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Just hit Renowned for the first time, Is there an advantage?

*Tango* 2ManyRads CI Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,543 Joined: Mar 21, 2010 Is a vehicle being Renowned just like a badge of honor or experience, or does it also do anything beneficial for the gangers riding in it? The wiki is pretty vague. Thanks! ......................... marshal vet wv pvp5 pvp4 combat1 pvp3 zom community Posted Aug 14, 2010, 8:16 pm

d0dger an0maly Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 2,492 Joined: Jan 24, 2010 pretty sure there's a courage bonus for crew in the vehicle, but I think that's it. ......................... vet wv combat1 combatL1 paintladder pvp5 sssc deathrceL1 pvp4 zom race1 semiprocombat deathrce1 raceL1 pvp3 pvp2 ww pvp1 paintball santa2 gwped4,16,10 Posted Aug 14, 2010, 8:19 pm

Joel Autobaun Joels Bastards Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Sinbinned Posts: 4,598 Joined: Nov 10, 2008 Join the crusade to get vehicle specs-specialslot-whatever modifications put in for famous vehicles! ......................... vet northernsummer deathrce1 raceL1 deathrceL1 ww ped1 sssc paintball semiprocombat ped2 e2g gwextrav gwped combat1 paintladder elmsautumn gateautumn wv race1 combatL1 pvp1 pvp5 pvp4 zom pvp3 circuit1 pvp2 circuit2 circuit3 ss2fl67 slay2013 storm2013 geek triangle198,96,31 Posted Aug 16, 2010, 11:01 pm

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,513 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 Congrats Tango! ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,1 Posted Aug 17, 2010, 1:38 am

Lord Foul .-^-HellRazors-^. Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Rules Council Posts: 3,543 Joined: Jan 12, 2008 d0dger said: pretty sure there's a courage bonus for crew in the vehicle, but I think that's it. Correct. It's a bonus and a curse at the same time. The courage bonus also keeps your characters from gaining courage as well, since it takes them a lot longer to get stressed. ......................... vet race1 deathrce1 wv zom circuit1 pvp1 northernsummer community circuit3 paintball55,206,126 Posted Aug 17, 2010, 1:58 am

*Tango* 2ManyRads CI Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,543 Joined: Mar 21, 2010 Bastiel said: Congrats Tango! Thank you! ......................... marshal vet wv pvp5 pvp4 combat1 pvp3 zom community Posted Aug 17, 2010, 2:18 am

kometen Road Lords Racer Privateers Faction Group: Members Posts: 190 Joined: Feb 2, 2008 Quote: The courage bonus also keeps your characters from gaining courage as well, since it takes them a lot longer to get stressed. Interesting point. Never really considered that. Thank you Lord Foul. ......................... vet wv deathrce10,4,1 Posted Aug 17, 2010, 2:35 am

Karz Master Alpha Junkers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Storytellers + IP Posts: 2,375 Joined: Nov 13, 2006 d0dger said: pretty sure there's a courage bonus for crew in the vehicle, but I think that's it. Was this added in only recently? The last time I saw someone ask this question, the consensus was that it was only for cosmetic purposes. ......................... vet wv zom Posted Aug 17, 2010, 3:26 am

Lord Foul .-^-HellRazors-^. Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Rules Council Posts: 3,543 Joined: Jan 12, 2008 Karz Master said: d0dger said: pretty sure there's a courage bonus for crew in the vehicle, but I think that's it. Was this added in only recently? The last time I saw someone ask this question, the consensus was that it was only for cosmetic purposes. Always been there as far I know. Each fame level gives a little more of a courage bonus. Normally in a regular car just sitting there will build up stress, but in a legendary car you could sit there doing nothing and go a very very long time without breaking a sweat. Even if an enemy is close by but not firing my guys stay cool but again they don't gain any courage from the battle. ......................... vet race1 deathrce1 wv zom circuit1 pvp1 northernsummer community circuit3 paintball55,206,126 Posted Aug 17, 2010, 6:32 am Last edited Aug 17, 2010, 6:34 am by Lord Foul

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,907 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 i still think the effect should be to demoralise the enemy... not raise your courage. its renowned because its killed a lot of bad guys... so they should be scared of it... if you are taking hits you are hardly going to be thinking.... 'don't wory chaps... those rockets wont hurt us... we are famous!" ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted Aug 17, 2010, 9:25 am

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,513 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 Quote: It's a bonus and a curse at the same time. The courage bonus also keeps your characters from gaining courage as well, since it takes them a lot longer to get stressed. Ah-ha! I knew it!  My 'White Heat' crew don't gain courage unless I race in against the odds and risk certain death and even then, I get like a point. 460+ ldr still has only 77 courage and 61 for his gunner. Combat Psych and courage under fire also present, I think Ive gained 10 courage for these guys since WH went renowned despite risking them many times in the front line while very close to breach. My buzzer crews gain courage much faster, and don't take much greater risks, just the obvious that its possible to be shot more in a buzzer. My voyager courier drivers gain courage faster than my White Heat crew and all they do is run away. So in that sense, definitely a curse, and of course they seem to attract a lot more attention at the same time. ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,1 Posted Aug 17, 2010, 10:40 am Last edited Aug 17, 2010, 10:42 am by Bastiel

