*sam* Posted May 7, 2009, 5:59 pm	We're putting together a new promotional movie of DW and I'm seeking recommendations about good gameplay content I can grab from a playback. Events that show off nice looking vehicles, good combats, excellent physics (*cough*) etc.. Event ID and (if possible) approx turn numbers where the good stuff happens, please
*Grograt* gary.r.horder@gmail.com Posted May 7, 2009, 6:08 pm	Or we can always 'set up' a film shoot in DW:T sam
Marrkos Posted May 7, 2009, 6:12 pm	Bah! I had a good one where my Symph got launched, rolled, and continued on, but it seems it aged out of the system. It was also nice because my characters had to bail and dash for the SS gates when the Symph was eventually totaled.
darthspanky Posted May 7, 2009, 8:17 pm	hehe ya can show my pvp fight with shark nice and short
Serephe Posted May 7, 2009, 8:58 pm	Heavy. Rockets.
*Ayjona* Posted May 7, 2009, 10:45 pm	Event P81566 features Rhalp jumping over one car while firing at another, during frames 130-134. Not quite sure it'd make good gameplay footage material, but it was indeed a nifty stunt.
ISHOULDCOCO Posted May 7, 2009, 10:47 pm	2 ped scouts Widerness 81566 and 81444 might be useful because they show peds doing well and show the scenery well - the enemie AI behaves well too. I am sure it will all be sped up real fast and cut very fast too - a'la action movies . The peds will look even nicer with bullets and dust getting kicked up around them the older ped models are stillnicer (imho) COCO
*JD_Basher* jd.basher@charter.net Posted May 8, 2009, 2:22 am	S107424 PvP event with me and Sereph... Not sure he would like this in the 'movie' but it was a fun one. He wanted to see how deadly my 4gat Apache was with snipers in the gunner seats. The event is a short one . JD
Mad Mike Posted May 8, 2009, 3:25 am	a mega scout would make a great promo
BWGunner Posted May 8, 2009, 5:02 am	S106928 Philyn and I were on our convoy to the new camp deep in the wastelands when we were jumped by 12 cars. We had a bus and 4 support cars. you can use my camera positions for a starting place. frame 3 - we come over the rise, but hold it there until they come after us. Heck, just follow my cameras, it's a wild escape ride filled with cool Phoenix skins and a real Mad Max style "one turns to face them all" moment including a pedestrian fleeing and being shot down. They proceed to disassemble the Apache and its occupants. The bus blows by doing 120 a couple times. 74 pan follow pickup 80 snap back pan follow apache 82-88 back to the death scene 90ish pull back to reveal Thelma and Louis finale I'm planning on writing it up in the Gazette
Flaming savage Posted May 8, 2009, 4:44 pm	The event where latte fire pweelgs buggy into bl of on ewhere he fire my buggy into bl.
4saken Posted May 8, 2009, 9:01 pm	awhile back, before we even had event playback, someone posted a playback video that had sound. i don't remember what software he used but it seems like it would be easier to do now. though i am not sure that due the turn-based nature this is such a good idea. it is important to show we have physics, tho, as opposed to an "i have X movement points left" kinda of tabletop thing.
Fealty Lost Posted May 8, 2009, 10:45 pm	S107522 My first venture out with a Lorry (my first) and jumped by Butane. Am actually making headway running...but really like the map for killing bad guys...so...Apaches swing around (2 in escort) and open up. Lorry goes a bit further...then swings back around...just in time to catch two bad guys (starting frame 48) trying to sneak up the hill and flank us. KAPOW! 1st ram kills both occupants. Lorry swings around while Apaches are laying down fire...and: KAPOW! 2nd ram slaughters/catches fire flanker crew #2
ISHOULDCOCO Posted May 9, 2009, 6:32 pm	Think Cinematically - Sam does not want 'in game context' Sheer brain-less eye candy is what is required Lots of 'Air' Expolsions Car showing good physics -no weirdness pref. shot low and close for that GTA feel Video is the intial 'hook' We don't need to explain turn-based concept there. COCO
BWGunner Posted May 9, 2009, 7:53 pm	Yeah, and as lame as mine sounds, it would make a great short movie. If handled cinema style, a couple fly-bys of the gangs initially, chase cameras as the fighting starts, a few key spots where you can keep the camera stationary and pan with the car as it goes by. I think for this to work we need to submit replays where we'ev already done the initial camera positions. The trick to that, I think, is that it only works if you start the replay, enable the playback cam, and don't touch the controls during playback or you mess up the shots. For one good 2 minute "short" of an encounter I imagine three recordings. 1 from the player's cameras, one shots as just flying round the fight, then a third focusing on a couple specific scenes. Time-code it in layers in Final Cut and you can just reveal one of the three cameras at key times and viola, a kickin vid. What I've never figured out is how to screen-cap from the client.
