*sam* Posted May 21, 2009, 2:52 pm |
We're going to work on a number of short youtube videos focused on specific tasks in the game. The tutorial will show the website and gameclient being used to perform the task, with a voiceover from the illustrious JD Basher.
What I envisage is a webpage with a list of topics: "How do I buy a car", "How do I go scouting", etc. What I'm seeking here are suggestions as to what the topics would be. Here's some that spring to mind: * How do I go scouting? * How do I hire a car? * How do I buy a car? * How do I do a courier mission? * How do I join a league event? * How do I repair my car? * OK, so I'm in the game. What now? |
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Whiskey Posted May 21, 2009, 3:02 pm |
Great idea. Reading the Wiki isn't as enlightening as actually seeing it done. For the very VERY newbie, I suggest breaking it up into small bites of info. Driving School: A step by step on entering Driving School and how to operate the basic controls on the car. End with how to enter a race for fun and profit. Deathracing: Explains and demonstrates various methods of assigning gunners to weapons, selecting targets, etc. The Arena: Explains and demonstrates how to use terrain to advantage. |
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*Ninesticks* Posted May 21, 2009, 3:19 pm |
* How does looting work?
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*Lugal* Posted May 21, 2009, 4:52 pm |
What can I do in town?
- Break down of the functions of the Tavern, Store, Market, Hospital, Training Center... what am I missing? What is a Camp? - Basic overview of player camps. Not really a new player feature, but it's good to explain what it is - especially if the videos also serve as promotional bits. |
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Jaguar Posted May 22, 2009, 5:38 am |
I'd start by looking at the sort of questions that appear in game and in the forums first.
Joining a squad, getting two entries in an event, etc. I'd especially look at things that veterans tend to take for granted but that are minor enough that they're easily missed unless you ask - like the F2 and F3 keys for instance. |
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metrocube Posted May 22, 2009, 6:21 am |
Some folks like videos, some folks like to read. If I could make one suggestion, it would be to get some re-use out of the voice-over scripts. The raw V.O. scripts would make excellent research material, and those of us so inclined would use them as a basis for some good reference topics.
It's a three-day weekend for us Yankees, and writing some help files for y'all is as good a break as any from my RealJob™. |
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*Grograt* gary.r.horder@gmail.com Posted May 22, 2009, 7:26 am |
PV Bloody P , now theres a topic we could all do with | ||
Jaguar Posted May 22, 2009, 7:27 am |
Oh, how to get event IDs and do recordings. | ||
Jaguar Posted May 23, 2009, 7:45 am |
How events work and when they start. IE when everyone is in and read and if it doesn't start away, why (not everyone registered is in game). | ||
simonmaxhill Posted May 23, 2009, 8:18 am |
Missions: the different kinds, how to accept them and accomplish them.
Pro events: how can I arrange to be in them? Money: how do I get me some of that stuff? |
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Jaguar Posted May 23, 2009, 10:34 am |
Escaping scouts at 350 and 500. Moving cars around during the set up stage. How surrendering and footsquads work. Ped weapons. Deathrace and combat ped options. | ||
Jaguar Posted May 24, 2009, 3:48 am |
How to add goods of different sorts (weapons, courier packages, etc) to vehicles | ||
*JD_Basher* jd.basher@charter.net Posted May 24, 2009, 5:05 am |
=============================== Lets help Sam and Olena out by trying to keep this as easy as possible without them or me having to do too much work to accomplish this GREAT idea! Put your suggestions under the heading your idea pertains to AFTER you copy and paste OR just reply to the most recent one. If you use the 'reply' try to leave the headings bold like they are, easier to read. Just delete all the "quote] [/quote" at the start and end of your reply and add your ideas. =============================== * OK, so I'm in the game. What now? **Money: how do I get me some of that stuff? **Driving School: A step by step on entering Driving School and how to operate the basic controls on the car. End with how to enter a race for fun and profit. **Deathracing: Explains and demonstrates various methods of assigning gunners to weapons, selecting targets, etc. **The Arena: Explains and demonstrates how to use terrain to advantage. * How do I go scouting? ** How does looting work? * How do I hire a car? ** * How do I buy a car? ** * How do I do a courier mission? **Missions: the different kinds, how to accept them and accomplish them. **How to add goods of different sorts (weapons, courier packages, etc) to vehicles * How do I join a league event? **How events work and when they start. * How do I repair my car? ** * What can I do in town? **Break down of the functions of the Tavern, Store, Market, Hospital, Training Center... what am I missiing? * What is a Camp? **Basic overview of player camps. Not really a new player feature, but it's good to explain what it is - especially if the videos also serve as promotional bits. * Missions * The different kinds, how to accept them and accomplish them. * Pro events ** How can I arrange to be in them? =================================== Have an idea for a MAIN heading? put it in! just leave room below with 2 ** for any additional sub-headings in that category. Hopefully I explained it good enough. This way the scripts I'll be reading and the Tutorials may be able to be made faster. Keep the ideas coming in! Thanks! JD |
