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AI Pathfinding improvements

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 Just to let you know I have patched in the 'pheromones' based pathfinding improvements for the NPCs in combats. They should be substantially better at finding their way around, hopefully.. please let me know how you find it.. (this was a server-side-only patch, btw) .. geeky academic research paper to follow next week ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Jun 10, 2011, 9:34 am Last edited Jun 10, 2011, 9:38 am by *sam*

*jimmylogan* MADHAT Darkwind Guru Civs Faction Group: Marshals + Rule Council Posts: 5,587 Joined: Jun 11, 2008 *sam* said: .. geeky academic research paper to follow next week  My favorite part of this post. Yep - I'm a geek too. ......................... vet marshal deathrceL1 wv community combatL1 Posted Jun 10, 2011, 12:07 pm

Stingray191 Bladerunners Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 678 Joined: Dec 9, 2008 I'm predicting Blood on the Sands for unsuspecting PCs. ......................... vet wv elmsautumn e2g ww Posted Jun 10, 2011, 12:20 pm

johnny go rancid Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 1,438 Joined: Mar 24, 2010 things are going to grt nasty ......................... vet wv Posted Jun 10, 2011, 12:21 pm

*Grograt* Grograts Gonads Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 8,377 Joined: Oct 5, 2008 NOW PEOPLE WILL UNDERSTAND MY ' DRIVING OF CLIFFS' STRATEGY ......................... vet marshal wv community Posted Jun 10, 2011, 12:34 pm

*Tango* 2ManyRads CI Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,543 Joined: Mar 21, 2010 first impression after two travels: AI is better at navigating roads, only one car from a pack of 4 got stuck in the water at Forever Yellow Skies, but the "Dog Chasing Its Tail" problem is worse. See S361325 and S361329 ......................... marshal vet wv pvp5 pvp4 combat1 pvp3 zom community Posted Jun 10, 2011, 1:08 pm

*Rev. V* Cestus Dei Darkwind Guru Civs Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 3,208 Joined: Aug 4, 2010 "NOW PEOPLE WILL UNDERSTAND MY ' DRIVING OF CLIFFS' STRATEGY" Grog, YOU don't even understand that..... ......................... vet wv zom marshal paintladder cont Posted Jun 10, 2011, 1:31 pm

Jeelz The Dionysian Dozen -CHQ- Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Members Posts: 1,054 Joined: Apr 30, 2009 Very limited testing by me so far, but the trader cars that should be running seem to be dagging around with escorts longer than they should, making for easier capture. Might just be a coincidence. (NF and SS gates) ......................... vet wv combatL1 raceL1 deathrceL1 paintladder Posted Jun 10, 2011, 2:54 pm

GrayRoad Hellz Accountantz Sunday Driver Renegade Group: Members Posts: 69 Joined: Jan 5, 2011 I'm seeing the same thing with the trader cars in SS. They have seemed to be easier to catch now. Travels have become harder though. I had trouble shaking pirates in Once Upon a Town twice tonight. You can still get them stuck on the buildings, but it is tougher. ......................... vet wv Posted Jun 11, 2011, 2:11 am Last edited Jun 11, 2011, 2:12 am by GrayRoad

Checkers Axis of Weevils Autodueller Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 355 Joined: Jul 17, 2010 All my travels thus far have been tougher. ......................... vet wv Posted Jun 11, 2011, 2:15 am

Juris Hessians Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 1,706 Joined: Sep 16, 2010 Routine travel, Road to SS S361536 Stayed on road and ran out to maximum to test the AI. AI did pretty well following road behind me. If I hadn't been in a fast mission runner it might've been trouble. ......................... vet wv pvp1 pvp5 pvp4 race1 zom pvp2 deathrce1 pvp3 combat1 Posted Jun 11, 2011, 2:31 am

Stingray191 Bladerunners Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 678 Joined: Dec 9, 2008 Just running a quick Flash along Scattered Grounds. Half the AI followed the road quite well while half got lost almost immediately. S361573 ......................... vet wv elmsautumn e2g ww Posted Jun 11, 2011, 5:21 am Last edited Jun 11, 2011, 5:22 am by Stingray191

80s Rogue Traders Sunday Driver Renegade Group: Members Posts: 28 Joined: May 10, 2010 The pathing seems 50-80% better for most of the NPC rigs in GW as of late. Similar to how v8 rigs used to be. I've always found NPC vehicles with v8s to be less inclined to drive off the cliffs and better at negotiating round the sides. 361600 Will be very interesting to see how the v8s roll around now! Just finished a 2nd Monger hunt where the runners turned back towards the fight to demo without much encouragement. The 1st hunt saw the runners behave a lot like the fighters till they started to get beat up, then they hoofed it as per normal. ......................... vet wv Posted Jun 11, 2011, 11:53 am

*Ninesticks* The Wombles Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals + Rule Council Posts: 3,371 Joined: Apr 11, 2008 Can confirm the reports that the new pathfinding is messing with trader cargo type vehicles, every time they act just like standard AI cars rather than running. ......................... vet wv marshal pvp4 community pvp20,1,0 Posted Jun 11, 2011, 7:03 pm

JS Hitmen Trucking Inc -CI- Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 3,238 Joined: Jan 9, 2010 *Ninesticks* said: Can confirm the reports that the new pathfinding is messing with trader cargo type vehicles, every time they act just like standard AI cars rather than running. I had some run, and then turn back around and come back.  I had chased so I may have helped them decide that, but one was quite far away and it came a long way back to go right at me. ......................... vet wv pvp5 pvp3 pvp4 Posted Jun 11, 2011, 7:14 pm

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,513 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 funny watching a trader pho running at you and then quickly trying to turn its bum in your direction. ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,1 Posted Jun 12, 2011, 5:30 am

JS Hitmen Trucking Inc -CI- Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 3,238 Joined: Jan 9, 2010 One thing is for sure. It's an overall improvement. They avoid going into holes and the spots we all tried to hang them up on. Good stuff. ......................... vet wv pvp5 pvp3 pvp4 Posted Jun 12, 2011, 11:26 am

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 I'll have a look into the trader behaviour - it's a strange one though, since their decision making hasn't been changed, this was only a change to the low-level pathfinding.. i.e. they're still choosing the same places to drive to as before, but are tending to favour those routes that players use now, rather than simply the shortest routes ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Jun 12, 2011, 11:46 am Last edited Jun 12, 2011, 11:47 am by *sam*

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,907 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 nine and i had a car turn round yesterday and run away for ages... it was like it was stuck on the wrong trail ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted Jun 13, 2011, 7:18 pm

Jeelz The Dionysian Dozen -CHQ- Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Members Posts: 1,054 Joined: Apr 30, 2009 I've done a few more small scouts with traders around SS and for me at least, it is significantly easier to get the trade cars. ......................... vet wv combatL1 raceL1 deathrceL1 paintladder Posted Jun 14, 2011, 12:15 am

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