Marrkos Posted May 9, 2009, 7:58 pm	BWGunner said: What I've never figured out is how to screen-cap from the client. Do you mean: Ctrl+P, Cmd/Alt+Ctrl+P, and Cmd/Alt+P Or something else? Screenshot commands
Marrkos Posted May 9, 2009, 10:59 pm	*sam* said: Events that show off nice looking vehicles, good combats, excellent physics (*cough*) etc.. They are old (relatively speaking), and they don't have sound (you might be dubbing your own sound in though), but... Hot Rod Abuse is short and shows a flying Hot Rod. All Hallow's Eve Firetrucks has ... firetrucks ... and lots of mayhem. Fighting Uphill is a good 2v5 encounter. EDIT: And the various Rockets Are BAD! videos, because Rocket Chompers are fun to watch. Original Slow Slower
BWGunner Posted May 10, 2009, 2:47 am	Markkos, what did you use to capture video of the game client? I understand screen shots, but I wonder about getting the full video to an editable form.
Marrkos Posted May 10, 2009, 3:18 am	Well, I use the screenshot series and the application discussed here and here. But I know that some other folks have done movies using FRAPS (Win) and ScreenSnapz Pro (Mac). I specifically didn't want to capture as video because of the editing that would be needed. Each method has its pros/cons... Screenshots: Pros: very little (to no) editing work needed, shows the turn-based nature very well (IMO).  Cons: no sound, camera work can be jerky. Video Capture: Pros: captures everything (sound is nice).  Cons: heavy editing time required (usually)
*sam* Posted May 10, 2009, 12:12 pm	Here's the new movie (we actually made it for a competition that's we're entering...) - it's heavily based on the earlier one made in late 2006, of course, but with the more recent GUIs, wilderness, insects, peds etc. stuff added in. Darkwind: Youtube trailer May 2009 edit: please do keep the suggestions coming!, there's definitely more promotional movies worth making. I like the idea of making a movie that shows one specific combat in playback mode, with choreographed camera-work, as suggested.
*Grograt* gary.r.horder@gmail.com Posted May 10, 2009, 12:41 pm	nice stuff sam, i think one of the dogfighter scouts we occasionally get together would make for good game play loads of jumps, up close action, not just your gun line apachee scout.
Marrkos Posted May 10, 2009, 4:48 pm	Very cool. It's fun to see how the interface changed over time (especially noticeable with the information bubbles). I also got a kick out of the ped encounter where 1 guy sprints out of frame with a bug on his tail, and his partner is left alone to get swarmed. How's it go? I don't have to be faster than the bear, I just have to be faster than you.
Lord Foul Posted May 11, 2009, 7:43 am	These few seconds of footage are just to damn cool not to consider. Event 108313 Turns 18-20 - The best unplanned death from a crash I've seen in a very long time, even the death text is something I rarely see. Turns 44-45. Not as cool as the first but still pretty cool to see that sometimes you just don't have enough time to escape from a burning car.
Jaguar Posted May 11, 2009, 10:13 am	We had a scout with a really nice set of turns where one car gets hit so much it flips over the car next to it while both are moving. Earlier too someone used an ATG to knock a subcompact off a hilltop. S108324 - Turn 39 to 44, give or take. The Evan Enforcer and Desert Siren left of the firing line.
BigStick Posted May 11, 2009, 11:06 am	trailer looks good .. especially like the music!
Jaguar Posted May 13, 2009, 2:02 am	Event ID 53762 During the end of lap one/start of lap two, Hellion quits out... but his car is in the crossroads. Hilarity ensues as the NPCs hit the straight away...
Jaguar Posted May 13, 2009, 11:53 am	Had some pretty specatular scouts to day. Took some screencaps if Sam still needs them and have some ideas for some stunts folks could try in tactical to make for good shots.
*Urban Decay* Posted May 14, 2009, 4:35 am	Seriously Jaguar, how do you keep finding so much interesting footage. At least I was there for that really nice sudden flip. ^_^
Serephe Posted May 14, 2009, 5:01 am	Stunts in Tactical? Weak. I'll do them for real.
Jaguar Posted May 14, 2009, 6:18 am	Urban Decay said: Seriously Jaguar, how do you keep finding so much interesting footage. At least I was there for that really nice sudden flip. ^_^ It's a talent I guess.
Serephe Posted May 14, 2009, 7:24 am	event ID 53896 Around turn 30, one of the little jeeps somehow manages to get catapulted into the air, crashing heavily on his roof.
Jaguar Posted May 14, 2009, 7:58 am	S109203 JD is trying out out run a Mantis. It's not working so he goes off road. The results are... action movie worthy.
*sam* Posted May 14, 2009, 11:40 pm	Here's a link to the explanatory video made by Olena and JD Basher in the last two days: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IMPNHWlVkc Thanks guys! great work.. This was primarily for a competition entry (www.indiecade.com) but I'll put it on the website too. I'd like to do so short, focused tutorials this way..
Marrkos Posted May 15, 2009, 12:00 am	Very cool!  At the risk of seeing the glass half-empty, however, I think JD said 'salons' when he meant to say 'sedans', when talking about the chassis available (5:44ish). A very minor glitch in a really excellent promo. It's kinda fun to see how much the interface has changed over the ... years. (which is kinda scary to say out loud) Well done, to all involved!