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*JD_Basher* jd.basher@charter.net Posted May 24, 2009, 5:36 am |
OK..oopsss wrong bump. | ||
Speed_Melon Posted May 24, 2009, 9:00 pm |
An overview of the client interface would be helpful, such as what is monitoring Town Gates, my scouting squad. etc... and also show typical usage of how to interact with both client and web. An example of this would be while you can register for a town event through the client there are times when you may want to register using the web. | ||
*JD_Basher* jd.basher@charter.net Posted May 24, 2009, 9:43 pm |
=============================== * OK, so I'm in the game. What now? **Money: how do I get me some of that stuff? **Driving School: A step by step on entering Driving School and how to operate the basic controls on the car. End with how to enter a race for fun and profit. **Deathracing: Explains and demonstrates various methods of assigning gunners to weapons, selecting targets, etc. **The Arena: Explains and demonstrates how to use terrain to advantage. * How do I go scouting? ** How does looting work? * How do I hire a car? ** * How do I buy a car? ** * How do I do a courier mission? **Missions: the different kinds, how to accept them and accomplish them. **How to add goods of different sorts (weapons, courier packages, etc) to vehicles * How do I join a league event? **How events work and when they start. * How do I repair my car? ** * What can I do in town? **Break down of the functions of the Tavern, Store, Market, Hospital, Training Center... what am I missiing? * What is a Camp? **Basic overview of player camps. Not really a new player feature, but it's good to explain what it is - especially if the videos also serve as promotional bits. * Missions * The different kinds, how to accept them and accomplish them. * Pro events ** How can I arrange to be in them? *Client GUI 'Graphic User Interface' ** An overview of the client interface would be helpful. ** what is 'monitoring Town Gates?' ** my scouting squad. ** also show typical usage of how to interact with both client and web. ** while you can register for a town event through the client there are times when you may want to register using the web. =================================== |
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*Grograt* gary.r.horder@gmail.com Posted May 24, 2009, 10:12 pm |
What is PVP
Can i be attacked How can i attack |
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Jaguar Posted May 25, 2009, 7:15 pm |
In the game section
How to recruit and how it works. Also, how not to worry that you just lost the first 5 events you joined and got all your starting gang members killed because that's okay - it's part of the game (ie this game is somewhat hardcore so be prepared). |
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*JD_Basher* jd.basher@charter.net Posted May 25, 2009, 7:24 pm |
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* OK, so I'm in the game. What now? ** Money: how do I get me some of that stuff? ** Driving School: A step by step on entering Driving School and how to operate the basic controls on the car. End with how to enter a race for fun and profit. ** Deathracing: Explains and demonstrates various methods of assigning gunners to weapons, selecting targets, etc. ** The Arena: Explains and demonstrates how to use terrain to advantage. * My Gang ** Recruiting, can I get more members in my gang? ** I just ran (and lost) the events I signed up for and killed ALL of my gang! What now? * What is "PVP"? ** Can I be attacked? ** How can I attack others? * How do I go scouting? ** How does looting work? * How do I hire a car? ** * How do I buy a car? ** * How do I do a courier mission? **Missions: the different kinds, how to accept them and accomplish them. **How to add goods of different sorts (weapons, courier packages, etc) to vehicles * How do I join a league event? **How events work and when they start. * How do I repair my car? ** * What can I do in town? **Break down of the functions of the Tavern, Store, Market, Hospital, Training Center... what am I missiing? * What is a Camp? **Basic overview of player camps. Not really a new player feature, but it's good to explain what it is - especially if the videos also serve as promotional bits. * Missions * The different kinds, how to accept them and accomplish them. * Pro events ** How can I arrange to be in them? *Client GUI 'Graphic User Interface' ** An overview of the client interface would be helpful. ** what is 'monitoring Town Gates?' ** my scouting squad. ** also show typical usage of how to interact with both client and web. ** while you can register for a town event through the client there are times when you may want to register using the web. =================================== |
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*JD_Basher* jd.basher@charter.net Posted May 25, 2009, 7:30 pm |
These are GREAT suggestions!
