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Joel is truly a Bastard

Hogfather Hogs of Destiny Racer Renegade Group: Members Posts: 119 Joined: Mar 8, 2011 I just wanted to spread word about an act of extreme douchebaggery I witnessed last night. It was an event for the Ped Combat League - the two human particapants were Naite (Piglets of Fate) and Joel's Bastards. Joel had 150 skill handgunners, so he was rocking the even which is unsurprising.  However he seemed to have connectivity issues and was timing out repeatedly.  Naite (against my advice) used multiple timeouts of his own until Joel got a stable connection. Naite easily could have killed off Joel's unresponsive gangers, but didn't.  How did Joel repay this honorable and generous action?  Did he give Naite the option to resign with 2nd place? Nope. He killed off Naite's gangers. I'm not say he griefed, I'm just pointing out his extreme lack of class. [DELETED BY SAM: UNNECESSARILY ABUSIVE AND SLANDEROUS] Added Response: - Its not slander or unfounded - its the truth.  Also, I am told to shut up and not post complaints in the forums? Where the hell else would I post this? You claim that the community with handle negative actions of players, but not if they don't hear about it. I understand why only many people have opted to ignore the forums altogether. ......................... vet wv paintball Posted Apr 20, 2011, 3:24 pm Last edited Apr 20, 2011, 5:41 pm by Hogfather

shama Shamas Rammers Racer Renegade Group: Members Posts: 110 Joined: Apr 1, 2011 Hey it's ok, the veteran players police themselves and so picking on newbies doesn't happen ... ......................... vet wv Posted Apr 20, 2011, 3:30 pm

FireFly Anarcho-Pumpkin Privateers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 5,468 Joined: Mar 3, 2008 lol, that sounds like some BS... It was a pedestrian combat event, what did you expect? him to NOT shoot at you? Naite played nice, that's all good, but the real question here is... Did he kill his characters before or after they got knocked unconscious? Because if they were still up, they could still shoot him, meaning he has all the right in the world to shoot them. And if Naite really wanted to resign with second place, he should have hit the "Surrender" button and tell joel that, and get the heck out of his firing line, I know joel, he'll kill you in a flash if you wrong him but he wont kill you for no reason. ......................... vet wv zom gateautumn deathrceL1 elmsautumn pvp1 pvp2 sssc raceL1 e2g combatL1 santa1 pvp3 gwextrav ww circuit32,18,0 Posted Apr 20, 2011, 3:37 pm Last edited Apr 20, 2011, 3:38 pm by FireFly

Joel Autobaun Joels Bastards Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Sinbinned Posts: 4,598 Joined: Nov 10, 2008 I would have loved for him to resign. That event ran to like 150 turns! I was slightly ticked he burned 11 turns as I arrived a couple mins late(yes my fault I can't complain.), then he did call some TOs for me (very nice thanks). I had some connect issues and also a real life emerg. I got a points advantage and actually would have resigned myself if Piglets managed to shoot the rest of my team, I still would have had more points if he got the 1.5 bonus. But one of the stupid NPCs fell in the pit. I knew I'd have to burn through 180 turns (I sure as hell wasn't going to charge him with a massive point advantage). I managed to KO one of his open guys and the other two were entrenched in cover in the bunker. So I started burning turns and so did he. Then he came out of the bunker, he had managed to shoot some more npcs and get more points , so I actually had to eliminate his team. Perhaps he didn't know that he could right click and resign his team and the event would end, as the npcs on his team were all on the ground lying still? I found Piglets a very good opponent and this post is merely to defend myself from Hogfather's slander. For accuracy my people are as follows: Wendy brooks : 109 HG Matha Harley : 125 HG Paul Tuttle : 64 HG ( and grenaded himself into a coma) ......................... vet northernsummer deathrce1 raceL1 deathrceL1 ww ped1 sssc paintball semiprocombat ped2 e2g gwextrav gwped combat1 paintladder elmsautumn gateautumn wv race1 combatL1 pvp1 pvp5 pvp4 zom pvp3 circuit1 pvp2 circuit2 circuit3 ss2fl67 slay2013 storm2013 geek triangle198,96,31 Posted Apr 20, 2011, 3:37 pm Last edited Apr 20, 2011, 3:42 pm by Joel Autobaun

The Paranoid Tourist Precipitous Treachery Darkwind Guru Slavers Faction Group: Members Posts: 1,828 Joined: Jan 12, 2007 I've got to defend him, too. Joel will do what it takes to win and never more... unless he's been wronged. Where's Naite in this? Seems we're missing the actual "victim." ......................... vet gateautumn gwextrav raceL1 wv e2g0,2,0 Posted Apr 20, 2011, 3:44 pm

