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NPC 2-stage spawn: in testing

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 This is a new feature I have been discussing with the rules council: NPCs that spawn some of their vehicles part-way through the combat. Initially, this will only ever happen during an assassination combat - so it's entirely your decision whether you want to test it. We'll see how this plays out over the next week or two, and decide how commonplace to make it and/or what changes are needed. ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Mar 6, 2011, 9:08 pm Last edited Mar 6, 2011, 9:28 pm by *sam*

Groove Champion The Groove Champions Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 4,813 Joined: Sep 16, 2008 Wicked cool!!! (despite the casualties and vehicles I may suffer as a result) ......................... vet combatL1 wv cont0,5,0 Posted Mar 6, 2011, 9:19 pm

*Rezeak* The Dark Knights Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Marshals + Storytellers Posts: 2,377 Joined: Aug 8, 2009 Sounds good! Is there any possibility that we'll have the same ability? It would be cool if halfway through a solo scout we could bring in a couple of cars to alter the tide of battle. Would also be super cool in PvP ......................... vet wv deathrceL1 marshal pvp2 zom pvp3 Posted Mar 6, 2011, 9:40 pm

*Tinker* BibleThumpers Anonymous Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 4,546 Joined: Aug 1, 2008 Cool interesting, like the slow cautious approach ......................... vet marshal wv pvp3 zom circuit2 pvp1 cont Posted Mar 6, 2011, 10:15 pm

JS Hitmen Trucking Inc -CI- Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 3,238 Joined: Jan 9, 2010 Is the second additional CR? Or is it a portion of the original CR? ......................... vet wv pvp5 pvp3 pvp4 Posted Mar 6, 2011, 10:43 pm

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 It will usually add up to more than 100%, but the initial spawn does have less than normal ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Mar 6, 2011, 10:53 pm

*Dark Tempest* The Black Legion Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,049 Joined: Jan 27, 2010 Can't wait to try this. ......................... vet wv marshal pvp2 Posted Mar 6, 2011, 11:05 pm

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,907 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 dude.. that is ace.. now just double the number of enemies in every fight.. make every fight an ambush.. and this could become FUN ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted Mar 6, 2011, 11:18 pm

*Longo* Longos Merry Men Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 6,659 Joined: Dec 15, 2007 Sam - Can ya spawn an extra few assassination missions so we can get a good feel for this? ......................... vet combatL1 ped1 paintladder semiprocombat ped2 wv pvp4 pvp1 gwped paintball pvp3 pvp5 slay2013 marshal circuit2 combat1 e2g raceL1 gwextrav gateautumn pvp2 triangle1 Posted Mar 6, 2011, 11:32 pm

*Tango* 2ManyRads CI Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,543 Joined: Mar 21, 2010 Too cool! ......................... marshal vet wv pvp5 pvp4 combat1 pvp3 zom community Posted Mar 6, 2011, 11:46 pm

Skidmark The Vermin Racer Slavers Faction Group: Members Posts: 102 Joined: Feb 22, 2010 I tried this new option out just now. I brought a 148 scout to assassinate a Hammerstein leader in Elmsfield. I rolled 50 miles. I did everything I could to keep the odds managable. Despite that, my 343 CR squad initially faced 423 CR worth of enemy vehicles. That's 23.3 % more than me in the first wave. After 40 turns another car showed up bringing the sum total of enemy CR to 551, 60.6 % more than me. This was an Elmsfield scout. Virtual Noobville. I suspect I'd be completely overwhelmed in towns further south. As it stood I'd likely have been killed if the AI had reacted a tad smarter. Keep in mind, I don't have car cannons, I don't drive buzzers, I don't lazily drive away and expect the enemy to follow into my crosshairs. That's not my style. Perhaps if it were, adding more enemy would enhance my experience or something. Ramp up my loot quotient. But I don't have this kind of equipment. For some odd reason, some communists who will remain nameless tend to always get unleashed on camps that might possibly be able to generate these nice tidbits for me. Now the PVE side is going to get ratcheted up to the point of suicide? Well, I hope the buzzer drivers appreciate the sacrifice little guys like me get to make to ensure you have your fun. ... And I still didn't kill the leader. I get to go out again. ......................... vet wv pvp5 pvp4 Posted Mar 7, 2011, 2:42 am

thepez Midville MONDOs Autodueller Civs Faction Group: Members Posts: 325 Joined: Jan 23, 2010 I know its only supposed to be assassination but I just took out a 290 CR scout squad (no assassination) with a 219 scout from Somerset and got 476 CR which seemed unusual. ......................... vet wv Posted Mar 7, 2011, 5:43 am

