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Garage Fees and Lockup Fees

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 Garage fees and lockup fees will start being charged to your gangs, each week, starting this Friday morning 3.50am server time (approx). Garage fees are based on the total value of your vehicles. Lockup fees are based on the total bulk of items in your lockup. These fees also vary by town: they're cheapest in Elmsfield, cheap in Somerset, and more expensive in the truckstops. These fees only apply to subscribers, and don't apply if you have 'vacation mode' set. As an indicator of what to expect, see below. Note that it should be fairly easy to trim down your expenses by selling off all those extra tyres, machine guns etc. in your lockup, and selling any surplus vehicles. I will re-post the current expected fees in 2 days time, so that you get a good indication of what effect any spring-cleaning you carry out in the meantime will make. Clarinbridge Crushers: total fees 1187, number of vehicles: 9 Pole Position: total fees 101, number of vehicles: 3 Brutal Chauffeurs Deluxe: total fees 133, number of vehicles: 2 Legends of the Interstate: total fees 7, number of vehicles: 0 molotov ####tails: total fees 20, number of vehicles: 1 First Bank of Somerset: total fees 770, number of vehicles: 4 the knights that say nee: total fees 20, number of vehicles: 1 GovermantResistance: total fees 8515, number of vehicles: 61 Road Ronins: total fees 729, number of vehicles: 7 Mambas Maniacs: total fees 5249, number of vehicles: 23 Toecutters: total fees 5884, number of vehicles: 32 The Desolators: total fees 295, number of vehicles: 2 Edgerunners: total fees 126, number of vehicles: 2 Kestrels: total fees 42, number of vehicles: 1 Fish Heads: total fees 15880, number of vehicles: 63 Atomic Punks: total fees 1832, number of vehicles: 14 Barna Bombers: total fees 0, number of vehicles: 0 Gearjammers: total fees 2541, number of vehicles: 17 Famiglia Rivera: total fees 4455, number of vehicles: 27 Pestilence: total fees 14524, number of vehicles: 47 Advanced Research labs: total fees 41605, number of vehicles: 187 Vigilante Knights: total fees 5062, number of vehicles: 25 Advanced Race Labs: total fees 22160, number of vehicles: 94 Midnight Marauders: total fees 102, number of vehicles: 1 Spanner Monkeys: total fees 179, number of vehicles: 2 Hungry Hyenas: total fees 16556, number of vehicles: 64 The Henricks: total fees 589, number of vehicles: 7 Dead Celebrity: total fees 7191, number of vehicles: 34 SplashandBurn: total fees 308, number of vehicles: 3 DemonKnights: total fees 6199, number of vehicles: 33 The Vagabonds: total fees 106, number of vehicles: 1 Wezs Berserkers: total fees 2038, number of vehicles: 10 Waghlon Crashed Here: total fees 0, number of vehicles: 0 Amphobos: total fees 85, number of vehicles: 1 COCO AND THE BURPERS: total fees 527, number of vehicles: 3 The Interceptors: total fees 263, number of vehicles: 2 wills~wallibeas: total fees 0, number of vehicles: 0 Bumbleclot: total fees 10269, number of vehicles: 48 Abbattoir Boys: total fees 90, number of vehicles: 1 Jags Marauders: total fees 65, number of vehicles: 1 Children of the Cathedral: total fees 8, number of vehicles: 0 Epilogue: total fees 1789, number of vehicles: 9 The Corpse Punchers: total fees 2052, number of vehicles: 10 The Khans: total fees 301, number of vehicles: 2 WAAAGH: total fees 0, number of vehicles: 0 Mullet Madness: total fees 112, number of vehicles: 1 Traintop Ramblers: total fees 286, number of vehicles: 3 Twisted Sisters: total fees 560, number of vehicles: 4 Hell on Wheelz: total fees 367, number of vehicles: 4 Inzpired: total fees 1371, number of vehicles: 8 Rotten Tomato: total fees 131, number of vehicles: 2 THE EMPIRE: total fees 228, number of vehicles: 1 TovaKnights: total fees 109, number of vehicles: 1 Smoke me a kipper: total fees 111, number of vehicles: 1 Highway Stars: total fees 147, number of vehicles: 2 Hit n Run: total fees 322, number of vehicles: 3 Trucido: total fees 457, number of vehicles: 4 Team Bansi: total fees 567, number of vehicles: 1 R.Inc.: total fees 76, number of vehicles: 1 Dawg Pound: total fees 74, number of vehicles: 1 Riotous Assembly: total fees 279, number of vehicles: 2 Lupos: total fees 127, number of vehicles: 1 ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Aug 27, 2007, 3:04 pm Last edited Aug 27, 2007, 3:05 pm by *sam*

*Ayjona* Edgerunners Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 515 Joined: Dec 6, 2006 While I really like this addition, I'm curious about something: what is the reasoning behind basing the garage fees on the total value of our vehicles? Do garage fees include regular maintenance, perhaps? (This is assuming more expensive cars cost more to maintain, which might not always be the case) ......................... vet marshal wv Posted Aug 27, 2007, 3:09 pm Last edited Aug 27, 2007, 3:10 pm by Ayjona

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 Quote: Do garage fees include regular maintenance, perhaps? (This is assuming more expensive cars cost more to maintain, which might not always be the case) Yes, that's right. Regular maintenance is important, as the climate in Evan is very unfriendly to your vehicles. But also there's an element of security being paid for. Jake claims to protect your cars from thieves when they're in his garage, but who knows maybe it's just a protection racket  ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Aug 27, 2007, 3:14 pm

