*sam* Posted Aug 19, 2020, 10:16 am	I have added a password to the Morgan Militia squad, to be set by the Mayor. Why? - there have been recent team-killing style attacks: players joining and then attacking the same team. - this is not a problem generally (for normal squads), and it's a good thing to not over-sanitise the game. Backstabbing and general underhand stuff is just fine. - however, normal squads let you set a password, so you can decide who's in them. - the Morgan militia needs to be the same On a related note: - we could have a Mayor of other towns too? Perhaps the Mayor is the camp owner who controls the town's tile? - would this be of interest, or would it be onerous on a player who wasn't interested in doing that ?
Madbooth Posted Aug 19, 2020, 11:21 am	Sam this a joke? I been attacked by krakhead on morgan defence basicly under x mans command...(that was ok to do) (nothing needed changing) So why does it matter that there was a failed attempt to kill x man?....(is he special?) Its not a problem u say on ur 2nd point as to say ashley darth your ok to kill but anyone else no. How ever normal squad let you set a password (Yer but sam this isnt a normal squad its a NPC squad for a town defence) The morgan miltia need to be the same? ?????? why because x man does not like them on his side in the defences? because he might have to possibly change his playing style? On a related note . - Ashley Feels like this is a massive joke. as darth killed him in a SS defence not even a month ago and nothing was changed...Darth and me add in 2 milita cars to a morgan defence and now we need a password to join the morgan milita now. SO basicly sam what ur asking here is shall we ban darth and Madbooth from town defences????? BECAUSE THATS WHAT ITS GONNA TURN INTO.....SAM whats the next rule change? to make ur fav players a little safer.
Jaqen Hagar Posted Aug 19, 2020, 11:37 am	Quote: Why? You woke up to complaint pm's or emails after the morgan defence. Quote: - there have been recent team-killing style attacks: players joining and then attacking the same team. You've confirmed this was fine before, what changed other than names involved? Quote: >- this is not a problem generally (for normal squads), and it's a good thing to not over-sanitise the game. Backstabbing and general underhand stuff is just fine. It feels like this is only true dependent on who and where, given past statements on the topic and changes made after the fact to discourage or outright remove the possibility. Quote: - however, normal squads let you set a password, so you can decide who's in them. - the Morgan militia needs to be the same I've never seen or had to enter a password on a militia event, which other ones already had this, will this be replicated across all towns? Quote: On a related note: - we could have a Mayor of other towns too? Perhaps the Mayor is the camp owner who controls the town's tile? - would this be of interest, or would it be onerous on a player who wasn't interested in doing that ? Will mayors of other towns get to control those town militias too?
JuJu Crow Posted Aug 19, 2020, 12:07 pm	It feels like a number of players have forgotten why Morgan was created - read the "Morgan Special Rules" thread in Game Announcements. But basically it was so that players would co-operate in the defences (PVE) for some extra training bonuses. I would guess by introducing the PW it means the mayor can control who is in the defence and ensure that everyone works together. @Madbooth - I don't know the backstory on why krakhead attacked you, that is something you would need to take up with him certainly it's something that shouldn't be happening on Morgan defences. And as Sam says it's fine elsewhere.
Madbooth Posted Aug 19, 2020, 12:07 pm	*sits waiting for secret club members to start making sarcastic comments about how fair this new rule is"
Madbooth Posted Aug 19, 2020, 12:08 pm	BOOM! ON POINT posted both in the same seconds...look above already secret club on it...
Madbooth Posted Aug 19, 2020, 12:11 pm	Ive been staight up told before if i join a morgan defence i was to be killed on sight.. LOL but rules need changing now....x mans gaming experiance is being effected...
Jaqen Hagar Posted Aug 19, 2020, 12:12 pm	JuJu Crow said: But basically it was so that players would co-operate in the defences (PVE) for some extra training bonuses. I would guess by introducing the PW it means the mayor can control who is in the defence and ensure that everyone works together. That completely flies in the face of the fact x man has attacked members of the defence before. What changed beyond the name being targeted?
JuJu Crow Posted Aug 19, 2020, 12:26 pm	As I said I don't know the back story, if players have been attacking other players in Morgan defences then that is totally against the whole point of what is trying to be achieved with them. IE Players working together to win the defences and get the training bonuses. Which I was trying to put across in my post.