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,513 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 Quote: Can ya spawn an extra few assassination missions so we can get a good feel for this?   ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,1 Posted Mar 7, 2011, 6:56 am

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 Skidmark said: I tried this new option out just now.  I brought a 148 scout to assassinate a Hammerstein leader in Elmsfield.  I rolled 50 miles.  I did everything I could to keep the odds managable. Despite that, my 343 CR squad initially faced 423 CR worth of enemy vehicles.  That's 23.3 % more than me in the first wave.  After 40 turns another car showed up bringing the sum total of enemy CR to 551, 60.6 % more than me. This was an Elmsfield scout.  Virtual Noobville.  I suspect I'd be completely overwhelmed in towns further south.  As it stood I'd likely have been killed if the AI had reacted a tad smarter. Keep in mind, I don't have car cannons, I don't drive buzzers, I don't lazily drive away and expect the enemy to follow into my crosshairs.  That's not my style.  Perhaps if it were, adding more enemy would enhance my experience or something.  Ramp up my loot quotient. But I don't have this kind of equipment.  For some odd reason, some communists who will remain nameless tend to always get unleashed on camps that might possibly be able to generate these nice tidbits for me. Now the PVE side is going to get ratcheted up to the point of suicide?  Well, I hope the buzzer drivers appreciate the sacrifice little guys like me get to make to ensure you have your fun. ... And I still didn't kill the leader.  I get to go out again. How many vehicles were in your squad? We have no intention of crushing newer players with this, it's likely it will indeed only be commonplace further south. edit: Also.. assassinations are only normally available on higher fame gangs, so this skewed things also. I say 'normaly', because I temporarily  changed this rule for the extra assassination missions I just created, in order to get some in every town. ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Mar 7, 2011, 8:53 am Last edited Mar 7, 2011, 9:20 am by *sam*

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 thepez said: I know its only supposed to be assassination but I just took out a 290 CR scout squad (no assassination) with a 219 scout from Somerset and got 476 CR which seemed unusual. Other code was unchanged ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Mar 7, 2011, 8:53 am

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 I just made a bunch of extra assassination missions ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Mar 7, 2011, 9:13 am

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,513 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,1 Posted Mar 7, 2011, 10:01 am

Skidmark The Vermin Racer Slavers Faction Group: Members Posts: 102 Joined: Feb 22, 2010 Quote: How many vehicles were in your squad? We have no intention of crushing newer players with this, it's likely it will indeed only be commonplace further south. edit: Also.. assassinations are only normally available on higher fame gangs, so this skewed things also. I say 'normaly', because I temporarily  changed this rule for the extra assassination missions I just created, in order to get some in every town. I had two pickups and a phoenix.  119 CR + 119 CR + 105 CR. It's definitely much more of a challenge and I can see a lot of folks benefitting from the change further south.  Folks that run out of targets before they run out of ammo and feel sad.  Personnally, I tend to run out of armor before I run out of targets and shed scat.  I'm glad to hear that the intent is to establish these two-stagers further south. ......................... vet wv pvp5 pvp4 Posted Mar 7, 2011, 4:54 pm

Parapsycho DW eSports Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Subscribers Posts: 644 Joined: May 23, 2006 Since people are/were complaining about traders being too easy, maybe you could add 2-stage spawns to trader scouts as well. ......................... vet wv paintladder Posted Mar 7, 2011, 8:42 pm

*Grograt* Grograts Gonads Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 8,377 Joined: Oct 5, 2008 *Parapsycho* said: Since people are/were complaining about traders being too easy, maybe you could add 2-stage spawns to trader scouts as well. +1 ......................... vet marshal wv community Posted Mar 7, 2011, 9:03 pm

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