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Escaping camp attacks

Fifth Fifth Legion Autodueller Renegade Group: Members Posts: 480 Joined: Jan 3, 2010 How much damage will a FT with a pair of Tank Guns do? Not 'not very much,' I bet. ......................... vet wv Posted Jan 11, 2011, 8:28 pm

*Marc5iver* 5ive Crew Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 1,354 Joined: Oct 10, 2008 Fifth said: How much damage will a FT with a pair of Tank Guns do? Not 'not very much,' I bet. I might not mind if the pirates brought a FT to attack me. Probably the only way I have to get a FT I guess Run and Gun is out of the question and don't let any pirates escape. ......................... vet wv gwextrav e2g marshal pvp4 pvp3 pvp2 Posted Jan 11, 2011, 8:31 pm Last edited Jan 11, 2011, 8:32 pm by *Marc5iver*

Serephe Collision Force Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 3,496 Joined: Dec 9, 2007 *Marc5iver* said: What if you are playing at Once Upon a Town and a vehicle gets hung up on a pole or fence? You have to slow down or come to a complete stop due to their inability to drive? I don't think one car is going to be able to make an attack on the camp. One car can do a quick raid while your defenders are dealing with the cars that didn't get hung up on the fences, though!  ......................... vet wv paintladder ww0,3,0 Posted Jan 11, 2011, 8:31 pm Last edited Jan 11, 2011, 8:34 pm by *Marc5iver*

Fifth Fifth Legion Autodueller Renegade Group: Members Posts: 480 Joined: Jan 3, 2010 Longo said: With a run and gun playstyle, if one of your opponents cant "keep up" and exceeds 550 meters, then "bam" camp damage? Also, one thing fast muscle/racer cars are very very good at: keeping enemies who fall behind from escaping. Usually their CR is low enough that they don't get noticed by the AI, and they can hover around 350 from each straggler. One vehicle can even cover multiple stragglers. Just like a trader hunt. ......................... vet wv Posted Jan 11, 2011, 8:33 pm

*Marc5iver* 5ive Crew Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 1,354 Joined: Oct 10, 2008 Serephe said: *Marc5iver* said: What if you are playing at Once Upon a Town and a vehicle gets hung up on a pole or fence? You have to slow down or come to a complete stop due to their inability to drive? I don't think one car is going to be able to make an attack on the camp. One car can do a quick raid while your defenders are dealing with the cars that didn't get hung up on the fences, though!  So the gangers who are still in camp would just run and hide if they saw one symphony come running up to the gates? I know this is a game, but that isn't very realistic. ......................... vet wv gwextrav e2g marshal pvp4 pvp3 pvp2 Posted Jan 11, 2011, 8:34 pm

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 *Marc5iver* said: So the gangers who are still in camp would just run and hide if they saw one symphony come running up to the gates? I know this is a game, but that isn't very realistic. I think the point about these camp attack combats is that they're not actually done on a proper camp map, or with realistically sized forces. This means they're a somewhat abstract representation of the actual combat. ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Jan 11, 2011, 9:04 pm Last edited Jan 11, 2011, 9:08 pm by *sam*

*Marc5iver* 5ive Crew Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 1,354 Joined: Oct 10, 2008 *sam* said: *Marc5iver* said: So the gangers who are still in camp would just run and hide if they saw one symphony come running up to the gates? I know this is a game, but that isn't very realistic. I think the point about these camp attack combats is that they're not actually done on a proper camp map, or with realistically sized forces. This means they're a somewhat abstract representation of the actual combat. OK, I can accept that rationale. 55555 ......................... vet wv gwextrav e2g marshal pvp4 pvp3 pvp2 Posted Jan 11, 2011, 9:32 pm

Serephe Collision Force Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 3,496 Joined: Dec 9, 2007 Aye, sorry I wasn't clearer 5. I always thought of it the way Sam just explained. ......................... vet wv paintladder ww0,3,0 Posted Jan 11, 2011, 9:47 pm

*Tinker* BibleThumpers Anonymous Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 4,546 Joined: Aug 1, 2008 Why can't a really good negotiator get away with trucing no mater what faction they are? Like in the old days? ......................... vet marshal wv pvp3 zom circuit2 pvp1 cont Posted Jan 11, 2011, 10:50 pm

Philyn Holy Mutant Death Squad Autodueller Badlands Truckstop Faction Group: Members Posts: 303 Joined: Nov 1, 2008 I have fought all my camp attacks and will continue to do so I wish had had more than 1 hours notice like I had yesterday. Granted it may have been posted on Sunday but I had things to do and missed it. Sure I got an e-mail but on Saturday or Sunday but its the weekend. So is a little more notice do-able or it that the inherent risk? ......................... vet gwped wv northernsummer Posted Jan 12, 2011, 12:39 am

