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FireFly Anarcho-Pumpkin Privateers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 5,468 Joined: Mar 3, 2008 Heh Sam, I remember how I originally questioned you about letting people join div 1 in the lobby and you explained all this Maybe some sort of dynamic Challenge CR/skill would be better, but that would just over complicate things really... ......................... vet wv zom gateautumn deathrceL1 elmsautumn pvp1 pvp2 sssc raceL1 e2g combatL1 santa1 pvp3 gwextrav ww circuit32,18,0 Posted Feb 22, 2010, 1:47 pm

*Grograt* Grograts Gonads Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 8,377 Joined: Oct 5, 2008 FireFly said: Your saying fighting Longo and Latte for first place wont be a challenge? Way to destroy your own argument there. Also, You want to see the the game improve along what you think is the best, that does not mean it is the best way, same could be said about my arguments. If its just you and lattes teams in Div 1 and then AI what is the challenge for second or first place, if everyone was in one league off course there would be a challenge. A large PVP based player challenge I have never stated ' do it this way' unlike you All members in one league, until the wrinkles are ironed out, full PVP challenge, smaller prizes ( for now ) untold bragging rights or have it your way, at least your bound to win something eh !!! 1st    $3000000    25    25% 2nd    $2400000    20    20% ......................... vet marshal wv community Posted Feb 22, 2010, 1:58 pm Last edited Feb 22, 2010, 2:02 pm by *Grograt*

FireFly Anarcho-Pumpkin Privateers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 5,468 Joined: Mar 3, 2008 Quote: I have never stated ' do it this way' unlike you I never did say "I'm right, your wrong", I'm not the one in charge, I am merely suggesting what I thing would be the best, the same thing you are doing, do not twist what I say. Well then, we do it your way, BUT, we move everyone to Div 1 instead, now, the playing field is leveled, right, now, I cant get free rewards, right? Now, if you don't want to fight in division one because the skill cap and CR is higher, well, then now you know what I feel when you want to force me to dogfight in compacts. And yes, I did the math, for division 5, between 3 players, even if we just use a phoenix with twin GG's each, it will come to a total of 354 cr, above the limit! ......................... vet wv zom gateautumn deathrceL1 elmsautumn pvp1 pvp2 sssc raceL1 e2g combatL1 santa1 pvp3 gwextrav ww circuit32,18,0 Posted Feb 22, 2010, 2:03 pm Last edited Feb 22, 2010, 2:07 pm by FireFly

*Grograt* Grograts Gonads Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 8,377 Joined: Oct 5, 2008 FireFly said: Anyway, this is what I think should be done, not that you'll listen... ......................... vet marshal wv community Posted Feb 22, 2010, 2:08 pm

FireFly Anarcho-Pumpkin Privateers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 5,468 Joined: Mar 3, 2008 *Grograt* said: FireFly said: Anyway, this is what I think should be done, not that you'll listen... What I "Think" –verb (used with object) 11. To have or form in the mind as an idea, conception, etc. 12. To consider for evaluation or for possible action Again, don't twist my words  ......................... vet wv zom gateautumn deathrceL1 elmsautumn pvp1 pvp2 sssc raceL1 e2g combatL1 santa1 pvp3 gwextrav ww circuit32,18,0 Posted Feb 22, 2010, 2:11 pm Last edited Feb 22, 2010, 2:15 pm by FireFly

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 Here's how it's going to work: 1. Each division will have a minimum of 6 teams; if there's less than 6 human entries then NPCs will make up the extra 2. The prizes will be reduced if there are less than 10 human teams in a division. ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Feb 22, 2010, 2:21 pm

FireFly Anarcho-Pumpkin Privateers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 5,468 Joined: Mar 3, 2008 That seems reasonable... but... How much of a reduction are we talking about here? I just don't see how Div 1 will ever have 10 teams in it... ......................... vet wv zom gateautumn deathrceL1 elmsautumn pvp1 pvp2 sssc raceL1 e2g combatL1 santa1 pvp3 gwextrav ww circuit32,18,0 Posted Feb 22, 2010, 2:29 pm Last edited Feb 22, 2010, 2:31 pm by FireFly

*Grograt* Grograts Gonads Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 8,377 Joined: Oct 5, 2008 how have i twisted your words, when that was a quote, please explain ......................... vet marshal wv community Posted Feb 22, 2010, 2:38 pm

