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*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,781 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 1. This patch finalises the effects on driving of paint (I was waiting for an engine patch to do so). 2. We are trialling some changes to the Sniper specialism on Large Guns. I can tell you that the Rules Council discussed this one at great length, and it certainly wasn't a snap decision. Basically, Sniper is now less effective with Large Guns weapons that with regular Gunnery weapons. We will be assessing how this is panning out in a few weeks, and re-tweaking if necessary. 3. Bullethole decals! Watch your cars get torn to shreds! For the moment these will tend to look kinda randomly placed, because I need to look at each separate chassis type and have the 6 vehicle sides (Fr,Re,Le,Ri,To,Bo) mapped in their textures.. for each of these 6 sides we need to record the Top Left and Bottom Right corners, in pixel positions. It's not a big deal, just a few minutes per car. I will start to work through these, one or two a day. But if anyone would like to help out here, it would be greatly appreciated :-) I can show you exactly what's required.. ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Apr 4, 2011, 8:25 pm Last edited Apr 4, 2011, 8:26 pm by *sam*

*Rezeak* The Dark Knights Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Marshals + Storytellers Posts: 2,377 Joined: Aug 8, 2009 Saweeeeeeeeeeeeet Daaaaaawwwgeeey ......................... vet wv deathrceL1 marshal pvp2 zom pvp3 Posted Apr 4, 2011, 8:29 pm

The Paranoid Tourist Precipitous Treachery Darkwind Guru Slavers Faction Group: Members Posts: 1,828 Joined: Jan 12, 2007 *sam* said: 1. This patch finalises the effects on driving of paint That sounds really awkward to me. Is that the effects of paint on driving? heheh ......................... vet gateautumn gwextrav raceL1 wv e2g0,2,0 Posted Apr 4, 2011, 8:34 pm

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,781 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 No, the effects of driving on paint. ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Apr 4, 2011, 8:36 pm

Hogfather Hogs of Destiny Racer Renegade Group: Members Posts: 119 Joined: Mar 8, 2011 Sounds like some good changes. All you Car Cannon snipers will have to learn some real tactics! ......................... vet wv paintball Posted Apr 4, 2011, 8:37 pm Last edited Apr 4, 2011, 8:38 pm by Hogfather

*Rev. V* Cestus Dei Darkwind Guru Civs Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 3,208 Joined: Aug 3, 2010 I'm actually more partial to HCRs anyway... ......................... vet wv zom marshal paintladder cont Posted Apr 4, 2011, 8:44 pm

Juris Hessians Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 1,706 Joined: Sep 16, 2010 *sam* said: 2. We are trialling some changes to the Sniper specialism on Large Guns. I can tell you that the Rules Council discussed this one at great length, and it certainly wasn't a snap decision. Basically, Sniper is now less effective with Large Guns weapons that with regular Gunnery weapons. We will be assessing how this is panning out in a few weeks, and re-tweaking if necessary. Excellent, just in time for Open PvP in in the south...  Kudos to the new Rules Council.  Thanks FF for illustrating the problem with screen shots.  ......................... vet wv pvp1 pvp5 pvp4 race1 zom pvp2 deathrce1 pvp3 combat1 Posted Apr 4, 2011, 8:51 pm

*Rezeak* The Dark Knights Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Marshals + Storytellers Posts: 2,377 Joined: Aug 8, 2009 Hogfather said: Sounds like some good changes.  All you Car Cannon snipers will have to learn some real tactics!  Yeah, we'll have to use HCRs instead ......................... vet wv deathrceL1 marshal pvp2 zom pvp3 Posted Apr 4, 2011, 8:55 pm

FireFly Anarcho-Pumpkin Privateers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 5,468 Joined: Mar 3, 2008 *Rezeak* said: Hogfather said: Sounds like some good changes.  All you Car Cannon snipers will have to learn some real tactics!  Yeah, we'll have to use HCRs instead Least they dont have terrible knockback power or horrendous damage output. Who knows, that almost sounds like balance?  ......................... vet wv zom gateautumn deathrceL1 elmsautumn pvp1 pvp2 sssc raceL1 e2g combatL1 santa1 pvp3 gwextrav ww circuit32,18,0 Posted Apr 4, 2011, 8:59 pm

Stingray191 Bladerunners Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 678 Joined: Dec 9, 2008 This should have popped up like the changes to PvP to give me a chance to change tactics. Not that I'm going to change, but it would have been nice. ......................... vet wv elmsautumn e2g ww Posted Apr 4, 2011, 10:23 pm

Hogfather Hogs of Destiny Racer Renegade Group: Members Posts: 119 Joined: Mar 8, 2011 The only thing I find wrong with this change is people who developed their gunners based the old standards of Sniper find they have wasted their precious specializations. Given the massive amount of effort spend in gaining these points, it would seem that players should be given the option to change out their Sniper spec if they wish. ......................... vet wv paintball Posted Apr 5, 2011, 12:02 am

