehicles with gunfire. Add to this that pyro only works in the wild if the enemy squad is rather small, it doesn't go well together with heavy weapon scouting as you need to be within the effective 40- range. And it torches the loot, so no, it is very ineffective as they fight to the death and only really works for fun. I'm aware that being outside of the car is easier which is why I noted the fact. It doesn't change the fact that I had 4 of 5 successful attempts on a single outing with early attempts when I admittedly don't even know what I'm doing yet and will only get better at using it from there. I don't know that I had to demo the cars with guns, but yet I was shooting at them instead of waiting around for the fires to burn them out. It doesn't change the fact that my PSI was able to set 3 of 3 on fire and cause them even more damage and stress while shooting them or driving the car all at the same time. ......................... vet wv combat1 combatL1 paintladder pvp5 sssc deathrceL1 pvp4 zom race1 semiprocombat deathrce1 raceL1 pvp3 pvp2 ww pvp1 paintball santa2 gwped4,16,10 Posted Jul 29, 2011, 1:24 pm

Joel Autobaun Joels Bastards Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Sinbinned Posts: 4,598 Joined: Nov 10, 2008 d0dger said: FireFly said: d0dger said: Just to put some practical application to this... FF, you're full of it with all the unreliable/ineffective takes forever to train and be useful stuff. James Bang level 1 pyro 86 psionics skill Event ID S375619 - gets out of car, sets two peds on fire 80% effort, get back in car attempts a third at 60% gets the headache and knocked unconcious. No apparent lasting affect to his activity or mileage. Event ID S375623 - Same scout, return encounter. Same PSI character, miraculously conscious with full energy/activity. Sets all 3 enemy cars on fire from within the vehicle, no knockout, no problems. First two he was manning and firing a gun, third he was driving the vehicle. First vehicle was about to blow when event ended, both others till on fire. 4 of 5 successful attempts. 2nd through 6th times I'd ever even tried to use the skill. Now tell me, two of these attemnts were to set fire to peds and you were outside the car, first of all psi's get a penalty for usage inside the car... But can you get out of the car to set things on fire in a heated firefight? Nope, so I'm not really counting on that and as far as setting peds on fire goes, that serves little to no tactical point at all. As for the second event, First of all you were pretty lucky and secondly you still validated one of my points with that, according to how I read that you still had to demo at least two of the vehicles with gunfire. Add to this that pyro only works in the wild if the enemy squad is rather small, it doesn't go well together with heavy weapon scouting as you need to be within the effective 40- range. And it torches the loot, so no, it is very ineffective as they fight to the death and only really works for fun. I'm aware that being outside of the car is easier which is why I noted the fact. It doesn't change the fact that I had 4 of 5 successful attempts on a single outing with early attempts when I admittedly don't even know what I'm doing yet and will only get better at using it from there. I don't know that I had to demo the cars with guns, but yet I was shooting at them instead of waiting around for the fires to burn them out. It doesn't change the fact that my PSI was able to set 3 of 3 on fire and cause them even more damage and stress while shooting them or driving the car all at the same time. Ya and that really doesn't matter, only in PvP does it really matter.  I've found the ability only useful when attacking traders.  Escorts charge me, I light them up while shooting to be able to take them down a little faster and I can chase down the lorry. In a regular npc scout, I really screwed up if I let npcs get within 50 range of me.  So what I am saying is Pyro is not a big deal on regular scouting. Like I said - remove from all leagues and scavenger mode. ......................... vet northernsummer deathrce1 raceL1 deathrceL1 ww ped1 sssc paintball semiprocombat ped2 e2g gwextrav gwped combat1 paintladder elmsautumn gateautumn wv race1 combatL1 pvp1 pvp5 pvp4 zom pvp3 circuit1 pvp2 circuit2 circuit3 ss2fl67 slay2013 storm2013 geek triangle198,96,31 Posted Jul 29, 2011, 1:51 pm Last edited Jul 29, 2011, 1:56 pm by Joel Autobaun

d0dger an0maly Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 2,492 Joined: Jan 24, 2010 S375855 One of whiskey's scouts. 3 for 3 success, pyro level 1, psionics 86 1 blew up ......................... vet wv combat1 combatL1 paintladder pvp5 sssc deathrceL1 pvp4 zom race1 semiprocombat deathrce1 raceL1 pvp3 pvp2 ww pvp1 paintball santa2 gwped4,16,10 Posted Jul 29, 2011, 11:45 pm Last edited Jul 29, 2011, 11:56 pm by d0dger

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