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"Accidental" Intercepts, clarification needed

*StCrispin* Beasts of the Lair Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,657 Joined: Feb 13, 2012 From my own experience, during 4 to 5 months of running 6 to 10 travels per night, I was only intercepted 4 times. On all occasions I launched the travels while NOT logged into the client (from my phone at work). My intercepts were from: 1) my brother Boonwolf as we both processed a BL town exit, unarmed travel. 2) Nechrotech while we were both exiting BL to take our CoE cars someplace else, 3) Snipe. also exiting BL. 4) I think Serephe but i forget. Im pretty sure the way it determines your opponent is like the old encounter charts for RPG pen&paper games where a random # is generated and it checks it against a list such as (1D20 used as example) 1-18 AI Gang 19-20 Available players then it checks against the "pool" ie:a Call Data operation (or whatever it is called now-a-days. for example: 3 players are all waiting on the head to pop for their BL exit. you "roll" a PvP result and then it simply chooses one of those 3. Or you roll an AI result and the program knows the Data String contains 12 items and generates a random number between 1 and 12 {let x=(int(rnd)*12)+1} then it pulls the gang from the Data line {Data=Robberbaron, Buccyboo, Fartknocker, JoeBlough, EvanReds, PoppaWickit, Doofuses} etcetera Think LESS about how a computer might do this, and more about how a pen&paper game would. Then consider the fact that there are probably no loopholes because if there were and you found them, you would be breaking the rules by using them. ......................... vet wv gwped paintladder paintball marshal raceL10,1,0 Posted Nov 29, 2012, 6:15 am

Blackwill Shankill Butchers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 650 Joined: Jul 27, 2012 Understood. However, the main idea was not the random intercepts you speak of, but, rather, could a player avoid intentional (targeted) intercepts by travelling this way. It appears to be so, but I will await confirmation from Sam. If this is the case, I am not sure how it could be fixed to close the exploit opportunity without making travel unweildy. Again, I have sent the request to Sam, and await his reply. ......................... vet wv deathrceL1 Posted Nov 29, 2012, 2:46 pm

*Tinker* BibleThumpers Anonymous Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 4,546 Joined: Aug 1, 2008 Blackwill said: Thanks for the information you provided during your participation, Latte.  Much appreciated. That having been said, it does appear that issuing travel orders while not logged into the client makes it impossible for targeted intercepts to occur.  I have tested this process twice now, with the same result.  No opportunity to intercept. As for the sequence of events that Latte outlined above, there appears to be some debate about it.  And, while some may have already grown bored with the discussion, I will continue to look for a difinitive answer, since no one really seems to know for sure.  A lot of guesses, a lot of assumptions, and a bit of contradictory evidence, but no answers. Keep trying with no scout, and ask a player with a decent scout to try and get ya ......................... vet marshal wv pvp3 zom circuit2 pvp1 cont Posted Nov 29, 2012, 7:40 pm

Alec Burke Overlanders Autodueller Renegade Group: Members Posts: 480 Joined: Sep 5, 2010 *Tinker* said: Keep trying with no scout, and ask a player with a decent scout to try and get ya Or at the very least, have a gang that is PVP Open try to target you. I'm not certain what exactly this test was, but if Useless Children was the one trying to intercept, that was impossible given the fact he is not open for PVP. And from what StCrispin posted, I don't know if all four events were accidental or not. The first two certainly were, but Snipe and Serephe could have been intentional PVP intercepts. ......................... vet wv pvp5 pvp2 Posted Nov 29, 2012, 8:32 pm Last edited Nov 29, 2012, 8:33 pm by Alec Burke

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,908 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 jesus.. im tempted to send my spies out and see when he is on his phone and then intercept him and kill him utterly just to make this stop ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted Nov 29, 2012, 9:55 pm

*StCrispin* Beasts of the Lair Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,657 Joined: Feb 13, 2012 None of mine resulted in a fight. It was a long time ago before the PvP push kicked in but they did seem to all occur in the same few week period of time. 2 CoE seasons ago, Snipe occured 1 week after the BL CoE, the 4th (Sere I think but maybe not. Cant remember) was 2 weeks after the BL CoE. So it could be that it was CoE car intercepting to prevent someone getting the next week's points. Back on topic: Blackwill, let us know what Sam says about this if he doesnt answer here. Im pretty sure avoidance isnt possible but im curious how it decides. It would be nice if the intercept system was a bit more intuitive and user friendly to use/initiate. ......................... vet wv gwped paintladder paintball marshal raceL10,1,0 Posted Nov 29, 2012, 10:05 pm Last edited Nov 29, 2012, 10:09 pm by StCrispin

*StCrispin* Beasts of the Lair Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,657 Joined: Feb 13, 2012 goat starer said: jesus.. im tempted to send my spies out and see when he is on his phone and then intercept him and kill him utterly just to make this stop This would be awsome. ......................... vet wv gwped paintladder paintball marshal raceL10,1,0 Posted Nov 29, 2012, 10:10 pm

Blackwill Shankill Butchers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 650 Joined: Jul 27, 2012 The tests were just to see if my squads showed up in the minitoring/intercept windows. They did not. I understand goat's frustration, as well. But I am not content to let "possibly" and "seems to me" to take the place of corroborated evidence, especially when my own observations are in conflict with the accepted logic. The simplest solution, for goat, would be to not read the thread if it bothers him. Or, you know, hunt me down in an effort to silence me. Ill post any further results here, as requested. Those who are not interested can avoid the topic quite easily. ......................... vet wv deathrceL1 Posted Nov 29, 2012, 10:45 pm

*Brunwulf* Wulf Guard Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 1,299 Joined: May 17, 2012 I just had an 'accidental' PVP with Tez (Blood Roses) Turns out we were BOTH hunting RAIDERS. Is this why we had the 'accidental' PVP- because we were both hunting the same enemy, at the same time- or is it just total co-incidence? ......................... vet ww wv e2g gwextrav sssc northernsummer gateautumn deathrce1 marshal race1 raceL1 combat1 pvp5 pvp4 pvp3 pvp20,1,0 Posted Dec 12, 2012, 8:35 pm

Blackwill Shankill Butchers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 650 Joined: Jul 27, 2012 That is the rumor ......................... vet wv deathrceL1 Posted Dec 12, 2012, 10:46 pm

musashi_san sunset samurai Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 1,118 Joined: May 7, 2012 if tez doesn't want his cars back i'd be willing to entertain buying one. awesome skins. ......................... vet wv pvp4 pvp2 pvp1 Posted Dec 12, 2012, 11:13 pm

*Brunwulf* Wulf Guard Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 1,299 Joined: May 17, 2012 Sorry- I gave them back to him- keep on his good side as i'm sure that's not the last we will see each other in the wilds! ......................... vet ww wv e2g gwextrav sssc northernsummer gateautumn deathrce1 marshal race1 raceL1 combat1 pvp5 pvp4 pvp3 pvp20,1,0 Posted Dec 13, 2012, 7:59 am

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