*Brunwulf* Posted Aug 2, 2016, 9:53 am	I sat staring at the screen for 15 minutes on Sunday afternoon waiting for my SCL opponent to turn up. He didn't, but I thought- oh well- I was looking forward to that all afternoon but hey- at least it's easy points! When I checked the league- he had gained a point from it!!!!!! That point could be crucial come the end of the season. Why do heck you get a point for not showing up and inconveniencing another player?????? Don't seem right to me.
*Brunwulf* Posted Aug 2, 2016, 10:06 am	ADDITIONAL: I did speak to the player later, and he told me that he couldn't make it and forgot about it- which is fair enough- we all have other things to do in life other than DW (more's the pity) AND- we was fined $42,000 for the no show. But even so- he shouldn't get a point from it surely? The last thing this game needs is to be rewarding ppl for NOT playing. The exact opposite is what's needed in a big way now!
DirkNotSoGently Posted Aug 2, 2016, 10:14 am	I agree The only way to get zero points is to not even set a squad - I can set a junker with a noob in it and score a point and have to pay a 'bounty' Definitely open to exploitation (NOT suggesting that's what happened in this case tho)
JoniBoy Posted Aug 2, 2016, 1:37 pm	Agree +1 Just in case someone is counting, even though I doubt it.
*The X Man* Posted Aug 2, 2016, 5:48 pm	DirkNotSoGently said: I agree The only way to get zero points is to not even set a squad - I can set a junker with a noob in it and score a point and have to pay a 'bounty' Definitely open to exploitation (NOT suggesting that's what happened in this case tho) Paying a bounty is one thing to offset a no-show. But most players have the money to afford these bounties. The other deterrent is the fame hit at your camp. Sometimes this is a big factor why you should always show up for your matches or don't set a squad. So there are things set in place to balance. Whether or not you guys feel this an equal or fair trade-off can be put up for debate.
*Brunwulf* Posted Aug 2, 2016, 6:06 pm	Fair enough X- but leagues are won and lost on points in the end. You shouldn't score points for not taking part- simple as that in my opinion.
DirkNotSoGently Posted Aug 2, 2016, 6:28 pm	... and fame can be recovered by a couple of camp scouting events - which we would likely do anyway
*The X Man* Posted Aug 3, 2016, 6:23 am	DirkNotSoGently said: ... and fame can be recovered by a couple of camp scouting events - which we would likely do anyway True, but now you have to scout to recover the fame loss. Also, the MR and Production boosts take a hit too and those cannot be brought back up by scouting. (This affects the PVP Open Camps).
*The X Man* Posted Aug 3, 2016, 6:29 am	*Brunwulf* said: Fair enough X- but leagues are won and lost on points in the end. You shouldn't score points for not taking part- simple as that in my opinion. I am not debating against your point. I do agree with you on it. Just making sure everyone is aware of what happens when a player/team no-shows. * Leagues are won by winning
*Brunwulf* Posted Aug 3, 2016, 6:45 am	*The X Man* said: *Brunwulf* said: Fair enough X- but leagues are won and lost on points in the end. You shouldn't score points for not taking part- simple as that in my opinion. I am not debating against your point. I do agree with you on it. Just making sure everyone is aware of what happens when a player/team no-shows. * Leagues are won by winning  Actually, most Football (Soccer to the heathens) leagues are won by drawing more than others lose. Leicester City gloriously proved this just a few weeks ago :-)
DirkNotSoGently Posted Aug 3, 2016, 7:06 am	Quote: Leicester City ingloriously proved this just a few weeks ago :-) Fixed that for you
*Brunwulf* Posted Aug 3, 2016, 7:11 am	DirkNotSoGently said: Quote: Leicester City ingloriously proved this just a few weeks ago :-) Fixed that for you  How very dare you Dirk!  (We still did it tho!  )
*The X Man* Posted Aug 3, 2016, 7:38 am	*Brunwulf* said: *The X Man* said: *Brunwulf* said: Fair enough X- but leagues are won and lost on points in the end. You shouldn't score points for not taking part- simple as that in my opinion. I am not debating against your point. I do agree with you on it. Just making sure everyone is aware of what happens when a player/team no-shows. * Leagues are won by winning  Actually, most Football (Soccer to the heathens) leagues are won by drawing more than others lose. Leicester City gloriously proved this just a few weeks ago :-) But both teams showed up to play.