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ways to get decent skilled gangers?

Zephyr River City Gamblers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Subscribers Posts: 551 Joined: Dec 12, 2009 I'm going to be on a laptop for a bit, where I can access the DW front-end (lobby) but not launch actual play sessions. I heard once that I could sign gangers up for events and not attend the events, and the gangers would still participate in the event, as an AI-controlled character. I'm thinking of doing this to train up some drivers. Just regular Races, not Deathraces or rena combats; I figure the odds of them getting seriously hurt are less in regular races. But my question is, is it true that your ganger will participate in the event they're registered for, and potentially receive skills and maybe even prize money, even if you (the player) are not there? And of course, possibly die, yes.... ......................... vet wv Posted Dec 27, 2009, 8:29 am Last edited Dec 27, 2009, 8:30 am by Zephyr

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 Zephyr said: But my question is, is it true that your ganger will participate in the event they're registered for, and potentially receive skills and maybe even prize money, even if you (the player) are not there?  And of course, possibly die, yes.... In a town event, the vehicle auto-escapes after 30 moves if the owner hasn't logged in. I'm actually going to be removing any training and prizes earned this way, when I get around to it -- it's an exploit in my opinion rather than valid gameplay. ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Dec 27, 2009, 9:56 am

Zephyr River City Gamblers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Subscribers Posts: 551 Joined: Dec 12, 2009 OK, good to know. I won't do that, then. I just was thinking of it as "extreme training." ......................... vet wv Posted Dec 27, 2009, 10:44 pm

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,513 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 sam said: ...it's an exploit in my opinion rather than valid gameplay. Agreed. I tried this myself when I started, when I accidentally signed up for two events... my driver ended up in a coma after a nasty deville accident ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,1 Posted Dec 28, 2009, 5:06 am

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,513 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 Great tips there DA... {rip} Might just take that page. ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,1 Posted Dec 28, 2009, 5:13 am

4saken The 4saken Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 2,282 Joined: Jan 1, 2008 Quote: When you reload, kick the bazzturd out to help your medic. "There! I finally got it reloaded, sir!" "Good! Now go help the medic practice." "But how do I ---- aaaagh!" That's just so wrong, man. I am curious how medic skill actually trains, though. I have heard it only trains when a medic stop someone bleeding out. If they lose an arm, the medic just shrugs. "Can't fix that." If they don't take a serious injury, the medic just shrugs "Don't need me." So he apparently learns only when gangers take very dangerous - and very specific - types of injuries. Sam could you maybe give a little feedback on this? Also IMO medics should gain a little more training when you have injured gangers in your gang that are not in the hospital (maybe an extra 1 a week for the highest skilled medic?) Just a thought. ......................... vet combatL1 wv1,0,0 Posted Dec 28, 2009, 3:09 pm

*Rezeak* The Dark Knights Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Marshals + Storytellers Posts: 2,377 Joined: Aug 8, 2009 If you want to train a medic shove a character to train in elms for a few months, i got 2 100+ medics doing that ......................... vet wv deathrceL1 marshal pvp2 zom pvp3 Posted Dec 28, 2009, 7:55 pm

Zephyr River City Gamblers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Subscribers Posts: 551 Joined: Dec 12, 2009 Question re: training. I understand that the training "tick" is on Friday mornings. But does making a training change mid-week affect training skillups for the week? That is, if I have a ganger training Driving for 3 days and Large Guns for 4, might I get small improvements to both skills for that week? Or does the system only look at the Training setting on Friday morning when it compiles the results? ......................... vet wv Posted Jan 5, 2010, 12:35 am

*Ninesticks* The Wombles Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals + Rule Council Posts: 3,371 Joined: Apr 11, 2008 I believe that it is only what you have it last set at Zephyr. ......................... vet wv marshal pvp4 community pvp20,1,0 Posted Jan 5, 2010, 1:03 am

*Lugal* Luna Sea Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 2,246 Joined: Jan 27, 2008 Yeah that's my understanding as well. ......................... vet marshal wv Posted Jan 5, 2010, 1:08 am

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 Quote: Also I like Procyon's Guide to Character Management. Woah yeah, just checked it out. Very detailed and comprehensive. *Lugal* said: Yeah that's my understanding as well. Mine too  ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Jan 5, 2010, 11:35 am

Procyon Weak Head Normal Forms Autodueller Renegade Group: Members Posts: 384 Joined: May 31, 2009 *sam* said: Quote: Also I like Procyon's Guide to Character Management. Woah yeah, just checked it out. Very detailed and comprehensive. *blush*  Sam likes my stuff. I should probably go make sure it's up to date.  I've tweaked a few things personally since then. ......................... vet wv pvp3 Posted Jan 5, 2010, 9:52 pm

