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PvP League scoring, revisions needed

*Marc5iver* 5ive Crew Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 1,354 Joined: Oct 10, 2008 I don't want to sound like a whiner, but there needs to be more of a penalty for not showing up for a scout then there is currently or an incentive if you show and lose; maybe 1 point? I just lost to DB BFF and had a demo of 400, but Madhat Maniacs (sorry for calling you out) didn’t show up for combat against Fox Run and only lost 50 demo points. I realize the demo points are only the tiebreaker, but they can possibly matter. Not showing up should cause you to lose Max CR limit + an extra amount (50,100, ?) so that in case of a tie, not showing up and risking your cars and crew is more of a penalty then doing the combat and losing. ......................... vet wv gwextrav e2g marshal pvp4 pvp3 pvp2 Posted May 15, 2010, 12:49 am

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 I can see your point marc.. any opinions from anyone else? Seems to be a lot of no-shows at the squad leagues so far this week... ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted May 15, 2010, 11:05 am

*Ninesticks* The Wombles Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals + Rule Council Posts: 3,371 Joined: Apr 11, 2008 Seems fair to me. ......................... vet wv marshal pvp4 community pvp20,1,0 Posted May 15, 2010, 11:34 am

*Grograt* Grograts Gonads Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 8,377 Joined: Oct 5, 2008 I am in Madhat Maniacs, i have not heard from jimmy all week, or seen him on line, he hadnt set a squad i am afraid, apologies ......................... vet marshal wv community Posted May 15, 2010, 11:41 am Last edited May 15, 2010, 11:42 am by *Grograt*

*Rezeak* The Dark Knights Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Marshals + Storytellers Posts: 2,377 Joined: Aug 8, 2009 *sam* said: I can see your point marc.. any opinions from anyone else? Seems to be a lot of no-shows at the squad leagues so far this week... Our team leader for division 3 (flaming savage) hasn't really been around lately, and hasn't set a squad or time for our fight. Is there any way to make it that the members of the team can change the time and set the squad too? It might help with the no shows. ......................... vet wv deathrceL1 marshal pvp2 zom pvp3 Posted May 15, 2010, 12:24 pm

*Grograt* Grograts Gonads Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 8,377 Joined: Oct 5, 2008 That would be a great idea ......................... vet marshal wv community Posted May 15, 2010, 12:29 pm

*Dark Tempest* The Black Legion Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,049 Joined: Jan 27, 2010 Before I don't show for my event, I want to let everyone know that my subscription has ran out and I'm waiting on PayPal to accept my money so that I can resub. In the meantime, that means no Darkwind for me, and especially no using my own cars. I've PM'ed the team I will be competing against so that they know, and once I am resubbed I don't plan on missing any more events. ......................... vet wv marshal pvp2 Posted May 15, 2010, 1:09 pm

*jimmylogan* MADHAT Darkwind Guru Civs Faction Group: Marshals + Rule Council Posts: 5,587 Joined: Jun 11, 2008 Off topic maybe, but thought I'd post here - been an odd week for me - lots of meetings and only some solo play here and there. Nowhere near the amount of camp scouts I normally do. Sorry. As for the points, I don't really have an opinion either way. Haven't dwelled on it long enough to form one. ......................... vet marshal deathrceL1 wv community combatL1 Posted May 15, 2010, 1:41 pm

Djihani Rollovers Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 899 Joined: Jun 26, 2009 Yeah New linux upgrade killed my DW.. cant play until I figure it out. Havent played in the league enuff to really have an opinion but I guess i'm all for punishing no-show. ......................... vet wv zom gateautumn raceL1 deathrceL10,4,0 Posted May 15, 2010, 2:44 pm

*Marc5iver* 5ive Crew Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 1,354 Joined: Oct 10, 2008 It isn't that I want to punish no shows as much as I don’t want to punish showing up and losing. That is why 1 point for losing may be a good compromise. Might be good to allow teams to be able to schedule their event for anytime not just up to 10 days early. If two teams are scheduled for combat in the last week of the league, they can do it as the first combat for either of them. ......................... vet wv gwextrav e2g marshal pvp4 pvp3 pvp2 Posted May 15, 2010, 6:29 pm Last edited May 15, 2010, 6:32 pm by *Marc5iver*

