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Aye, true, but this isn't hard to do, I can just do it faster than most people would be able to...
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Posted Jun 17, 2010, 5:02 pm
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Sure, but I don't think most players have the equipment and gangers necessary to get hero points in most/all towns - and in sufficient quantity to be admired everywhere by everyone.
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Posted Jun 17, 2010, 5:09 pm
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Actually groove, all you need to do this is Hero points in any merchant town (I prefeer GW), hero points in Firelight (Doable from SS, kill Bounty hunters), and there you've got most gangs in your whim.

The Mutants and slavers were my buds since before this patch, but some shanty HP's could easily fix that to, and some BL HP's.

But at the end of the day, there's not a whole lot of people left for me to fight hunt anymore eh? :rolleyes:
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Posted Jun 17, 2010, 5:13 pm
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Let me know if this is making it too easy to get liked by everyone (and therefore travel gets too easy) - the amount that your rep gets boosted may need tweaking
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Posted Jun 17, 2010, 5:25 pm
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*sam* said:
Let me know if this is making it too easy to get liked by everyone (and therefore travel gets too easy) - the amount that your rep gets boosted may need tweaking


it's hard to know unless you track your hero points on a spreadsheet lol

edit : makes being liked in FL very easy since you get fame from killing merchants while getting a hero point for it at the same time = double whammy thank you sir come again *hic!*

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http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/5774/picture7eb.png
just from hitting merchant bounty hunters in ss
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Posted Jun 17, 2010, 6:49 pm Last edited Jun 17, 2010, 7:31 pm by *Tinker*
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Maybe it would be best if the hero point reputation boosts had a negative effect on your reputation with the enemies of your chosen faction?
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Posted Jun 17, 2010, 9:29 pm
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Groove Champion said:
Maybe it would be best if the hero point reputation boosts had a negative effect on your reputation with the enemies of your chosen faction?


If the effects cascaded, yep.. was thinking that myself.
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Posted Jun 18, 2010, 8:42 am
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if it cascaded there would be no point anymore?, it's just the FL bit that is dodgy...

Also noticed merchant fame not going down much from hitting bountie hunters, is it because they are not traders? or because i'm mutant aligned?
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Posted Jun 18, 2010, 1:40 pm
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Agree with tinker, it wouldn't be to much use if it cascaded...
Besides, how does the civs hear about you bragin' of your exploits in firelight? ;)
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Posted Jun 18, 2010, 2:22 pm
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FireFly said:
Agree with tinker, it wouldn't be to much use if it cascaded...
Besides, how does the civs hear about you bragin' of your exploits in firelight?  ;)


It would still give you a way to manage your rep's more easily.
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Posted Jun 18, 2010, 2:24 pm Last edited Jun 18, 2010, 2:24 pm by *sam*
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Yeah, that may be, with how it stands, I can travel anywhere below gateway, without ever getting attacked, and if I ever do, I can truce it, the only gangs that would attack me would be the BL truckstop ones and the evan reds, neither are active outside BL.

But truth to be told, I did that even before this patch, its just quicker to do it now.
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Posted Jun 18, 2010, 2:27 pm Last edited Jun 18, 2010, 2:27 pm by FireFly
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No offense, FF, but I think we need to take you out of this equation...

We need feedback from players who aren't in a situation where they can do this whether the hero point change is patched in or not.

(I gave my two cents about it, I'd love to hear from others)
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Posted Jun 18, 2010, 2:41 pm Last edited Jun 18, 2010, 2:41 pm by Groove Champion
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I'd like to hear from others to... but nobody's talking :thinking:
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Posted Jun 18, 2010, 2:42 pm
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I tried to use hero points in GW to improve my standing with merchants, but it didn't do anything instantaneously...

right now I'm neutral with them, from unappreciated, but I also just completed like 10 missions on their behalf...and it was thursday.

So the three bounties in GW didn't seem to do much for me, but I might have been on the far side of "unappreciated" and needed more to get me in their good graces.
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Again, I used all my stockpiled hero points everywhere to buy in with the BL faction and my rep didn't budge.
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Posted Jun 18, 2010, 10:26 pm
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Must have budged by not enough to change the descriptive text, phax.
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Posted Jun 18, 2010, 11:15 pm Last edited Jun 18, 2010, 11:16 pm by *sam*
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I thought I had a lot of GW points. Used em up. Nothing visible happened.

Though I earned a few weeks ago, so
they may just have decayed
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Posted Jun 21, 2010, 1:07 am
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been no friends of merchants, but somehow my rep stayed neutral even after lot's of scouts against merchant bounty hunters in ss, today get 2 kills on a bountied reds gang in GW and after i trade them up for a favour my rep goes up to appreciated with the gullible merchants

oh i did complete some cargo missions, does that boost my merchant rep? i got a weird feeling it does
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Posted Jun 21, 2010, 1:11 am Last edited Jun 21, 2010, 1:13 am by *Tinker*
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I always thought it did. Pretty sure it affected Fame and rep before the system was broken down into factions.

Quite often wondered what the use of the lower paying missions was. Spices, medicines and narcotics. I believe narcotics attracted more heat, not sure about the others. Notice board missions sure seem to swing the fame and rep around.

I haven't tried the HP system yet as suddenly a few changes in my scout choices has given me the desired results to my fame and rep. I'm thinking it might help on those lazy weeks though, when I'm not playing too much.

as I mentioned in the Factions Rep post, is there anywhere we can see the pros and cons of joining certain factions. Be nice if this was somehow hidden until we are aligned with a faction so people can't grind to get benefits alone.
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Posted Jun 23, 2010, 5:01 am Last edited Jun 23, 2010, 5:03 am by Bastiel
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*sam* said:
Must have budged by not enough to change the descriptive text, phax.


you do have to refresh the page to see the effect after you have used the hero points or it just shows the same.
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