Zephyr River City Gamblers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Subscribers Posts: 551 Joined: Dec 12, 2009 Ninesticks said: I believe that it is only what you have it last set at Zephyr. OK, let me make sure I understand correctly.  Sorry, I'm dense and a noob... a dangerous combo.    This means the setting is only read when training increases are compiled on Friday morning, then?  And so, another noob question:  Do my gangers gain skill from custom events I set up?  So, if I set up a custom arena combat event with just my gangers in it, (no NPCs and no other players) and have them shoot at each others' cars, can they gain skill from that?  I hope this doesn't count as an exploit.. I'm not trying to exploit, just to set up some training exercises for my dudes.  ......................... vet wv Posted Jan 6, 2010, 12:19 am

Nekojin Cats Laughing Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Contributors Posts: 1,039 Joined: Jan 19, 2008 Zephyr said: Ninesticks said: I believe that it is only what you have it last set at Zephyr. OK, let me make sure I understand correctly.  Sorry, I'm dense and a noob... a dangerous combo.    This means the setting is only read when training increases are compiled on Friday morning, then?  That's correct. Quote: And so, another noob question:  Do my gangers gain skill from custom events I set up?  So, if I set up a custom arena combat event with just my gangers in it, (no NPCs and no other players) and have them shoot at each others' cars, can they gain skill from that?  No. You can gain skill from requested events (Races, Deathraces, Combats, etc.) where the computer picks the track, car, and NPC enemies, but not one where you control all of the details. ......................... vet deathrceL1 wv cont Posted Jan 6, 2010, 12:23 am

Karz Master Alpha Junkers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Storytellers + IP Posts: 2,375 Joined: Nov 13, 2006 Zephyr said: OK, let me make sure I understand correctly.  Sorry, I'm dense and a noob... a dangerous combo.    Well at least you're not a dense noob who enjoys playing with dolls  Yes everytime Friday 04:00 server time hits, it will only level up whichever skills you've set. IIRC, you don't gain skills from custom events, to prevent people from "grinding". ......................... vet wv zom Posted Jan 6, 2010, 12:25 am

Zephyr River City Gamblers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Subscribers Posts: 551 Joined: Dec 12, 2009 Karz Master said: Zephyr said: OK, let me make sure I understand correctly.  Sorry, I'm dense and a noob... a dangerous combo.    Well at least you're not a dense noob who enjoys playing with dolls  They're not dolls, they're "Fine Scale Miniatures!"  At least, that's what I tell my wife.    ......................... vet wv Posted Jan 6, 2010, 7:53 pm

Zephyr River City Gamblers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Subscribers Posts: 551 Joined: Dec 12, 2009 4saken said: Note also that the training camp can train up to 5 points a week in a skill, or even 7 for a skill it specializes in (driving for SS, medic for elms).  I myself pay close attention to this and am a bit rougher on my idiots who only gain 1 or 2 a week. The 5 a week guys are gold. They get the chushy job of going on easy scouts or just hanging around SS and training all the time. So I carefully recorded all my gangers' skills and tracked them, pre-training tick and post-tick.  All are in SS, training Driving.  The result?  +3 points was the average.  A few got +2, a few got +4.  Two received no skill increase, but they were in the hospital so that may have been it.  But no one got five or more.  Does that mean my gang is just really lame?  It kinda seems that way.  ......................... vet wv Posted Jan 8, 2010, 9:10 am

*Marc5iver* 5ive Crew Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 1,354 Joined: Oct 10, 2008 Any of my gangers who gain more then 1 point, I consider very good. ......................... vet wv gwextrav e2g marshal pvp4 pvp3 pvp2 Posted Jan 8, 2010, 9:13 am

Procyon Weak Head Normal Forms Autodueller Renegade Group: Members Posts: 384 Joined: May 31, 2009 Zephyr said: 4saken said: Note also that the training camp can train up to 5 points a week in a skill, or even 7 for a skill it specializes in (driving for SS, medic for elms).  I myself pay close attention to this and am a bit rougher on my idiots who only gain 1 or 2 a week. The 5 a week guys are gold. They get the chushy job of going on easy scouts or just hanging around SS and training all the time. So I carefully recorded all my gangers' skills and tracked them, pre-training tick and post-tick.  All are in SS, training Driving.  The result?  +3 points was the average.  A few got +2, a few got +4.  Two received no skill increase, but they were in the hospital so that may have been it.  But no one got five or more.  Does that mean my gang is just really lame?  It kinda seems that way.  Those numbers look about average.  They will go up after extensive exposure to a motivator, but not dramatically so (double at the most). ......................... vet wv pvp3 Posted Jan 8, 2010, 5:37 pm

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 Quote: extensive exposure The word "extensive" is actually quite important here. What a motivator does is increase the upwards trend in training form. Hence it takes some time to start realising the benefits. ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Jan 8, 2010, 5:42 pm

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