*jimmylogan* MADHAT Darkwind Guru Civs Faction Group: Marshals + Rule Council Posts: 5,605 Joined: Jun 11, 2008 Hog - this was part of the discussion. No respec right now, but it's not out of the question for later, once we settle on final effects. ......................... vet marshal deathrceL1 wv community combatL1 Posted Apr 5, 2011, 12:04 am

Hogfather Hogs of Destiny Racer Renegade Group: Members Posts: 119 Joined: Mar 8, 2011 What about instead of Sniper being a skill that affects all Gunnery-related skills..now at a reduced rate, if it kept its original bonus, but was specialized on each type of weapon - Cannons, Machines Guns, Rockets, etc. Thus players would sacrifice flexibility for the added accuracy at range. ......................... vet wv paintball Posted Apr 5, 2011, 12:06 am Last edited Apr 5, 2011, 12:06 am by Hogfather

Joel Autobaun Joels Bastards Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Sinbinned Posts: 4,598 Joined: Nov 10, 2008 *sam* said: 2. We are trialling some changes to the Sniper specialism on Large Guns. I can tell you that the Rules Council discussed this one at great length, and it certainly wasn't a snap decision. Basically, Sniper is now less effective with Large Guns weapons that with regular Gunnery weapons. We will be assessing how this is panning out in a few weeks, and re-tweaking if necessary. Uh ya...big difference.  Any chance on a re-spec? Edit:  Ya this is a botch.  ( I will explain in PMs, forums is no fkin use with this, Sam you can PM me or find out the hard way...) ......................... vet northernsummer deathrce1 raceL1 deathrceL1 ww ped1 sssc paintball semiprocombat ped2 e2g gwextrav gwped combat1 paintladder elmsautumn gateautumn wv race1 combatL1 pvp1 pvp5 pvp4 zom pvp3 circuit1 pvp2 circuit2 circuit3 ss2fl67 slay2013 storm2013 geek triangle198,99,31 Posted Apr 5, 2011, 12:32 am Last edited Apr 5, 2011, 12:50 am by Joel Autobaun

d0dger an0maly Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 2,492 Joined: Jan 24, 2010 Just took out two of my BPUs with HCR/CC and RL/CC they didn't seem too bad. I definitely noticed a big difference on my gunner with HW3 and Sniper 3 as opposed to the one with HW1 and Sniper 3... I was still able to hit at 90 meters with the car cannon with no sustained target or fire bonus... S335417 ......................... vet wv combat1 combatL1 paintladder pvp5 sssc deathrceL1 pvp4 zom race1 semiprocombat deathrce1 raceL1 pvp3 pvp2 ww pvp1 paintball santa2 gwped4,16,9 Posted Apr 5, 2011, 1:59 am Last edited Apr 5, 2011, 2:01 am by d0dger

d0dger an0maly Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 2,492 Joined: Jan 24, 2010 And again on the return. S335422 Was even hitting at 90 meters with no HW spec, but that gunner had sniper 4... ......................... vet wv combat1 combatL1 paintladder pvp5 sssc deathrceL1 pvp4 zom race1 semiprocombat deathrce1 raceL1 pvp3 pvp2 ww pvp1 paintball santa2 gwped4,16,9 Posted Apr 5, 2011, 2:23 am Last edited Apr 5, 2011, 2:41 am by d0dger

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,513 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 there goes scrapping pirates at 190 meters Weapon damage decals: Wow! I really didn't think this was possible. Cool stuff. I might be able to help with some bullet holes? do you need different holes for different guns. i.e. mg's(gats, large and small), rifles, rockets, large bore guns etc. ? ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,1 Posted Apr 5, 2011, 2:45 am

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,513 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 having trouble updating this last patch. dowload patch at startup, game boots and says Im version .135 and that I need to restart. I restart and it does the same thing. Closing the restart dialog, I can just keep playing. Read that others have had similar occurances in the past, do I need to delete or edit some file maybe or something? ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,1 Posted Apr 5, 2011, 5:23 am

*Longo* Longos Merry Men Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 6,670 Joined: Dec 15, 2007 Right click icon, run as administrator? ......................... vet combatL1 ped1 paintladder semiprocombat ped2 wv pvp4 pvp1 gwped paintball pvp3 pvp5 slay2013 marshal circuit2 combat1 e2g raceL1 gwextrav gateautumn pvp2 triangle1 Posted Apr 5, 2011, 6:14 am

*Tinker* BibleThumpers Anonymous Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 4,546 Joined: Aug 1, 2008 try updating patch twice in a row? ......................... vet marshal wv pvp3 zom circuit2 pvp1 cont Posted Apr 5, 2011, 7:39 am

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