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League tiebreakers

Racing Robbie The White Ashes Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 761 Joined: Jul 3, 2012 Trying to think in terms of what is going on in the background – I guess that the league table is held as a table in a database, so would it be possible to expand the details it held so for each player in that league it records the position finished in each race entered – doesn’t need the indivual race details just the position. And then when there is a tie in points it compares the numbers in the 1st, 2nd etc columns and the first highest number wins. Depending on the software running the numbers - it shouldn’t be too hard to do the comparison side of things, might be difficult to create the routine that records the position. ......................... vet wv northernsummer e2g raceL1 deathrceL1 slay2013 pvp3 ww pvp1 semiprocombat0,1,0 Posted Jun 26, 2015, 8:48 am

Lord Foul .-^-HellRazors-^. Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Rules Council Posts: 3,543 Joined: Jan 12, 2008 Here's something I posted back in 2010 about this subject. Quote: If it's a tie, Have it go to player with the best average of their combined placing during the league. So if one player was 1st 3 out of 4 weeks, but it ended in a tie, then it goes to the player who was in first place the most during the league. This would be similar to how nascar does it, who had most first place finishes, then who had the most second place finishes etc.. If by some odd occurrence both players were tied each week for first place or were in first place an equal amount of times during the league, then it would go to the player who scored the the highest amount of points in a single league event. This would represent the player had fought/raced against the most live players to actually obtain the league points needed to place 1st. ......................... vet race1 deathrce1 wv zom circuit1 pvp1 northernsummer community circuit3 paintball55,205,126 Posted Jun 27, 2015, 5:26 am

DirkNotSoGently Holistic Detective Agency Autodueller Civs Faction Group: Members Posts: 261 Joined: Nov 11, 2011 Lord Foul said: Here's something I posted back in 2010 about this subject. Quote: If it's a tie, Have it go to player with the best average of their combined placing during the league. So if one player was 1st 3 out of 4 weeks, but it ended in a tie, then it goes to the player who was in first place the most during the league. This would be similar to how nascar does it, who had most first place finishes, then who had the most second place finishes etc.. If by some odd occurrence both players were tied each week for first place or were in first place an equal amount of times during the league, then it would go to the player who scored the the highest amount of points in a single league event. This would represent the player had fought/raced against the most live players to actually obtain the league points needed to place 1st. Good suggestions - but of course neither one prevents the possibility of an edge-case where there is *still* a tie I work as an analyst for a major investment bank - and any suggestion still returning the chance of the same problem would be dismissed out of hand What we need is a simple, easy to implement solution, which removes any chance of a tie - while not *great*, Sam's fix does meet that criteria - even if only as an interim measure while something better is considered ......................... vet wv deathrce1 pvp5 pvp1 pvp2 circuit3 circuit2 Posted Jun 27, 2015, 6:27 am

NotSure Dead Ferrets Sunday Driver Renegade Group: Members Posts: 42 Joined: Jan 20, 2015 Dirk, can I use your quote when dealing with my operations team? "... any suggestion still returning the chance of the same problem would be dismissed out of hand" Brilliant! I know too well where you are coming from on this. That said, what if SAM's patch was to remain AND we were able to add Lord Foul's recommendation? As for the coding, I guess I don't understand the architecture sufficiently to comment other than to say ANYTHING can be coded provided there is enough time, will, and resources. Not sure any of those attributes apply to this situation. Cheers ......................... vet wv Posted Jun 27, 2015, 1:54 pm

*Brunwulf* Wulf Guard Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 1,299 Joined: May 17, 2012 Lord Foul said: Here's something I posted back in 2010 about this subject. Quote: If it's a tie, Have it go to player with the best average of their combined placing during the league. So if one player was 1st 3 out of 4 weeks, but it ended in a tie, then it goes to the player who was in first place the most during the league. This would be similar to how nascar does it, who had most first place finishes, then who had the most second place finishes etc.. If by some odd occurrence both players were tied each week for first place or were in first place an equal amount of times during the league, then it would go to the player who scored the the highest amount of points in a single league event. This would represent the player had fought/raced against the most live players to actually obtain the league points needed to place 1st. Yep- That's more or less what I was trying to say. A few months ago, we were all very grateful for anything SAM did to keep this game going as we all knew he wasn't making much out of it. With the influx of new players, and the CHR profits, the "that's too difficult to implement" line just doesn't ride now. (I will now duck down behind the parapet, and await the tirade!) ......................... vet ww wv e2g gwextrav sssc northernsummer gateautumn deathrce1 marshal race1 raceL1 combat1 pvp5 pvp4 pvp3 pvp20,1,0 Posted Jun 27, 2015, 2:36 pm

DirkNotSoGently Holistic Detective Agency Autodueller Civs Faction Group: Members Posts: 261 Joined: Nov 11, 2011 NotSure said: As for the coding, I guess I don't understand the architecture sufficiently to comment other than to say ANYTHING can be coded provided there is enough time, will, and resources. Not sure any of those attributes apply to this situation. Agreed - anything at all *can* be coded - but to Brun's point, there seems to have been a point where hope for bug fixes and enhancements was all but lost. In that context, I see Sam's current code change as a simple improvement to the status quo - not perfect, agreed - but the man hours involved in coding one of the more complex solutions (fairer though they clearly are) may not be forthcoming ......................... vet wv deathrce1 pvp5 pvp1 pvp2 circuit3 circuit2 Posted Jun 27, 2015, 4:37 pm Last edited Jun 27, 2015, 4:37 pm by DirkNotSoGently

*The X Man* Better Off Dead Darkwind Guru Slavers Faction Group: Game Manager Posts: 2,215 Joined: Jul 25, 2012 Dirk understands, so at least I know I am not the only one. As for Brun, I think I will have better luck talking to his doggie first, then have him translate it to Brun for me... minus the remote. ......................... vet wv marshal paintladder zom circuit3 paintball raceL1 race1 pvp4 hammer circuit2 pvp2 circuit1 gwped pvp5 pvp3 pvp1 deathrceL1 triangle1 combatL1 elmsautumn combat1 northernsummer1,3,0 Posted Jun 27, 2015, 4:52 pm

*Brunwulf* Wulf Guard Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 1,299 Joined: May 17, 2012 WOOF, WOOF, WOOF, WOOF, WOOF. Ah, OK - I get it now. ......................... vet ww wv e2g gwextrav sssc northernsummer gateautumn deathrce1 marshal race1 raceL1 combat1 pvp5 pvp4 pvp3 pvp20,1,0 Posted Jun 27, 2015, 5:01 pm

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