Joel Autobaun Joels Bastards Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Sinbinned Posts: 4,598 Joined: Nov 10, 2008 Paul "Junior" Tuttle is at the typical "end game" of the ped combat league: 2010-06-13 Injury: punctured lung and broken ribs 2010-10-06 Injury: chipped shoulder blade 2010-10-06 Injury: minor arm muscle damage 2010-10-31 Injury: broken ribs, torn chest muscles and tendons 2010-10-31 Injury: ripped calf muscle 2010-10-31 Injury: shattered shoulder bone 2010-11-20 Injury: shrapnel in thigh 2010-12-08 Injury: smashed elbow bone and tendons 2010-12-21 Injury: fractured wrist 2010-12-21 Injury: smashed elbow bone and tendons 2010-12-21 Injury: smashed elbow bone and tendons 2011-01-26 Injury: fractured wrist 2011-01-26 Injury: fractured wrist 2011-01-26 Injury: badly bruised stomach 2011-02-07 Injury: broken ribs 2011-02-16 Injury: shrapnel in thigh 2011-02-16 Injury: broken ribs, damaged muscles and tendons 2011-02-16 Injury: broken collar bone 2011-02-16 Injury: damaged lung and chest 2011-03-04 Injury: smashed elbow bone and tendons 2011-03-04 Injury: fractured wrist 2011-03-25 Injury: unconscious 2011-03-25 Injury: fractured hip 2011-04-20 Injury: in a coma He has had a good career, will be sad to see him die, in the arena (it happens) or in the hospital. ......................... vet northernsummer deathrce1 raceL1 deathrceL1 ww ped1 sssc paintball semiprocombat ped2 e2g gwextrav gwped combat1 paintladder elmsautumn gateautumn wv race1 combatL1 pvp1 pvp5 pvp4 zom pvp3 circuit1 pvp2 circuit2 circuit3 ss2fl67 slay2013 storm2013 geek triangle198,96,31 Posted Apr 20, 2011, 3:44 pm

*Grograt* Grograts Gonads Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 8,377 Joined: Oct 5, 2008 Hogfather, surely if the player in question has a problem it is down to him to post here and not you. also please try and be aware there is a TOS here and attcking players by name and being abusive is frowned upon if a moderator is to see your post i am sure they would delete or lock it Please try and not bring this kind of topic into the forum, if you have a problem take it up with the player in PM ......................... vet marshal wv community Posted Apr 20, 2011, 3:59 pm Last edited Apr 20, 2011, 3:59 pm by *Grograt*

*Rev. V* Cestus Dei Darkwind Guru Civs Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 3,208 Joined: Aug 4, 2010 I'd have nicknamed Paul "Lucky"... ......................... vet wv zom marshal paintladder cont Posted Apr 20, 2011, 4:00 pm

Joel Autobaun Joels Bastards Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Sinbinned Posts: 4,598 Joined: Nov 10, 2008 *Rev. V* said: I'd have nicknamed Paul "Lucky"... I usually only nickname gangers after special "events", In his case I named 3 mechs after American Chopper guys, when they were training in Sars for camp duty.  Paul couldn't even do that properly. ......................... vet northernsummer deathrce1 raceL1 deathrceL1 ww ped1 sssc paintball semiprocombat ped2 e2g gwextrav gwped combat1 paintladder elmsautumn gateautumn wv race1 combatL1 pvp1 pvp5 pvp4 zom pvp3 circuit1 pvp2 circuit2 circuit3 ss2fl67 slay2013 storm2013 geek triangle198,96,31 Posted Apr 20, 2011, 4:02 pm

shama Shamas Rammers Racer Renegade Group: Members Posts: 110 Joined: Apr 1, 2011 My reply comment was obviously flippant, and more related to other 'player killing' threads than this particular incident - which I know nothing of, not having seen a replay. My apologies if it appears otherwise ... ......................... vet wv Posted Apr 20, 2011, 4:04 pm

*Longo* Longos Merry Men Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 6,659 Joined: Dec 15, 2007 You can beat high end HGers with new hires. I do it every year. Those 3 guys were screaming for Joel the last match of the GW league last year. He just outpointed me for the league win, but he very easily could have lost 1 or 2 of those guys to my new hires. Ive never seen Joel not honor a resignation. You Hogs/Pigs gotta realize that the Ped league is ruthless. Expect to die. If you shoot an unconscious guy and kill him, thats one thing. But dont expect anyone to "give" you second. I wont, unless you ask me and their is no chance that you can beat me. ......................... vet combatL1 ped1 paintladder semiprocombat ped2 wv pvp4 pvp1 gwped paintball pvp3 pvp5 slay2013 marshal circuit2 combat1 e2g raceL1 gwextrav gateautumn pvp2 triangle1 Posted Apr 20, 2011, 4:05 pm

