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*StCrispin* Beasts of the Lair Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,657 Joined: Feb 13, 2012 Longo said: *sam* said: The thing to remember is that everyone is equally affected, including NPCs. It will tend to make combats more close-quarters, which will itself make them a bit harder, but it won't make anyone better at hitting than you who previously wasn't (unlike what would have happened if sniper was removed from use for any weapons) Very true. Example I just had - I had a 181 gunner with Snipe 5 missing at 50 meters vs a Wurzel. I panicked a bit, but then also realized they were missing me also. I won the encounter with no significant worries. I'm actually missing LESS and hitting at longer ranges than before (83m instead of my usual 64m) My guys I ran were SNP1, MOV1, on a +5 MMG and a +5 HMG. Didn't see much change for the CC or ATG gunners. ......................... vet wv gwped paintladder paintball marshal raceL10,1,0 Posted Jul 25, 2014, 9:21 pm

*K1500* Big Dumb Object Autodueller Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 394 Joined: Dec 29, 2011 StCrispin said: I'm actually missing LESS and hitting at longer ranges than before (83m instead of my usual 64m) My guys I ran were SNP1, MOV1, on a +5 MMG and a +5 HMG. Didn't see much change for the CC or ATG gunners. Yeah it's interesting seeing how the different specs are behaving. My SNP2 on a +5% acc CC is building purple later but once he starts to it pretty much jumps to a full bar straight away - somewhere around 90m or so. My MG3 guy on a HMG (+5% Acc & Dam) takes a little longer, but again once he starts building purple it goes from almost nothing to pretty much full in a turn at about 80m or so. I'm getting the feeling that the base skill level is perhaps playing a bigger role than it had previously (perhaps simple due to SNP playing a bit of a lesser role). Don't know if it's at all related but the enemies do seem to be resigning a bit later as well - but this could with us not stressing them out quite so early. Almost always having to wreck their engines to force a resign (after numerous turns of blue text). K ......................... vet wv zom circuit1 storm2013 circuit3 marshal pvp2 ped2 pvp4 circuit2 ped1 gwped0,1,0 Posted Jul 25, 2014, 10:24 pm

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,781 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 K1500 said: I'm getting the feeling that the base skill level is perhaps playing a bigger role than it had previously (perhaps simple due to SNP playing a bit of a lesser role). That sounds likely, yes. K1500 said: Don't know if it's at all related but the enemies do seem to be resigning a bit later as well - but this could with us not stressing them out quite so early. Almost always having to wreck their engines to force a resign (after numerous turns of blue text). One thing this underlines is that we're dealing with a very complex system at this point, with many factors influencing each other in different ways.. which is why treading with caution is advised when it comes to making changes. I have tended to be a bit heavy-handed at times. ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Jul 26, 2014, 10:07 am

*K1500* Big Dumb Object Autodueller Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 394 Joined: Dec 29, 2011 I can only start to imaging how complex the relationship is between the different elements within the game. On the whole I think that the change has been a good one - the AI certainly seems to be "playing" a better game than we may have been previously used to. I also quite like that the raw skills are potentially playing a bigger part. It's going to highlight a good contrast between the specialists and those who go for cross-training. I've been enjoying experimenting with the different specialisms as well. I am slightly dreading the first Morgan defence. If some of the southern scouts I've seen are anything to go by then the defence could be a bit more like some of the early ones before we got established - i.e. thrilling, chaotic and scary! Of course it may all go well if we're wary and coordinated. K ......................... vet wv zom circuit1 storm2013 circuit3 marshal pvp2 ped2 pvp4 circuit2 ped1 gwped0,1,0 Posted Jul 26, 2014, 10:43 am

*Boonwolf* Finger 3 Darkwind Guru Morgan Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 1,139 Joined: Mar 7, 2012 I for one haven't had to much issue fighting in Morgan or Texan. Do like the closer fighting. Sniper 4 HVY 3 MT 1 isn't getting purple until 105-95M but he has lost 3 legs so yeah he is a bit demoralize or enraged IDK Note tail gunning a CC ......................... vet wv paintball paintladder ped1 race1 semiprocombat zom marshal pvp20,5,0 Posted Jul 26, 2014, 11:57 am Last edited Jul 26, 2014, 11:59 am by Boonwolf

