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AI Pathfinding improvements

*JeeTeeOh* Loose Cannons Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 1,796 Joined: Oct 18, 2010 Was on an escort run with Johnny Dread and the postal trucks we were escorting showed the same behavior. Not much running, a whole lot of getting shot up. Makes escort missions a bit more interesting.... ......................... vet wv e2g marshal cont deathrceL1 sssc Posted Jun 14, 2011, 12:30 am

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 I'm just putting thru a (server-side) patch to change the trader car decision-making a bit.. let me know if you see an improvement. ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Jun 14, 2011, 9:46 am

JuaN VaLDeZ Frontline Assembly Darkwind Guru Merchants Faction Group: Sinbinned Posts: 512 Joined: Mar 27, 2010 Try this for a new travel strategy to work with the pheromones... Drive around a hill and when they are on the other side, veer off and vector straight out. They will continue to go around even though it would be easier for them to just turn and chase. ......................... vet wv zom deathrceL1 Posted Jun 14, 2011, 9:57 am

putriddead CryptKeepers Sunday Driver Renegade Group: Members Posts: 64 Joined: Sep 10, 2007 Ive been hunting traders almost exclusively the last few days. They seem to circle around in the back for the most part. Sometimes the cargo vehicles will come back into the fray. I also a weird experience with a chomper and lorry where they both charged me and I ended up blowing the lorry to hell because it kept getting in my LoF on the chomp. Something is definitely amiss. Aside from that one though i kind of like it better, its more realistic that the cargo vehicles wouldnt just speed off to leave their comrades to die. I mean... they do have guns... ......................... vet wv0,1,0 Posted Jun 14, 2011, 10:13 am

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 putriddead said: its more realistic that the cargo vehicles wouldnt just speed off to leave their comrades to die. I mean... they do have guns... hmm, maybe this is the simpler solution then.. just make them all behave the same  ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Jun 14, 2011, 10:25 am

*Grograt* Grograts Gonads Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 8,377 Joined: Oct 5, 2008 there goes free lorries lol ......................... vet marshal wv community Posted Jun 14, 2011, 10:29 am

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,907 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 *sam* said: putriddead said: its more realistic that the cargo vehicles wouldnt just speed off to leave their comrades to die. I mean... they do have guns... hmm, maybe this is the simpler solution then.. just make them all behave the same  i agree... but stick their guns on the front ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted Jun 14, 2011, 2:54 pm

*JeeTeeOh* Loose Cannons Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 1,796 Joined: Oct 18, 2010 goat starer said: *sam* said: putriddead said: its more realistic that the cargo vehicles wouldnt just speed off to leave their comrades to die. I mean... they do have guns... hmm, maybe this is the simpler solution then.. just make them all behave the same  i agree... but stick their guns on the front Would definitely complicate the traditional strategy of "red the escorts and stare down the cargo vehicles till they quit." Gotta weigh the fact that they're actively assaulting you when deciding how important that undamaged cargo is.... ......................... vet wv e2g marshal cont deathrceL1 sssc Posted Jun 14, 2011, 3:35 pm

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,513 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 make escorts with rear weapons and make em all run together. ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,1 Posted Jun 14, 2011, 3:35 pm

*Tinker* BibleThumpers Anonymous Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 4,546 Joined: Aug 1, 2008 Bastille said: make escorts with rear weapons and make em all run together. thumbs up ......................... vet marshal wv pvp3 zom circuit2 pvp1 cont Posted Jun 14, 2011, 4:21 pm

Juris Hessians Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 1,706 Joined: Sep 16, 2010 Attack of the Trader Vans! I had this happen to me on a scout before the pathfinding update, so I think it's something else. Had a trader van go berserk and start dogfighting with me. Finally had to kill it. I thought it was cool. This shouldn't happen every scout, but every once in awhile is a good idea - the enemy shouldn't be 100% predictable. This would be even better if Trader Lorries came equipped with roll cages, mounted HSSs and RR on the front, and tried to ram (again, once in awhile) . It is kinda stupid that trader vehicles always ditch their escorts and try to outrun chaser vehicles they cannot possibly hope to beat. On a different matter, I'd like to see the occasional 'Q-ship' trader convoy - a convoy that looks like a trader squad from a distance but get up close and that Trader Lorry turns out to be a Gunship, and that Trader Van a Texas Strongarm... You think the Ironmongers would learn... ......................... vet wv pvp1 pvp5 pvp4 race1 zom pvp2 deathrce1 pvp3 combat1 Posted Jun 14, 2011, 6:52 pm