Kornkob The Dude Urban Achievers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 1,022 Joined: Jan 10, 2010 The Paranoid Tourist said: Where's Naite in this? Seems we're missing the actual "victim." Seeing as Naite and Hogfather are either close RL friends or related (I can't recall which) it isn't such a far fetched thing for the one to speak on behalf of the other.  ......................... vet wv Posted Apr 20, 2011, 4:06 pm

*Grograt* Grograts Gonads Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 8,377 Joined: Oct 5, 2008 Even so does this really need to come onto the forum ? ......................... vet marshal wv community Posted Apr 20, 2011, 4:07 pm

iceman Sock Monkey Killaz Darkwind Guru Civs Faction Group: Members Posts: 924 Joined: May 13, 2009 So Joel also wants open pvp... ....wonder how that one is going to work out... ......................... vet wv Posted Apr 20, 2011, 4:10 pm

Joel Autobaun Joels Bastards Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Sinbinned Posts: 4,598 Joined: Nov 10, 2008 iceman said: So Joel also wants open pvp... ....wonder how that one is going to work out... Maybe we need a flag for town events, so no one can get hurt in those either? *shrug* ......................... vet northernsummer deathrce1 raceL1 deathrceL1 ww ped1 sssc paintball semiprocombat ped2 e2g gwextrav gwped combat1 paintladder elmsautumn gateautumn wv race1 combatL1 pvp1 pvp5 pvp4 zom pvp3 circuit1 pvp2 circuit2 circuit3 ss2fl67 slay2013 storm2013 geek triangle198,96,31 Posted Apr 20, 2011, 4:14 pm

Kornkob The Dude Urban Achievers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 1,022 Joined: Jan 10, 2010 *Grograt* said: Even so does this really need to come onto the forum ? How else would the community respond to an instance of griefing? I'm not saying Joel was griefing in this case---I'm not talking a side on this one, not having seen the replay.  I'm asking because I've seen repeated statements that PvP griefers would be 'dealt with' by the community.  How else would a person who feels wronged engage the community than to bring their dispute to the forums?    ......................... vet wv Posted Apr 20, 2011, 4:16 pm

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,907 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 Kornkob The Dude said: The Paranoid Tourist said: Where's Naite in this? Seems we're missing the actual "victim." Seeing as Naite and Hogfather are either close RL friends or related (I can't recall which) it isn't such a far fetched thing for the one to speak on behalf of the other.  or the same person multiple accounts!!! ban him!!!  ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted Apr 20, 2011, 4:18 pm

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 The key point here, in a ped arena combat, is: did Joel shoot any characters who were already unconscious? If he did, this may need investigating. If he didn't, Hog is wasting all our time here. ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Apr 20, 2011, 4:21 pm Last edited Apr 20, 2011, 4:22 pm by *sam*

FireFly Anarcho-Pumpkin Privateers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 5,468 Joined: Mar 3, 2008 *sam* said: The key point here, in a ped arena combat, is: did Joel shoot any characters who were already unconscious? If he did, this may need investigating. If he didn't, Hog is wasting all our time here. Even if he did "Execute" characters that would still be rather acceptable RP move, specially since it's a pedestrian combat. However, the community usually don't like it when people do that  ......................... vet wv zom gateautumn deathrceL1 elmsautumn pvp1 pvp2 sssc raceL1 e2g combatL1 santa1 pvp3 gwextrav ww circuit32,18,0 Posted Apr 20, 2011, 4:23 pm

Joel Autobaun Joels Bastards Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Sinbinned Posts: 4,598 Joined: Nov 10, 2008 *sam* said: The key point here, in a ped arena combat, is: did Joel shoot any characters who were already unconscious? If he did, this may need investigating. If he didn't, Hog is wasting all our time here. Wow Seriously? I didn't ..but still ...seriously? Did you investigate that guy that did that to Longo?  Was it sharky? ......................... vet northernsummer deathrce1 raceL1 deathrceL1 ww ped1 sssc paintball semiprocombat ped2 e2g gwextrav gwped combat1 paintladder elmsautumn gateautumn wv race1 combatL1 pvp1 pvp5 pvp4 zom pvp3 circuit1 pvp2 circuit2 circuit3 ss2fl67 slay2013 storm2013 geek triangle198,96,31 Posted Apr 20, 2011, 4:24 pm

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