Taking the ALLEYS on
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*Brunwulf* Posted Mar 13, 2013, 8:06 am |
Before this season started there were lots of players who were conspiring to try to break the Alleys CoE stranglehold.
Where are they all now? I turn up every sunday night, and get whacked within 10 turns. I'm sure the Alleys laugh their asses off at my pathetic efforts in the late CoE races - but I don't care- at least I am trying to see it through. Where is everyone else who were talking so tough a few weeks back? |
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*goat starer* Posted Mar 13, 2013, 9:03 am |
COE drop off... lots of people have nobody and nothing in southern towns. Its a hassle moving stuff around when you are really just trying to play the main bit of the game.
personally i don't find town events either enjoyable or credible so I'm quite happy for the Alley to have a stranglehold on the dull bits... it makes a bunch of power gamers very happy... it doesn't make me very unhappy... these people may have awful tedious lives with nothing to be proud of so I say let them have their leagues and don't sweat the small stuff. |
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*Boonwolf* Posted Mar 13, 2013, 9:05 am |
Allys have been running the days from what i have noticed.
I would make every race if this thing called work didnt mess it up. Rather like taking Good cars out and watching them smoke. As the JS 5s hit 100mph in 5 turns in ther lil pop can no one can hit. |
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Blackwill Posted Mar 13, 2013, 3:29 pm |
It seems that it's hard to pin down which series of events the Alley boys are going to run (early or late). The Robin Hood crew doesn't have enough members to split up and run both series, and even if they did, it would be a Juan-level time sink.
Apparently, the Alley crew started off running the early races, but when they encountered stiff opposition, they switched to the later races. Or, maybe those races are simply at a better time for them. Who knows? As for myself, I have been in the process of moving for the past month or so, and have been unable to attend any of the events (no active computer). If the Alley gang is consistently running the later races, perhaps the RH crew should switch to those races. Then, of course, there is the same issue if the Alley then switches to the early ones.. |
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Joel Autobaun Posted Mar 13, 2013, 3:34 pm |
I do it because its been the only true pvp available for 2 real years. Been a great season....much hate. |
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*Longo* Posted Mar 13, 2013, 10:00 pm |
Too much talking, not enough killin. 
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MadDoggy Posted Mar 13, 2013, 10:20 pm |
"All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near." ~Sun Tzu |
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musashi_san Posted Mar 13, 2013, 10:45 pm |
+1000
"War is intellect" - Ikurei Conphas |
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23Baker27 Posted Mar 13, 2013, 11:25 pm |
I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain. -Bene Gesserit "Litany against Fear" |
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Necrotech Posted Mar 14, 2013, 12:03 am |
Peace through Power!
~Kane~ |
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*Splash* Posted Mar 14, 2013, 12:06 am |
Sez the guy with over 5,000 posts... 
As for me, I dropped out of the leauges when a crew of my best gangers got a leg blown off, and I never even made contact with one of 20 RL rounds I fired at the enemy. If I don't have a chance of winning, it's pretty stupid to keep playing and letting people destroy me. "All pain, no gain" isn't my idea of a good time, and it's certainly not what I want from a game that is supposed to be a fun pastime to kick back with... |
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*Brunwulf* Posted Mar 14, 2013, 12:16 am |
"Let's 'ave a right old tear up" - Danny Dyer 'The football factory' |
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*Brunwulf* Posted Mar 14, 2013, 12:40 am |
Blimey! - so much knowledge of military philosophy in here- maybe we should all meet up and take over the world?! Then again..... what would we all be able to agree on? |
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Necrotech Posted Mar 14, 2013, 1:27 am |
We all like Dark Wind for various reasons ?
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Serephe Posted Mar 14, 2013, 2:05 am |
Don't worry. We'll split the world into PvP and non-PvP areas. | ||||||
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Blackwill Posted Mar 14, 2013, 2:12 am |
"If it moves, kill it.
If it doesn't move, kick it until it moves and THEN kill it." =Blackwill= |
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musashi_san Posted Apr 2, 2013, 11:27 pm |
took a while for me to remember and get back to it, but i cannot believe that in this group this reference went uncommented on. can't be that no-one read those, right? god i hope not. |
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Necrotech Posted Apr 2, 2013, 11:43 pm |
Not many here has read "The Darkness that Comes Before" | ||||||
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RudeReality Posted Apr 2, 2013, 11:55 pm |
Don't know whether to kill it or f**k it... first. | ||||||
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musashi_san Posted Apr 3, 2013, 1:57 am |
Apparently not. Surprised by that, given the demographic and all the references to other high brow stuff, like LF or goats gang name. Oh well. You all should by the way. |
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RudeReality Posted Apr 3, 2013, 2:48 am |
So he tried to soften the other’s heart, and Menelaus, it is true, was about to send him off with a squire to the swift Achaean ships, when Agamemnon arrived at the run, calling out: ‘Dear Menelaus, why such compassion? Were these Trojans kind to you back home? Let none escape death at our hands, not even the child in the womb; let not a one survive, let all Ilium die: leave none behind as witnesses to mourn.’