*Wolfsbane* Arbiters Darkwind Guru Badlands Truckstop Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,038 Joined: Oct 9, 2009 FireFly said: That seems reasonable... but... How much of a reduction are we talking about here? It should be proportional IMO, so a 20% human division gives out 20% of the prizes.  Otherwise it's just free money for beating up the AI. ......................... vet wv marshal pvp2 cont Posted Feb 22, 2010, 2:41 pm

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 *Grograt* said: how have i twisted your words, when that was a quote, please explain Ever heard of quoting out of context? ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Feb 22, 2010, 2:46 pm

*Rezeak* The Dark Knights Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Marshals + Storytellers Posts: 2,377 Joined: Aug 8, 2009 From the RC discussion: sam said: 0-3 teams: league doesn't run 4: 70% prizes 5: 75% prizes 6: 80% prizes 7: 85% prizes 8: 90% prizes 9: 95% prizes 10: 100% prizes ......................... vet wv deathrceL1 marshal pvp2 zom pvp3 Posted Feb 22, 2010, 2:47 pm

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 That was only one suggestion, Rez.. not a decision yet. ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Feb 22, 2010, 2:47 pm

*Rezeak* The Dark Knights Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Marshals + Storytellers Posts: 2,377 Joined: Aug 8, 2009 My bad, I thought that was what was already implemented ......................... vet wv deathrceL1 marshal pvp2 zom pvp3 Posted Feb 22, 2010, 2:51 pm

*Wolfsbane* Arbiters Darkwind Guru Badlands Truckstop Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,038 Joined: Oct 9, 2009 To expand on what I said earlier - one test of the system should be that if I join a league and automatically surrender to the humans, but beat the AIs, I should at best get my money back. ......................... vet wv marshal pvp2 cont Posted Feb 22, 2010, 2:55 pm

*Rezeak* The Dark Knights Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Marshals + Storytellers Posts: 2,377 Joined: Aug 8, 2009 Wolfsbane said: To expand on what I said earlier - one test of the system should be that if I join a league and automatically surrender to the humans, but beat the AIs, I should at best get my money back. True, I can see how a league could be exploited if there are only, say, 3 teams. Which is why I like the idea of the league not running if it doesn't get more than that ......................... vet wv deathrceL1 marshal pvp2 zom pvp3 Posted Feb 22, 2010, 2:57 pm

FireFly Anarcho-Pumpkin Privateers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 5,468 Joined: Mar 3, 2008 *Rezeak* said: 0-3 teams: league doesn't run 4: 70% prizes 5: 75% prizes 6: 80% prizes 7: 85% prizes 8: 90% prizes 9: 95% prizes 10: 100% prizes This seems like a fair chart... About the "Surrendering/Exploiting" thing, I think its pretty easy to check if the battle was actually played or not. Although I'd say let a league run at 60% price with 3 entry's... ......................... vet wv zom gateautumn deathrceL1 elmsautumn pvp1 pvp2 sssc raceL1 e2g combatL1 santa1 pvp3 gwextrav ww circuit32,18,0 Posted Feb 22, 2010, 3:20 pm Last edited Feb 22, 2010, 3:22 pm by FireFly

*Wolfsbane* Arbiters Darkwind Guru Badlands Truckstop Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,038 Joined: Oct 9, 2009 ... because you want free money for beating AIs. ......................... vet wv marshal pvp2 cont Posted Feb 22, 2010, 3:31 pm

FireFly Anarcho-Pumpkin Privateers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 5,468 Joined: Mar 3, 2008 ... The AI's were never my suggestion to begin with... ......................... vet wv zom gateautumn deathrceL1 elmsautumn pvp1 pvp2 sssc raceL1 e2g combatL1 santa1 pvp3 gwextrav ww circuit32,18,0 Posted Feb 22, 2010, 3:37 pm

*Longo* Longos Merry Men Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 6,659 Joined: Dec 15, 2007 FF- Your complaining in this thread has made it very difficult to read. ......................... vet combatL1 ped1 paintladder semiprocombat ped2 wv pvp4 pvp1 gwped paintball pvp3 pvp5 slay2013 marshal circuit2 combat1 e2g raceL1 gwextrav gateautumn pvp2 triangle1 Posted Feb 22, 2010, 4:24 pm

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 Guys, leave him alone already, he hasn't been complaining that much! ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Feb 22, 2010, 4:26 pm

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