*Burden* The Speedrunners Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 1,013 Joined: Oct 4, 2009 What if a player attacks a camp, and brings nothing but racecars so that they could escape to 550 easily? ......................... wv vet zom marshal pvp2 paintladder Posted Jan 12, 2011, 2:27 am

Fifth Fifth Legion Autodueller Renegade Group: Members Posts: 480 Joined: Jan 3, 2010 What about fixed camp defenses and actually playing out the camp attack on a designated "Camp map?" A TG-equipped bunker would make short work of a muscle, but would be in danger from a line of Buzzers, and so on. Edit: *Burden* said: What if a player attacks a camp, and brings nothing but racecars so that they could escape to 550 easily? It's what I'd do. Organize a cavalry raid of Bullets and Vampires to make a fast slashing attack. Wouldn't do a LOT of damage, but would irritate them and stir up the hive. All kinds of RP elements could be mixed in there - pulling forces off another camp, etc. ......................... vet wv Posted Jan 12, 2011, 3:05 am Last edited Jan 12, 2011, 3:11 am by Fifth

*Marc5iver* 5ive Crew Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 1,354 Joined: Oct 10, 2008 I don't have the knowhow or the skill to make maps but maybe it would be worth getting a few camp gates maps made. They would have to be generic and not set up like the actual camp, as I believe that would require a separate map for each camp as well as needing changes if camp buildings are changed. Could probably get away with 2 or 3 for small, medium and large camps? ......................... vet wv gwextrav e2g marshal pvp4 pvp3 pvp2 Posted Jan 12, 2011, 6:42 am

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 I actually have partially-written code for spawning proper camp maps based on the specific camp with correct buildings etc. I kind-of abandoned it at the time so it only applies to the earliest camps made, right now. I'll re-assess what it might involve to complete.. ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Jan 12, 2011, 8:32 am

*Ayjona* Edgerunners Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 515 Joined: Dec 6, 2006 *sam* said: I actually have partially-written code for spawning proper camp maps based on the specific camp with correct buildings etc. I kind-of abandoned it at the time so it only applies to the earliest camps made, right now. I'll re-assess what it might involve to complete.. This would probably add a lot of relevance to camp setup and, at least slightly, to the 'emotional' investments into particular camps. I'm guessing this would be a very appreciated and popular function. I remember hoping for it back when camps were first announced. Here's to the hope it won't cost ya an arm and a leg. ......................... vet marshal wv Posted Jan 12, 2011, 11:30 pm

Speed_Melon Produce_Vendors Darkwind Guru Merchants Faction Group: Members Posts: 558 Joined: Dec 18, 2007 +1 Philyn said: I have fought all my camp attacks and will continue to do so I wish had had more than 1 hours notice like I had yesterday. Granted it may have been posted on Sunday but I had things to do and missed it. Sure I got an e-mail but on Saturday or Sunday but its the weekend. So is a little more notice do-able or it that the inherent risk? ......................... vet wv0,3,0 Posted Jan 13, 2011, 12:44 am

*Dark Tempest* The Black Legion Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,049 Joined: Jan 27, 2010 +1 or is that +2? ......................... vet wv marshal pvp2 Posted Jan 13, 2011, 12:45 am

*jimmylogan* MADHAT Darkwind Guru Civs Faction Group: Marshals + Rule Council Posts: 5,587 Joined: Jun 11, 2008 Speed_Melon said: +1 Philyn said: I have fought all my camp attacks and will continue to do so I wish had had more than 1 hours notice like I had yesterday. Granted it may have been posted on Sunday but I had things to do and missed it. Sure I got an e-mail but on Saturday or Sunday but its the weekend. So is a little more notice do-able or it that the inherent risk? You really only get 1 hour's notice? I always get more... You sure you're not confusing the server date? ......................... vet marshal deathrceL1 wv community combatL1 Posted Jan 13, 2011, 1:01 am

*Dark Tempest* The Black Legion Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,049 Joined: Jan 27, 2010 He was away from DW for 23 hours, or more, and when he got back on the attack had been scheduled. With only a day warning it's not hard to only have an hour to prepare. ......................... vet wv marshal pvp2 Posted Jan 13, 2011, 1:10 am Last edited Jan 13, 2011, 1:12 am by *Dark Tempest*

*jimmylogan* MADHAT Darkwind Guru Civs Faction Group: Marshals + Rule Council Posts: 5,587 Joined: Jun 11, 2008 Ah - okay... I don't disagree that that's unfortunate, but if they are too far out does it give too much time to move cars and gangers to camp and prepare? ......................... vet marshal deathrceL1 wv community combatL1 Posted Jan 13, 2011, 1:17 am

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