*Dark Tempest* The Black Legion Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,049 Joined: Jan 27, 2010 I like 1 point for losing. ......................... vet wv marshal pvp2 Posted May 15, 2010, 6:30 pm

FireFly Anarcho-Pumpkin Privateers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 5,468 Joined: Mar 3, 2008 3 points for winning 1 for losing 0 for not participating? ......................... vet wv zom gateautumn deathrceL1 elmsautumn pvp1 pvp2 sssc raceL1 e2g combatL1 santa1 pvp3 gwextrav ww circuit32,18,0 Posted May 15, 2010, 8:18 pm

simonmaxhill Drive Backwards BFFs Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Storytellers Posts: 1,503 Joined: Mar 10, 2008 I like FFs point proposal. I think the only change oughta be that a nonshow or forfeit should result in a 110% CR loss record, so that a player that loses every single match would still come out ahead of a player that noshows every single match. ......................... vet wv Posted May 16, 2010, 2:08 am

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 The effect of 110% CR loss for a noshow would effectively be the same as what FF is suggesting, isn't it? FF- you didn't mention draws here. I assume 2 points, but that makes it 2/3 of a win rather than the current 1/2 of a win.. quite different.. I assume you mean if both sides are no-shows they both get zero though rather than both score a 'draw' ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted May 16, 2010, 4:06 pm

FireFly Anarcho-Pumpkin Privateers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 5,468 Joined: Mar 3, 2008 Well, if neither side shows up, neither side should get any points. Now, as for match draws, I just don't see that happening ......................... vet wv zom gateautumn deathrceL1 elmsautumn pvp1 pvp2 sssc raceL1 e2g combatL1 santa1 pvp3 gwextrav ww circuit32,18,0 Posted May 16, 2010, 4:09 pm

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 It is possible though. How about a truce? or an event where no-one demo's and all cars from one side escape? ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted May 16, 2010, 4:11 pm

*Marc5iver* 5ive Crew Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 1,354 Joined: Oct 10, 2008 If all cars from one side escape, then that team would lose. Truces shouldn't be allowed. I like FF's idea of 3 points for a win, but not if that win is because someone didn't show up. A win due to no show should only be 2 points. ......................... vet wv gwextrav e2g marshal pvp4 pvp3 pvp2 Posted May 16, 2010, 6:27 pm Last edited May 16, 2010, 6:52 pm by *Marc5iver*

simonmaxhill Drive Backwards BFFs Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Storytellers Posts: 1,503 Joined: Mar 10, 2008 Well, given that the PVP events have a time limit, draws are totally possible, though unlikely. Why not have draws be considered a fighting loss for both sides? That way people will be forced to fight more aggressively and you eliminate the possibility that two players will make a gentleman's agreement to run out the clock. ......................... vet wv Posted May 16, 2010, 9:35 pm

Joel Autobaun Joels Bastards Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Sinbinned Posts: 4,598 Joined: Nov 10, 2008 that's awesome - might get rid of laser/mortar BS ......................... vet northernsummer deathrce1 raceL1 deathrceL1 ww ped1 sssc paintball semiprocombat ped2 e2g gwextrav gwped combat1 paintladder elmsautumn gateautumn wv race1 combatL1 pvp1 pvp5 pvp4 zom pvp3 circuit1 pvp2 circuit2 circuit3 ss2fl67 slay2013 storm2013 geek triangle198,96,31 Posted May 16, 2010, 11:51 pm

*Tinker* BibleThumpers Anonymous Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 4,546 Joined: Aug 1, 2008 What's up for the scoring can someone please tell me? I forgot to assign a squad and i got 0 points and a -50 demo score, then won one event against the npcs for a total of 2 points Now looking at div 3 I see Nine missed an event too, and won one event and got no demoes and got 4 points total ......................... vet marshal wv pvp3 zom circuit2 pvp1 cont Posted May 18, 2010, 9:34 am

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