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DW: Scavenger

Cavefish Cavefish Pedestrian Renegade Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: Jun 19, 2010 However it will be decided I just want to raise one point. The DW community is small, at odd hours it may take a while to even form a single scout. Fracturing the community into two separate games more or less with the introduction of Scavengers, would be highly detrimental to the game as a whole if the two groups would be unable to interact with one another to a meaningful degree. ......................... vet wv0,1,0 Posted Jul 14, 2011, 11:37 pm

*Rezeak* The Dark Knights Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Marshals + Storytellers Posts: 2,377 Joined: Aug 8, 2009 *sam* said: viKKing said: Sam don't forget to add the feature to revoke players complaining too much from Scavenger mode.  Just you and me left then viKK. Like the old days eh?  I haven't been here to complain. So get with the times and make it a threesome. ......................... vet wv deathrceL1 marshal pvp2 zom pvp3 Posted Jul 15, 2011, 1:44 am

Checkers Axis of Weevils Autodueller Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 355 Joined: Jul 17, 2010 I would just like to point out that, should softcore players scout with hardcore players, the various conditions that hardcore players have to endure will effectively make them liabilities in a scout. *Rezeak* said: I haven't been here to complain. So get with the times and make it a threesome. You haven't been here for the last three months. How are things? ......................... vet wv Posted Jul 15, 2011, 2:35 am Last edited Jul 15, 2011, 2:35 am by Checkers

ninjamonkey73 Bullet Boys Autodueller Civs Faction Group: Subscribers Posts: 270 Joined: Jun 20, 2010 Link to a description of exactly what we're talking about? ......................... vet wv marshal Posted Jul 15, 2011, 4:38 am

Karz Master Alpha Junkers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Storytellers + IP Posts: 2,375 Joined: Nov 13, 2006 *sam* said: viKKing said: Sam don't forget to add the feature to revoke players complaining too much from Scavenger mode.  Just you and me left then viKK. Like the old days eh?  ....... <---- ??? ......................... vet wv zom Posted Jul 15, 2011, 5:51 am

Groove Champion The Groove Champions Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 4,813 Joined: Sep 16, 2008 I'll try out DW:Scavenger. Don't want a second gang. Suck it up, cowards! ......................... vet combatL1 wv cont0,5,0 Posted Jul 15, 2011, 7:10 am

Serephe Collision Force Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 3,496 Joined: Dec 9, 2007 Groove Champion said: I'll try out DW:Scavenger. Don't want a second gang. Suck it up, cowards! But people want to have their cake and eat it too. ......................... vet wv paintladder ww0,3,0 Posted Jul 15, 2011, 7:14 am Last edited Jul 15, 2011, 7:14 am by Serephe

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 ninjamonkey73 said: Link to a description of exactly what we're talking about? I'll post more details in a few days (I need to think some more about how it will work), but essentially the main thing is that scavenger gangs won't use money and won't be able to buy and sell in the marketplace or at Jake's. The main effect is that they will tend to use damaged, lesser equipment and will be often scrounging for ammo etc. So, more of a wasteland and less of a country club  If you take a look at goat's "an experiment" thread in the subscriber forum you'll get some idea. ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Jul 15, 2011, 7:52 am

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 Karz Master said: *sam* said: viKKing said: Sam don't forget to add the feature to revoke players complaining too much from Scavenger mode.  Just you and me left then viKK. Like the old days eh?  ....... <---- ??? Nov 2006? Pffft.. n00b  ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Jul 15, 2011, 7:53 am

Serephe Collision Force Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 3,496 Joined: Dec 9, 2007 How easy would it be to make damage to items cause a variety of effects? For example a damaged rocket launcher could be less accurate OR jam OR have a lowered capacity OR explode prematurely. Just a thought. If they're gonna be using damaged gear, it'd be nice if damage to gear actually did something (beyond the current below 50% jamming we get). ......................... vet wv paintladder ww0,3,0 Posted Jul 15, 2011, 8:04 am

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,513 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 Typed twice already and browser refreshed. Make simple more. yes to two gangs, no to 2 week turn over(like FF said can't be bothered to requote), can't decide two weeks in advacne how to play, that said its a test I guess. I can put A team on hold while I play B team. Vacation mode for one team if can switch so no training for both teams. Factions for all this would be ulimate I think, then 1 gang. Juris said NPCs need mega perma too, I agree. More gun jams, yes ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,1 Posted Jul 15, 2011, 8:49 am