*JD_Basher* jd.basher@charter.net Posted May 15, 2009, 12:22 am	I DID say Salons... The script said Saloons and I thought that was wrong.... You're right ..I should have said sedans. It was a "hurry up" kind of thing so a few mistakes are inevitable! Thanks for the good word Marrkos! gettingfamousJD
*sam* Posted May 15, 2009, 12:36 am	Quote: I DID say Salons... Yeah, I lost the jist of what you were on about in that bit JD, I figured it was some cryptic reference to a mutant nail-bar or something
*JD_Basher* jd.basher@charter.net Posted May 15, 2009, 12:52 am	It is in some info page HERE Sam!... Spelled Saloons. I always wondered about that! So I interpreted it as "Salons". hehehe I just figured, "He's the professor, he MUST be right!" I can re-record it like right NOW if a fix can be made! englishgeniusJD
*sam* Posted May 15, 2009, 12:55 am	I think Saloons is probably the Euro equivalent to Sedans... or similar anyway. It's not a problem JD, it's barely noticeeable. We can change it if you'd prefer. I do however reserve the right to bring it up to rib you mercilessly from time to time .
*JD_Basher* jd.basher@charter.net Posted May 15, 2009, 1:02 am	*sam* said: I think Saloons is probably the Euro equivalent to Sedans... or similar anyway. It's not a problem JD, it's barely noticeeable. We can change it if you'd prefer. I do however reserve the right to bring it up to rib you mercilessly from time to time .  You would too! Nah... If you don't find fault with it and are happy with it, submit it. Europeans will know exactly what I said... The Americans on the other hand will go "Huh?.... Did he just say Salons?... like where the wife gets her hair cut?" highandtightcutJD
*JD_Basher* jd.basher@charter.net Posted May 15, 2009, 1:11 am	I see..So one mistake and "the check is NOT in the mail!" AND you get to rib me at your convenience! povertystrickenJD
*Ninesticks* Posted May 15, 2009, 1:12 am	Nice work, felt it gave a great feel for the game and the community.
*Grograt* gary.r.horder@gmail.com Posted May 15, 2009, 9:42 am	Kudos JD though could you please stop wittering about the sodding re loads please
Jaguar Posted May 15, 2009, 10:13 am	S109458 - Turn 101. You get to see a Landrunner do a barrelroll successfully. Yes, an SUV pops into the air, spins in the air, lands on it's feet and keeps going.
Jaguar Posted May 18, 2009, 1:20 am	54312 Eaton with 7L. It goes well for the first lap, barring me and Gear flying a little and taking some damage. I fall back into around 12th while Chain and the ohers move a head to first. But then Chain KOs himself into a wall and then lands smack dab into the track... where -everyone- following almost or runs right into him. The survivors manage to limp across the finish line
Dr Mathias Posted May 18, 2009, 4:03 am	S110573 Unarmed Phoenix running from a Sabre Dogs Scorpion. I bet Jessica's little heart was pounding when 'Rocket Transfer' rolled onto its roof.
*JD_Basher* jd.basher@charter.net Posted May 18, 2009, 4:25 am	Jaguar said: 54312 Eaton with 7L. It goes well for the first lap, barring me and Gear flying a little and taking some damage. I fall back into around 12th while Chain and the ohers move a head to first. But then Chain KOs himself into a wall and then lands smack dab into the track... where -everyone- following almost or runs right into him. The survivors manage to limp across the finish line YES!!...That was a fun race!...... I gained a spot 2 car lengths from the finish! LearnedtoflyJD
Jaguar Posted May 18, 2009, 8:36 am	JD_Basher said: Jaguar said: 54312 Eaton with 7L. It goes well for the first lap, barring me and Gear flying a little and taking some damage. I fall back into around 12th while Chain and the ohers move a head to first. But then Chain KOs himself into a wall and then lands smack dab into the track... where -everyone- following almost or runs right into him. The survivors manage to limp across the finish line YES!!...That was a fun race!...... I gained a spot 2 car lengths from the finish! LearnedtoflyJD No kidding. I spent the entire second lap and the end of the first laughing my butt off.
Jaguar Posted May 20, 2009, 7:45 am	54533 Turn 27 for the next couple of turns or so, watch car 11. It drives on two wheels back and forth.
Jaguar Posted May 27, 2009, 6:33 am	55577 Start at turn 15 and watch Collision Force's car.
*Speedealer* Posted May 28, 2009, 7:52 pm	Gateway track. Check out my line in lap 1 54893
simonmaxhill Posted Jun 2, 2009, 7:15 pm	Event: S115043 Start at about turn 25 for a demonstration of how trucking can be very ugly in Firelight. Good variety of dropped, ballistic, direct weapons and of course, ramming. There's even some rifle fire later on.
*sam* Posted Jun 2, 2009, 7:52 pm	Thanks everyone for continuing to post in here; I have been grabbing various bits for the next gameplay movies.