Keep them coming in! I'll keep adding to the list! listmasterJD |
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Jaguar Posted May 25, 2009, 8:45 pm |
Oh, what you can and can not do as a non-subscriber. I had someone who thought that as a non-sub your guys don't develop their skills or what not. Clarifying the particulars like that would be good.
Also, some leagues require you register for them via the website. That wasn't explained anywhere I could find - I just figured it out myself. |
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Jaguar Posted May 25, 2009, 8:50 pm |
How to take back a move before the turn is resolved - that is, because tab doesn't unsubmit a move, someone may think that once you submit, it's set. But you can actually click the button to undo it as long as someone else has not done so either. | ||
*JD_Basher* jd.basher@charter.net Posted May 25, 2009, 10:50 pm |
=============================== * Subscriber/Non-Subscriber ** What you can and can not do as a non-subscriber. Someone thought that as a non-sub your guys don't develop their skills or what not. Clarifying the particulars. * OK, so I'm in the game. What now? ** Money: how do I get me some of that stuff? ** Driving School: A step by step on entering Driving School and how to operate the basic controls on the car. End with how to enter a race for fun and profit. ** Deathracing: Explains and demonstrates various methods of assigning gunners to weapons, selecting targets, etc. ** The Arena: Explains and demonstrates how to use terrain to advantage. * My Gang ** Recruiting, can I get more members in my gang? ** I just ran (and lost) the events I signed up for and killed ALL of my gang! What now? * What is "PVP"? ** Can I be attacked? ** How can I attack others? * How do I go scouting? ** How does looting work? * How do I hire a car? ** * How do I buy a car? ** * How do I do a courier mission? ** Missions: the different kinds, how to accept them and accomplish them. ** How to add goods of different sorts (weapons, courier packages, etc) to vehicles * How do I join a league event? ** How events work and when they start. ** Some leagues require you register for them via the website. That wasn't explained anywhere. * How do I repair my car? ** * What can I do in town? ** Break down of the functions of the Tavern, Store, Market, Hospital, Training Center... what am I missiing? * What is a Camp? ** Basic overview of player camps. Not really a new player feature, but it's good to explain what it is - especially if the videos also serve as promotional bits. * Missions ** The different kinds, how to accept them and accomplish them. * Pro events ** How can I arrange to be in them? *Client GUI 'Graphic User Interface' ** An overview of the client interface would be helpful. ** what is 'monitoring Town Gates?' ** my scouting squad. ** also show typical usage of how to interact with both client and web. ** while you can register for a town event through the client there are times when you may want to register using the web. ** Taking 'back' your turn before the turn is resolved. ie: reissuing a turn if a mistake is made. =================================== |
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*JD_Basher* jd.basher@charter.net Posted May 25, 2009, 10:53 pm |
Thanks Jag!.....