Lord Foul .-^-HellRazors-^. Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Rules Council Posts: 3,543 Joined: Jan 12, 2008 goat starer said: i still think the effect should be to demoralise the enemy... not raise your courage. its renowned because its killed a lot of bad guys... so they should be scared of it... if you are taking hits you are hardly going to be thinking.... 'don't wory chaps... those rockets wont hurt us... we are famous!" We don't agree often Goat, but on this you're spot on.  ......................... vet race1 deathrce1 wv zom circuit1 pvp1 northernsummer community circuit3 paintball55,206,126 Posted Aug 18, 2010, 12:40 am

JS Hitmen Trucking Inc -CI- Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 3,238 Joined: Jan 9, 2010 Another interesting side note. If you kick the crap out of legions of enemies, and never really get yellow or red, you don't gain any courage. I've played a bunch in the last 7 months, and my best courage is only 130ish, and that's from a guy who runs around in a paint car. My gunners in the big vehicles are all in the sub 100s save a few of my oldest who are just over 100. My leader is a 659 leadership, been in countless battles and is only an 86 courage. ......................... vet wv pvp5 pvp3 pvp4 Posted Aug 18, 2010, 1:17 am

Deathangels Shadow deathys Strikers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Contributors Posts: 658 Joined: Jul 24, 2007 It seems like you should gain courage from kicking ass completely, too... I mean, your gang are going to be rarin' to go if they're confident their leader is going to get them out in one piece. ......................... vet wv Posted Aug 18, 2010, 1:46 am

*Dark Tempest* The Black Legion Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,049 Joined: Jan 27, 2010 I disagree Deathangels. If you were on a crew that consistently kicked ass from 150m and never took a hit, then when a scout that goes south on you, were everyone runs low or out of ammo, your vehicles and the enemy's are all tangled up, and your vehicle is being rocked by 3 rockets a second, you are going to freak out FAST. When your not used to getting your ass handed to you it hurts more. Gangers that survive every scout by the narrowest of margins are used to it, and getting tossed around won't bother them as much, because they have faith that their skills and the skills of the guys covering them will win the day. ......................... vet wv marshal pvp2 Posted Aug 18, 2010, 1:51 am Last edited Aug 18, 2010, 1:51 am by *Dark Tempest*

upgrayedd -=[Death Dealers]=- Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 513 Joined: Feb 28, 2010 kometen said: Quote: The courage bonus also keeps your characters from gaining courage as well, since it takes them a lot longer to get stressed. Interesting point. Never really considered that. Thank you Lord Foul. Unless you take on a higher famed gang. My recently renowned Vulture's crew still easily went yellow up against FLMH and each picked up a point of courage afterward. ......................... vet wv gwped Posted Aug 18, 2010, 5:12 am

Deathangels Shadow deathys Strikers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Contributors Posts: 658 Joined: Jul 24, 2007 *Dark Tempest* said: When your not used to getting your ass handed to you it hurts more.  <snipped most of it, just wanted to leave in a reference point> Maybe not as much courage, but having a leader whose tactics tend to keep everyone alive and bring them home should inspire courage in the troops.  Courage is not a single axis emotion, inspiration can come from multiple places. ......................... vet wv Posted Aug 18, 2010, 5:22 am

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,513 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 I agree with both sides there. Successful combat will tend to give courage, but is it dutch courage, like being drunk? I agree with Famous vehicles giving a courage boost too, no they won't think that they are safe getting hit by rockets because its renowned, but more because the car has saved them many times before. This may be a false belief and have no real practical use, but i relate it to having your favourite calculator walking into an exam, or your trusty worn baseball glove. Will the car save you when it all goes south, no, but the belief of the occupants will. ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,1 Posted Aug 18, 2010, 5:41 am

*Rev. V* Cestus Dei Darkwind Guru Civs Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 3,208 Joined: Aug 4, 2010 I like the idea of a famous vehicle having a negative effect on the enemies morale. And there's plenty of real world examples to back that up, so I can't say that the concept is unrealistic. Chennault's P-40's, and Boyingtons Corsairs had that effect on the Japanese. The Yamato and the Bismark caused a fair amount of consternation. If you were an allied pilot and saw a red bi or triplane coming towards you in the sky over France in 1917, I would bet money that your sphincter quickly tightened.... ......................... vet wv zom marshal paintladder cont Posted Aug 19, 2010, 5:50 pm

*Tinker* BibleThumpers Anonymous Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 4,546 Joined: Aug 1, 2008 goat starer said: i still think the effect should be to demoralise the enemy... not raise your courage. its renowned because its killed a lot of bad guys... so they should be scared of it... if you are taking hits you are hardly going to be thinking.... 'don't wory chaps... those rockets wont hurt us... we are famous!" lol so true ......................... vet marshal wv pvp3 zom circuit2 pvp1 cont Posted Aug 21, 2010, 7:26 pm

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