Seiler Pestilence Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Storytellers Posts: 946 Joined: Apr 29, 2007 Just curious, what does one get charged if his vehicles are travelling? ......................... vet deathrceL1 wv Posted Aug 27, 2007, 3:22 pm

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 Whichever town they were most recently at defines their garage fee. ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Aug 27, 2007, 3:23 pm

Alocalypse Advanced Race Labs Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 2,236 Joined: May 6, 2007 Are trade goods also taxed by bulk just like items? ......................... vet deathrce1 raceL1 race1 combat1 northernsummer gateautumn elmsautumn deathrceL1 semiprocombat wv cont Posted Aug 27, 2007, 3:42 pm

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 Yes ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Aug 27, 2007, 3:44 pm

ISHOULDCOCO COCO and the BURPERS Darkwind Guru Civs Faction Group: Storytellers Posts: 1,440 Joined: Jul 5, 2007 Is it cheaper to store stuff in vehicle cargo or in the lock up? A single tire , for instance ? COCO ......................... vet wv Posted Aug 27, 2007, 4:14 pm

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 It depends on the bulk and value of the item. If it's bulky and cheap, it's better inside a vehicle; if its valuable and compact, its better in the lockup. ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Aug 27, 2007, 5:33 pm

*Toecutter* Toecutters Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 945 Joined: Oct 31, 2006 Quote: Advanced Research labs: total fees 41605, number of vehicles: 187 LOL  ......................... marshal vet race1 elmsautumn wv Posted Aug 27, 2007, 5:35 pm

xander Advanced Research Labs Autodueller Renegade Group: Members Posts: 395 Joined: May 8, 2007 *Toecutter* said: Quote: Advanced Research labs: total fees 41605, number of vehicles: 187 LOL  it was 49k yesterday, but were still working on it . ......................... vet deathrceL1 gateautumn raceL1 semiprocombat race1 deathrce1 combat1 wv Posted Aug 27, 2007, 7:35 pm

Jansan Vigilante Knights Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 1,070 Joined: May 7, 2007 The fees seem reasonable. ......................... vet Posted Aug 27, 2007, 7:59 pm

Kelaparan Hungry Hyenas Autodueller Renegade Group: Members Posts: 288 Joined: May 22, 2007 I'm already trying to calculate how many npcs need to die to fund my car collecting habit. "nooo Sabre dogs! Come back, I only need your cars and carcasses, so I can pay for more stuff!" I'm sure there is a lesson in there somewhere about avarice, but I choose to ignore it. Anyways, I was wondering, since the fees are based on the value of the vehicles, and the cost of the vehicles are higher in the "cheaper" towns and vice versa, are the garage fees REALLY cheaper in elms and somerset compared to gateway and badlands? Would be great to be able to get the summary information you are providing on a town by town basis, either in the "info" page or at the mechanic's shops in the towns. So anyone want to buy some cars? (my babies!) ......................... vet Posted Aug 28, 2007, 12:30 am

*Chase Bansi* Team Bansi Darkwind Guru Merchants Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 693 Joined: Aug 13, 2007 Great system, should be a good improvement. I guess I should get my pick up out of the truckstop though, that could hurt over an extended period! ......................... marshal vet gateautumn wv e2g0,1,0 Posted Aug 28, 2007, 12:37 am

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 Quote: since the fees are based on the value of the vehicles, and the cost of the vehicles are higher in the "cheaper" towns and vice versa, are the garage fees REALLY cheaper in elms and somerset compared to gateway and badlands? The fees are based on the 'true' value of your vehicles, rather than the local market cost. So yes, garage fees really are cheapest in Elmsfield  I've added info. to your 'My Gang' page, so your lockup fees are shown. I've also made it so that if you view a vehicle while visiting a mechanic shop, you'll see its current weekly garage fees. ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Aug 28, 2007, 2:28 pm Last edited Aug 28, 2007, 2:29 pm by *sam*

xander Advanced Research Labs Autodueller Renegade Group: Members Posts: 395 Joined: May 8, 2007 I dont wanna be a bother, but can you make it so the total garage fees also show on the main page? ......................... vet deathrceL1 gateautumn raceL1 semiprocombat race1 deathrce1 combat1 wv Posted Aug 28, 2007, 3:11 pm

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 Quote: I dont wanna be a bother, but can you make it so the total garage fees also show on the main page? The reason I didn't do this is because there's a few heavy-duty SQL queries going on for this, and I don't want to unnecessarily load the server just because you have opened up your gang page. What I can do however is put a button on your gang page: "Show Total Garage Fees" ? ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Aug 28, 2007, 4:17 pm

*JD_Basher* Gearjammers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals + Storytellers Posts: 2,728 Joined: Feb 11, 2007 The "Garage Fees" button would be a nice touch... I like the lockup fees shown......it's a big help.... thanks. ......................... vet marshal wv cont Posted Aug 28, 2007, 5:00 pm

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 OK, try it now (from your vehicles list on your gang page) ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Aug 28, 2007, 5:21 pm

*viKKing* Skulls And Bones Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 4,249 Joined: Oct 12, 2006 It works! Thanks Sam. ......................... vet cont zom slay2013 marshal wv Posted Aug 28, 2007, 5:56 pm

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