*viKKing* Skulls And Bones Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 4,249 Joined: Oct 12, 2006 *sam* said: viKKing said: Sam don't forget to add the feature to revoke players complaining too much from Scavenger mode.  Just you and me left then viKK. Like the old days eh?  Huh, no, you would then be alone, I can't remind something I did not complain about...  Instead of two gangs, could there be a "scavenger" sub section of the same gang instead? ......................... vet cont zom slay2013 marshal wv Posted Jul 15, 2011, 10:37 am

theHumungous Worldeaters Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 686 Joined: Jan 12, 2010 I agree with being able to put your 'main' gang on vacation or somehow switching between the two - maybe at will. I mean, if you can send yourself anything anyway, what's it matter? Just shouldn't be able to play both of your gangs in one event. As far as the NPC goes, yeah, they'll need to have damaged vehicles - maybe a little at least. Fighting pristine vehicles every time wouldn't make much sense. ......................... vet wv Posted Jul 15, 2011, 4:25 pm

FireFly Anarcho-Pumpkin Privateers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 5,468 Joined: Mar 3, 2008 theHumungous said: As far as the NPC goes, yeah, they'll need to have damaged vehicles - maybe a little at least. Fighting pristine vehicles every time wouldn't make much sense. Haha, I remember 18 months or so back when this got removed  Edit, to be fair, it was only randomly damaged chassis, it would be cool if AI vehicles had random component damage applied at the start of an event, and a pristine weapon would be really rare... Actually Sam, question... In DW:Scavenger, will we be able to "Repair" equipment like we are right now, or is a 85% MG going to stay an 85% mg until you loot a fresh one? I hope for the latter myself  ......................... vet wv zom gateautumn deathrceL1 elmsautumn pvp1 pvp2 sssc raceL1 e2g combatL1 santa1 pvp3 gwextrav ww circuit32,18,0 Posted Jul 15, 2011, 5:45 pm Last edited Jul 15, 2011, 5:47 pm by FireFly

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 Serephe said: How easy would it be to make damage to items cause a variety of effects? For example a damaged rocket launcher could be less accurate OR jam OR have a lowered capacity OR explode prematurely. Just a thought. If they're gonna be using damaged gear, it'd be nice if damage to gear actually did something (beyond the current below 50% jamming we get). Could do all of those easily enough, yes. Again, the point is that by having DW:S in place, we can start to experiment with these sorts of changes properly without the soul-destroying backlash of complaints. And some of them will turn out to be really good changes... ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Jul 15, 2011, 6:20 pm

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 theHumungous said: I agree with being able to put your 'main' gang on vacation or somehow switching between the two - maybe at will. I mean, if you can send yourself anything anyway, what's it matter? Just shouldn't be able to play both of your gangs in one event. As far as the NPC goes, yeah, they'll need to have damaged vehicles - maybe a little at least. Fighting pristine vehicles every time wouldn't make much sense. Yeah, you should probably be able to switch at will, having reflected on it some more. This would greatly reduce the concern about this feature 'splitting the already small community' RE damage - yep! ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Jul 15, 2011, 6:21 pm

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 FireFly said: In DW:Scavenger, will we be able to "Repair" equipment like we are right now, or is a 85% MG going to stay an 85% mg until you loot a fresh one? I hope for the latter myself  I haven't decided. I think goat's suggestion was that some repairs would be possible provided you had your own mechanics and sufficient spare parts. Don't forget, if you take into account increased perma-damage, then repair won't be as effective as it is now. ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Jul 15, 2011, 6:24 pm

*Urban Decay* Old School Perverts Darkwind Guru Civs Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 1,023 Joined: Nov 8, 2007 Why not simply have the option to go into DW:S actually be separate from your main gang. That way your Scavenger gang could start at square one, and not be able to interact with non scavenger gangs. Could maintain your current gang, and have the scavenger version function independently. Have people looking for a scout in scavenger mode have a separate color in the SCT tag on lobby. Leave it like this during testing phases to allow more people to opt into it. Once testing completes you could then make the decision which gang you want to continue with. The other will be wiped off of the server and you continue as that version of your gang. By then balance issues can easily be sorted to have DW:S gangs scout alongside DW gangs. ......................... vet wv marshal raceL1 deathrceL10,4,0 Posted Jul 15, 2011, 6:42 pm

theHumungous Worldeaters Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 686 Joined: Jan 12, 2010 Repairing stuff is totally necessary, I think. That's part of it, kit-bashing your gear back together after a fight. That's one of the main draws to it in my eyes. Also... keeping my 'real' gang is important too! ......................... vet wv Posted Jul 15, 2011, 7:09 pm

Crazy AL Street Pizza Darkwind Guru Merchants Faction Group: Members Posts: 1,228 Joined: Feb 14, 2008 Serephe said: Groove Champion said: I'll try out DW:Scavenger. Don't want a second gang. Suck it up, cowards! But people want to have their cake and eat it too. Why the F#@K would I want to have cake I can't eat???? ......................... vet wv zom pvp1 ped1 Posted Jul 15, 2011, 7:46 pm

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