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*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 Bastiel said: back to the point at hand, I guess we have to go hunt some traders to go find these... what they called.. chayn sor? I added a bunch of them to spawn gradually in the NPC shops over the next 24 hours. Also, camps should find them easy to make. edit: I see Arizona currently has a sword for sale at the low low price of $251 ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted May 16, 2011, 11:18 am Last edited May 16, 2011, 11:20 am by *sam*

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,513 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,1 Posted May 16, 2011, 11:28 am

FireFly Anarcho-Pumpkin Privateers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 5,468 Joined: Mar 3, 2008 Mwahahah, SS hero point! Now to rush home from school and try these things!!! ......................... vet wv zom gateautumn deathrceL1 elmsautumn pvp1 pvp2 sssc raceL1 e2g combatL1 santa1 pvp3 gwextrav ww circuit32,18,0 Posted May 16, 2011, 11:42 am

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 Careful, you can easily lose an eye, or an arm, or.. other miscellaneous bits.. ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted May 16, 2011, 11:57 am

FireFly Anarcho-Pumpkin Privateers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 5,468 Joined: Mar 3, 2008 Sam, have you ever heard of "The way of a Meatshield"? That's supposed to happen to them ......................... vet wv zom gateautumn deathrceL1 elmsautumn pvp1 pvp2 sssc raceL1 e2g combatL1 santa1 pvp3 gwextrav ww circuit32,18,0 Posted May 16, 2011, 12:05 pm

*Rev. V* Cestus Dei Darkwind Guru Civs Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 3,208 Joined: Aug 4, 2010 I just bought a chainsaw in Texan.... ......................... vet wv zom marshal paintladder cont Posted May 16, 2011, 1:13 pm

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,513 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 hmmm, now where to use it *sam* said: Careful, you can easily lose an eye, or an arm, or.. other miscellaneous bits.. That rememinds me, soon to hit the best sellers stands "Why being a Reverend is better than being a eunuch" by Rev V ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,1 Posted May 16, 2011, 1:59 pm

Snidely Carmichael Abysmal Horrors Autodueller Renegade Group: Members Posts: 256 Joined: Apr 7, 2010 *Rev. V* said: I just bought a chainsaw in Texan.... Rev, if you're taking requests, I would like to most humbly suggest a ditty about spiked baseball bats. ......................... vet wv pvp5 pvp4 pvp2 pvp1 pvp3 Posted May 16, 2011, 6:45 pm

*Rev. V* Cestus Dei Darkwind Guru Civs Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 3,208 Joined: Aug 4, 2010 I've already said that the next song will be about brothels.....and nuns... And there is NO way it can be anything but......\m/ METAL! \m/ ......................... vet wv zom marshal paintladder cont Posted May 16, 2011, 6:56 pm

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,907 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 *sam* said: Bastiel said: Can the attack be an attack and move, so anything within the circle is targetable? you have to move to it still to attack. Thinking so you can still run from a melee attack outside of the current 2.5m distance. Just extending the melee distance might end up with melee attacks in midair doing damage to someone obviously out of range. So the ped's actual movement is over-ridden to follow the target rather than their previous movement orders; yes, that's a good idea. i'm not sure it is.... it makes it impossible to make an unpredictable move to throw off a guy closing on you... which is entirely possible in real life. ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted May 16, 2011, 10:34 pm

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,513 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 would it though? If you attack, you make a half move and attack, if you run, you make a full move. ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,1 Posted May 17, 2011, 1:07 am Last edited May 17, 2011, 3:18 am by Bastiel

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 goat starer said: *sam* said: Bastiel said: Can the attack be an attack and move, so anything within the circle is targetable? you have to move to it still to attack. Thinking so you can still run from a melee attack outside of the current 2.5m distance. Just extending the melee distance might end up with melee attacks in midair doing damage to someone obviously out of range. So the ped's actual movement is over-ridden to follow the target rather than their previous movement orders; yes, that's a good idea. i'm not sure it is.... it makes it impossible to make an unpredictable move to throw off a guy closing on you... which is entirely possible in real life. If you're faster at running, you'll get out of range. Speed as the factor that decides who catches and who avoids seems ok to me. I don't think it's worth getting *too* detailed with this stuff really, since melee will never be core gameplay. ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted May 17, 2011, 8:05 am