*StCrispin* Beasts of the Lair Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,657 Joined: Feb 13, 2012 Co-ordinated he say... And this happens in Morgan how often? Lol. We are like a pack of hungry wild animals chasing a cheeseburger. Lol. Sometimes I think we pull those off from sheer audacity and bravery, other times because we are so unorthodox that it confuses the AI ......................... vet wv gwped paintladder paintball marshal raceL10,1,0 Posted Jul 26, 2014, 8:01 pm

*K1500* Big Dumb Object Autodueller Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 394 Joined: Dec 29, 2011 StCrispin said: Co-ordinated he say... And this happens in Morgan how often?  Lol. We are like a pack of hungry wild animals chasing a cheeseburger. Lol.  Sometimes I think we pull those off from sheer audacity and bravery, other times because we are so unorthodox that it confuses the AI True - but compared with the early days of the defence we're very coordinated! We know the map better, we have generally set (basic) strategies, people build for that strategy, we often have a drop vehicle, recently Smokey has been using ballistics, we prioritise certain targets - for a while we had the muscle wing to split the AI pack as well. Sure it's no military masterpiece but there is a degree of coordination, even if it's unspoken. K ......................... vet wv zom circuit1 storm2013 circuit3 marshal pvp2 ped2 pvp4 circuit2 ped1 gwped0,1,0 Posted Jul 26, 2014, 8:36 pm

*StCrispin* Beasts of the Lair Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,657 Joined: Feb 13, 2012 I will unfortunately be missing this week's trial by fire due to the wedding and the recent discovery that we actually ARE taking a honeymoon. Gotta love how women change their minds at the last minute. But due to car breakdowns my family won't be able to make it to the wedding so you might still have Boon's help. I also chalk our wins up to the Mogan crew having a close bond. We cover each other, rescue each other, and risk life and limb to support each other. We've seen what types of things can happen and can identify when they are about to occur and we react accordingly with heart and determination. I really think that counts for a decent portion. Heart, Intuition, Dedication, Courage. Sounds like some battle cry... Lol ......................... vet wv gwped paintladder paintball marshal raceL10,1,0 Posted Jul 26, 2014, 9:11 pm

*Longo* Longos Merry Men Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 6,670 Joined: Dec 15, 2007 I updated the wiki for soft/hard caps - Does this look correct? Specialism Caps Specialism Caps > Specialism Caps Contents [hide]     1 No Cap with Continuous Benefit     2 Soft Cap Due to Diminishing Returns     3 Hard Cap with Otherwise Continuous Benefit     4 Hard cap and Diminishing Returns [edit] No Cap with Continuous Benefit These specialisms can be taken as many times as desired, and each new level provides the same benefit.     Machineguns     Heavy Weapons     Flamethrowers     Ballistic Prediction     Rocketeer     Reload In Motion     Salvager     Jury Rigger     Field First Aid     Combat Psychologist     Shoot from the Hip     Long Throw     Runner     Recruiter     Motivator     Pragmatist     Adrenaline Junkie [edit] Soft Cap Due to Diminishing Returns These specialisms can be taken as many times as desired, but each level provides smaller benefits after level 1. Exact numbers are currently unknown.     Moving Targets     Sniper     Courage Under Fire     Defensive Driver     Deathracer     Slipstreamer     Pyrokinesis     Defensive Energy     Rapid Reloading     Engine Tuning     Jumpstart     Rapidshot     Negotiator     Car Killer     Eye of the Hurricane     Offensive Driver     Mind Control [edit] Hard Cap with Otherwise Continuous Benefit These specialisms can only be chosen a set number of times, but each level provides the same benefit.     Minelayer [edit] Hard cap and Diminishing Returns These specialisms can only be chosen a set number of times, and each level provides a smaller benefit.     Laserfire --- Level 3 Let me know if anything needs changing. Took me a while to find my wiki password. -Longo ......................... vet combatL1 ped1 paintladder semiprocombat ped2 wv pvp4 pvp1 gwped paintball pvp3 pvp5 slay2013 marshal circuit2 combat1 e2g raceL1 gwextrav gateautumn pvp2 triangle1 Posted Jul 28, 2014, 9:12 pm

Bolt Thrower Quantum Symphony Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 727 Joined: Sep 12, 2013 R.I.P. BPU ......................... vet wv northernsummer1,91,1 Posted Aug 4, 2014, 10:36 pm

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