*sam* Posted Aug 19, 2020, 12:34 pm	Jaqen Hagar said: Quote: - there have been recent team-killing style attacks: players joining and then attacking the same team. You've confirmed this was fine before, what changed other than names involved? Nothing changed at all. It's still fine. But it doesn't make sense that the squad owner can't control who's in the squad. Jaqen Hagar said: Quote: >- this is not a problem generally (for normal squads), and it's a good thing to not over-sanitise the game. Backstabbing and general underhand stuff is just fine. It feels like this is only true dependent on who and where, given past statements on the topic and changes made after the fact to discourage or outright remove the possibility. I'm not sure what other changes you're referring to - can you elaborate? Jaqen Hagar said: Quote: - however, normal squads let you set a password, so you can decide who's in them. - the Morgan militia needs to be the same I've never seen or had to enter a password on a militia event, which other ones already had this, will this be replicated across all towns? None of the town defence events have had a password before. Like I said, this is an anomaly since in the rest of the game (i.e. normal squads) the squad owner can set a password. If we move forward with mayors for each town, then yes it would make sense to have passwords on these too. Jaqen Hagar said: Quote: On a related note: - we could have a Mayor of other towns too? Perhaps the Mayor is the camp owner who controls the town's tile? - would this be of interest, or would it be onerous on a player who wasn't interested in doing that ? Will mayors of other towns get to control those town militias too? Exactly, yes.
Effy Posted Aug 19, 2020, 2:01 pm	(I have absolutely no idea about how Morgan major is appointed) I wouldn't go for PvP camp owner as major, as he may not even care about the town. Nor i would go for "fame" as fame doesn't mean you are "liked" in the city. I would go for the most liked "active" gang that has the city as Home town at year's end (would be nicer making an average across the period but it will probably mean more work for the development)(and maybe not in vacation mode)(And i would keep "likedness" index hidden so no one can really tell or count how many extra scouts he may need to get the appointment).
Madbooth Posted Aug 19, 2020, 2:06 pm	if you want the mayor to care about the camp you make it so if he doesnt do a defence during the week he doesnt get the resorces from it or the bonus it gives thats all. he would soon care about it then or hand it over to someone who did care about it.
*Joskney* Posted Aug 19, 2020, 3:40 pm	*sam* said: I have added a password to the Morgan Militia squad, to be set by the Mayor. Why?  - there have been recent team-killing style attacks: players joining and then attacking the same team. - this is not a problem generally (for normal squads), and it's a good thing to not over-sanitise the game. Backstabbing and general underhand stuff is just fine. - however, normal squads let you set a password, so you can decide who's in them. - the Morgan militia needs to be the same On a related note: - we could have a Mayor of other towns too? Perhaps the Mayor is the camp owner who controls the town's tile? - would this be of interest, or would it be onerous on a player who wasn't interested in doing that ? +1 on the first part, though not for the reasons Madbooth is upset about.  And  FOR years there have been new players or player who would join the defense, with no characters or cars in Morgan.  While other towns players can join either attackers or defenders, Morgan can only have defenders. Game would default to add NPC Militia extra car, each adds 3-5 cars to the pirate squad.  Having the password will keep these out. EDIT-adding a password is probably easier than removing the code that adds cars to the defense. Second part, I think Mayor of other towns could be fun.  I was going to suggest something like Mad's, that if the pirates win you 'lose' the resources for the week.  AS a time saver to the camp owner, I would suggest that they don't have to do the defense themself, just someone for their camp.  'I hired mercenaries to keep us safe, long live the mayor'.  Since pirate attacks on every town  (except Morgan) is random, that means the mayor doesn't always have a weekly defense to worry about.
darthspanky Posted Aug 19, 2020, 4:34 pm	why am i not surprized, sams golden boy xmn wsnts it chnged so sam changes it lol, he been myor since morgans founding, time for this corruption to end imo, now poor xman and his merry bang of killers who are fine to red in coe get special protection, so when we find another unique way to kill them that will be nerfed as well, tuff #### imo this shouldnt be changed becausse them poor whiner could be attcked, your bias is showing sam, now letss just let him be mayor of morgan forever, not everyone plays the cuddly cuddly game heck ive sseen besst prize in the gme won on coe where they dont even shoot each other, and you change nothing about that total bs imo. id like to join morgan defences can i get the password?
Madbooth Posted Aug 19, 2020, 5:15 pm	no darth we got to give them a couple more months to super cap out there ganger's then there is a possible chance we might get to fight them as pirates... but other than that its secret password club.
Madbooth Posted Aug 19, 2020, 5:18 pm	they wasnt even being attacked darth this is about npc cars being added to there defence LOL they didnt like the team mates they got...so they needed a password on it too keep them "worthless NPC cars out" if we had turned up been shot to bits and lost 4 more gangers it would of been happy days but sadly we was adding WORTHLESS NPC CARS to the defence and that is just a massive NO NO because that's called picking on them giving them a extra car to play with.
darthspanky Posted Aug 19, 2020, 6:26 pm	i hope new players see the corruption from the developers themselves, dont play ebil piwtes or your gameplay will be nerfed so those at the top can continue to get all the good gear teaming up together its the only way they can keep thier status quo. total carp and it starts at the top.