Your insights as a new player will REALLY help us iron out the tutorials. JD |
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*Grograt* gary.r.horder@gmail.com Posted May 25, 2009, 10:58 pm |
Marshals
who are the guys with the * what can they do for me and my gang what are their role in the lobby |
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Jaguar Posted May 28, 2009, 8:56 am |
How to change armor types. | ||
*sam* Posted May 29, 2009, 1:29 pm |
Thanks guys. We're going to focus on stuff that's completely within the game client, to start with. This is because the website is currently being reworked so some of the web-based actions will be changing (for the better, I hope). | ||
*Grograt* gary.r.horder@gmail.com Posted May 29, 2009, 1:33 pm |
Nice one sam , any time scale for release for the new site | ||
*sam* Posted May 29, 2009, 1:45 pm |
I'm not positive grog.. hopefully it will be partially working in the next couple of weeks. I'm planning to have it running in parallel to the current site, so we can have a gradual transition/beta. | ||
*Grograt* gary.r.horder@gmail.com Posted May 29, 2009, 4:19 pm |
Im glad you said that |
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Jaguar Posted May 30, 2009, 7:04 am |
Energy and the green bar next to passengers. How it works in general and what it means. | ||
Jaguar Posted Jun 5, 2009, 3:15 am |
How to add specials. How to revoke event entries. | ||
Jaguar Posted Jun 6, 2009, 4:00 pm |
Oh, one thing to keep in mind, by the way, is to avoid using lingo and general assumptions. New players and/or people not familiar with indepth car stuff will not know what it means to hook around something, what a bpu is, etc etc etc. It can be easy to explain things in terms you're familiar resulting in answers that don't really answer anything.
Likewise, explain things adequately. Just staying "Do this. That's the right way" doesn't help people understand why they're doing things or why they should do it that way. |
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Jaguar Posted Jun 13, 2009, 10:19 pm |
How to escape in town events; it's not stated that if your guy is still awake, they can jump out and escape to avoid getting creamed in a defenseless car, potentially. | ||
Jaguar Posted Jun 14, 2009, 9:55 am |
How to truce. | ||
Skasi Posted Aug 20, 2009, 10:43 pm |
How does Paintball work? There's no information in the wiki!
How to target with handguns? oh and.. beside all that.. most importantly why doesn't my char keep moving, if I tell him to stand up? |
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Rick #Red# Ryder Posted Jan 18, 2010, 6:10 pm |
While it's still fresh in my mind: Having the tutorial make me use the F1 key would have helped with retention of that info.
Also I was clueless about Alt-G until a friendly player tipped me off about that that. F2&3 would be pretty useful info for someone who dives into arena, I spent my first several matches blasting resigned cars. How to resign and exactly what that means to the gang would be a good one to focus a second of the brand new player's attention on as well, if it's in there I forgot it by the time I needed it. I may have been told some of these things, but was too overwhelmed to hang onto them. A timely reminder whenever they become important would be good. Perhaps *closeable* tip bubbles (the talking head actually blocked my target info during one tutorial mission and I couldn't grab and drag the window) as well as the option to turn the tips I have mastered off at some point during the experience. |
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sabin_davarious Posted Oct 7, 2010, 9:27 pm |
ok so i see there is a lot of work that people would like to be done in the means of tutorial videos i will be talking with sam about setting up some decent vids and a easy way for a new player to get to where they are posted i would love to take this list off of sams hands and work on it myself | ||
Juris Posted Oct 14, 2010, 10:33 pm |
An interactive tutorial would be better than watching a video. The current driving tutorial is great, but there's nothing like that for scouting, participating in leagues, designing vehicles, managing characters and what skills do, doing missions, etc. I had to figure that stuff out on my own recently and I can tell you after three failed missions its not easy. Its kinda harsh on newbies who don't start with good scouts and tend to get overwhelmed on a scouting mission. | ||
sabin_davarious Posted Nov 3, 2010, 3:06 am |
the point of the videos is to assist the new players out if they cant figure it out after having it explained to them as many times as they want then honestly they probably wont like the complexity of this game | ||
Triferus Posted Jan 16, 2011, 10:12 am |
Something on how to use Darkwind: Tactical would be nice. It took me a long time to figure out that you actually start it from the client and not from the web site, because it's listed under the "Events" on the web site. Just today I discovered I can use it (more or less) to try out car designs. I haven't found a way to set a side to be controlled by the AI though, so that greatly limits things.
Edit: I figured out that the driver and passengers aren't saved with the vehicle configuration in DW:T so even though I was adding pre-made designs, they didn't have anyone in them! After I added some people the AI became operational so that's cool. Edit 2: Meh... For some reason the AI vehicles keep running away! What's the deal? |