Joel Autobaun Joels Bastards Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Sinbinned Posts: 4,598 Joined: Nov 10, 2008 *sam* said: goat starer said: *sam* said: Bastiel said: Can the attack be an attack and move, so anything within the circle is targetable? you have to move to it still to attack. Thinking so you can still run from a melee attack outside of the current 2.5m distance. Just extending the melee distance might end up with melee attacks in midair doing damage to someone obviously out of range. So the ped's actual movement is over-ridden to follow the target rather than their previous movement orders; yes, that's a good idea. i'm not sure it is.... it makes it impossible to make an unpredictable move to throw off a guy closing on you... which is entirely possible in real life. If you're faster at running, you'll get out of range. Speed as the factor that decides who catches and who avoids seems ok to me. I don't think it's worth getting *too* detailed with this stuff really, since melee will never be core gameplay. It's fine, but dex should play a major role in melee- because dex for the most part is the weak stat. ......................... vet northernsummer deathrce1 raceL1 deathrceL1 ww ped1 sssc paintball semiprocombat ped2 e2g gwextrav gwped combat1 paintladder elmsautumn gateautumn wv race1 combatL1 pvp1 pvp5 pvp4 zom pvp3 circuit1 pvp2 circuit2 circuit3 ss2fl67 slay2013 storm2013 geek triangle198,96,31 Posted May 17, 2011, 1:37 pm

Serephe Collision Force Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 3,496 Joined: Dec 9, 2007 Dex and strength should play a greater role in everything. Ideally, all stats should be equally desirable. A gang focusing on dexterity should make great snipers, speed would put in a ton of hurt close up, strength would be able to take a pounding making them great for players who don't care about taking damage, etc. ......................... vet wv paintladder ww0,3,0 Posted May 17, 2011, 3:50 pm

Joel Autobaun Joels Bastards Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Sinbinned Posts: 4,598 Joined: Nov 10, 2008 Pretty much how str works currently. It's fine , Speed is fine , Dex is ####. ......................... vet northernsummer deathrce1 raceL1 deathrceL1 ww ped1 sssc paintball semiprocombat ped2 e2g gwextrav gwped combat1 paintladder elmsautumn gateautumn wv race1 combatL1 pvp1 pvp5 pvp4 zom pvp3 circuit1 pvp2 circuit2 circuit3 ss2fl67 slay2013 storm2013 geek triangle198,96,31 Posted May 17, 2011, 3:55 pm

Crazy AL Street Pizza Darkwind Guru Merchants Faction Group: Members Posts: 1,228 Joined: Feb 14, 2008 Joel Autobaun said: Pretty much how str works currently.  It's fine , Speed is fine , Dex is ####. Dex should help with thrown accuracy and reloading times if it doesn't already. ......................... vet wv zom pvp1 ped1 Posted May 17, 2011, 5:48 pm

Serephe Collision Force Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 3,496 Joined: Dec 9, 2007 You can say strength works like that if you want, but all I've seen it doing is increasing throwing range and tipping cars over. We need an endurance stat, something that actually DOES noticably help with bullet resistance. ......................... vet wv paintladder ww0,3,0 Posted May 17, 2011, 7:37 pm

Flaming savage Mirrored Pain Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 1,788 Joined: Jan 21, 2007 Anu char with below 2 million dex should not be able to use a laser IMO. Also, now that we have a slashy hits table can we get ballistic knives? Or laser guided chainswords? ......................... vet wv raceL1 pvp2 combatL1 Posted May 17, 2011, 9:40 pm Last edited May 17, 2011, 9:41 pm by Flaming savage

The Paranoid Tourist Precipitous Treachery Darkwind Guru Slavers Faction Group: Members Posts: 1,828 Joined: Jan 12, 2007 Serephe said: You can say strength works like that if you want, but all I've seen it doing is increasing throwing range and tipping cars over. We need an endurance stat, something that actually DOES noticably help with bullet resistance. Bullet resistance is one thing–if your heart is destroyed, you're dead, no matter your strength–but the ability and time taken to recover from injuries, especially multiple injuries, is much better with stronger gangers in my experience. ......................... vet gateautumn gwextrav raceL1 wv e2g0,2,0 Posted May 17, 2011, 10:28 pm

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