JuaN VaLDeZ Frontline Assembly Darkwind Guru Merchants Faction Group: Sinbinned Posts: 512 Joined: Mar 27, 2010 Before I had said that running around a hill was a easy way to lose the AI with the new pathing. I demonstrated that using one of that channels on lonesome highway. If this new pathing is to supposed to make the AI better at catching us, this is a good example of how a human can "out-think" a AI, while they continue in the opposite direction. S362963 Camera 1 is bookmarked for a grand viewpoint... ......................... vet wv zom deathrceL1 Posted Jun 16, 2011, 6:57 am

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 It's not related to the new pathfinding, Juan, it's their higher-level decision making that makes them decide *where* to go. The pathfinding only finds them a route after they have decided where. ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Jun 16, 2011, 9:48 am

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,513 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 Juris said: Attack of the Trader Vans!  I had this happen to me on a scout before the pathfinding update, so I think it's something else.  Had a trader van go berserk and start dogfighting with me.  Finally had to kill it.  I thought it was cool.  This shouldn't happen every scout, but every once in awhile is a good idea - the enemy shouldn't be 100% predictable.  This would be even better if Trader Lorries came equipped with roll cages, mounted HSSs and RR on the front, and tried to ram (again, once in awhile) . It is kinda stupid that trader vehicles always ditch their escorts and try to outrun chaser vehicles they cannot possibly hope to beat.  On a different matter, I'd like to see the occasional 'Q-ship' trader convoy - a convoy that looks like  a trader squad from a distance but get up close and that Trader Lorry turns out to be a Gunship, and that Trader Van a Texas Strongarm...  You think the Ironmongers would learn... this stuff sounds cool ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,1 Posted Jun 16, 2011, 12:26 pm

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,907 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 Quote: On a different matter, I'd like to see the occasional 'Q-ship' trader convoy - a convoy that looks like  a trader squad from a distance but get up close and that Trader Lorry turns out to be a Gunship, and that Trader Van a Texas Strongarm...  You think the Ironmongers would learn... q ship traders were suggested before.... a cracking idea... especially if it said trader lorry above the enemy vehicle right up to the moment it started firing its car cannon. ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted Jun 17, 2011, 1:44 pm

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,513 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 Is there someway the trader vehicle can change name during the event? starts off saying trader lorry, then switches to gunship when discovered. Ai through Oil slick has definitely improved ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,1 Posted Jun 17, 2011, 3:06 pm

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 goat starer said: Quote: On a different matter, I'd like to see the occasional 'Q-ship' trader convoy - a convoy that looks like  a trader squad from a distance but get up close and that Trader Lorry turns out to be a Gunship, and that Trader Van a Texas Strongarm...  You think the Ironmongers would learn... q ship traders were suggested before.... a cracking idea... especially if it said trader lorry above the enemy vehicle right up to the moment it started firing its car cannon. semi-randomised NPC builds were also suggested before.. would this be of general interest? so you weren't quite sure what weaps/armour they had ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Jun 17, 2011, 3:37 pm

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,513 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 yep ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,1 Posted Jun 17, 2011, 3:45 pm

Heywood Jablome PA Desk Jockeys Sunday Driver Renegade Group: Members Posts: 46 Joined: Apr 23, 2010 +1 ......................... vet wv Posted Jun 17, 2011, 7:38 pm

Snidely Carmichael Abysmal Horrors Autodueller Renegade Group: Members Posts: 256 Joined: Apr 7, 2010 *sam* said: semi-randomised NPC builds were also suggested before.. would this be of general interest? so you weren't quite sure what weaps/armour they had Absolutely! ......................... vet wv pvp5 pvp4 pvp2 pvp1 pvp3 Posted Jun 17, 2011, 7:44 pm

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