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musashi_san Posted Apr 3, 2013, 4:14 am |
nice one, the classics never get old. actually read that in the original latin believe it or not. | ||||||
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RudeReality Posted Apr 3, 2013, 4:43 am |
Same, one on one with teacher, read a section, discussed, for a semester. One of those great education experiences. | ||||||
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Necrotech Posted Apr 3, 2013, 5:18 am |
Well... in such august company, I know now that I am not completely surrounded by philistines. (The literary ones, not the ones where 2nd century Romans called the area populace to piss off the Judaic. Yes Historical note: Palestine was a slang and VERY derogatory term, not a people) | ||||||
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*StCrispin* ce.services.mh@gmail.com Posted Apr 3, 2013, 10:48 pm |
Their own "Allies" or at least one in particular, began asking everyone what they were brining to CoE (to co-ordinate the efforts to better fight the Alley) and they brought something bigger so he could kill them (his allies, not the Alley, who stopped showing up) I told him after the 3rd or 4th time he decided toleave the main course to hunt me down and kill me, instead of finishing the race and letting me do the same but with less points, that I was done. The Alley wasnt showing up and all that was happening is that this one person was breaking all of my CoE cars instead of just winning. Our alliance went in with no clear plan and like Gerbils with ADHD the bad seeds preyed on their friends for nothing more than a need to kill someone and break stuff. I even told him the Alley was laughing at us. |
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Necrotech Posted Apr 4, 2013, 12:14 am |
I wouldn't say we were laughing.... to be honest.. after a while... we just stopped caring.
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Joel Autobaun Posted Apr 4, 2013, 4:15 am |
Let's not make up stories about why the "robinhoods" or whatever, dropped off a bit, it's tough to grind out these battles the whole COE season. You guys were doing good until the races down south (another endurance factor). | ||||||
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23Baker27 Posted Apr 4, 2013, 6:01 am |
That was the biggest thing for me, I wasn't prepared for some of the southern towns. I'm hoping next season to at least have a few cars set-up and ready to go, but maintaining cars and gangers in all the locations really is a chore. On the other hand, the races themselves really are a lot of fun. Glad I ran the one's that I did. |
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*Longo* Posted Apr 4, 2013, 8:46 pm |
Your a fun dude Baker. Always look forward to you in a COE. I mean this in a nice way. |
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23Baker27 Posted Apr 4, 2013, 9:00 pm |
I think you mean you're always looking backwards at me in COE, not sure I ever actually got in front of you. 
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Necrotech Posted Apr 4, 2013, 11:16 pm |
Oh no... you did get in front of us on occasion, however... that's generally where we turned the heavy guns at the time. | ||||||
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*Brunwulf* Posted Apr 4, 2013, 11:43 pm |
I got some things for you all next season. You will probably all blow the #### out of me- but it's gonna be a lot of fun tryin! Tally Ho- see ya'll out there! 
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*Rezeak* reecestensel@hotmail.co.uk Posted Apr 4, 2013, 11:48 pm |
I wants to get shooted at too 
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*Bastille* Posted Apr 5, 2013, 3:18 am |
Getting pummeled by Velcro, More fun than polishing your boots. Be even more fun if he could shoot straight and knew how to watch his LOS. 
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Jose Bagg Posted Apr 5, 2013, 9:07 pm |
SCL IV,final week, wish granted. |
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musashi_san Posted Apr 5, 2013, 9:15 pm |
i get him first.... | ||||||
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*Rezeak* reecestensel@hotmail.co.uk Posted Apr 5, 2013, 10:53 pm |
Make sure you bring something shiny, I like shiny things.
You can truce outta these things, right? |
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*Bobski* Posted Apr 8, 2013, 2:42 am |
They'll rape us to death, eat on our flesh then sew our skin into their clothes and if we're real lucky they'll do it in that order | ||||||
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Necrotech Posted Apr 8, 2013, 2:55 am |
Jane? That you ? | ||||||
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Alec Burke Posted Apr 8, 2013, 6:29 am |
Who the hell is Jane? What are you, some illiterate heathen who can't spell a man's name correctly? And no, it's Zoe. 
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Necrotech Posted Apr 8, 2013, 8:47 pm |
Jayne Cobb couldn't spell his name right either... much less spell I imagine.
...Goin' on a year now I ain't had nothin' twixt my nethers weren't run on batteries! Oh, God! I can't know that! I could stand to hear a little more. |
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Jose Bagg Posted Apr 10, 2013, 5:02 am |
[singing] Jayyynnnnn! The man they call Jaaaayyynnn [/singing] |
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musashi_san Posted Apr 10, 2013, 5:33 am |
that song is *exactly* what i was thinking. that getting cancelled is one of the great tragedies of this century, and, yeah, that episode rocks. never will get jayne out of my head.... | ||||||
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BrassFactory Posted Apr 11, 2013, 4:44 am |
Shiny | ||||||
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Skidmark Posted Jul 6, 2014, 4:36 am |
And.... bump |
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Necrotech Posted Jul 6, 2014, 10:29 am |
Really Dude ? What is with the forum trolling? Here's one Hey Marshalls / Sam Why is it perfectly acceptable for for this above noted gang to say "Go f**k your mother" in Russian as part of his main gang / user page ? |
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*Snipe* Posted Jul 6, 2014, 10:54 am |
Well - for one you are assuming we all speak Russian. And I even live around a bunch of Russians and it all sounds like gooble-de-gook to me.
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*StCrispin* ce.services.mh@gmail.com Posted Jul 6, 2014, 10:57 am |
probably for the same reason someone can name their gang "Go Fk Yourself" in English
Plus Bing and Google both say "òâîþ ìàòü" is Babylonian but one translated it to "Be Wary" and the other said it meant "I have been Unfaithful" I studied a little Russian and the only curse word I know is "Fk You" which in English (Phonetically) is "Yob Vos" which in Cyrillic has none of those letters with crap dangling over them |
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*Snipe* Posted Jul 6, 2014, 11:10 am |
And - anyways, you guys should be focusing more on playing and less on digging around in each others underwear drawers. | ||||||
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*Brunwulf* Posted Jul 6, 2014, 1:15 pm |
LOL- very well said!!!!! |
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*Brunwulf* Posted Jul 6, 2014, 1:22 pm |
I have had a couple of messages about this mornings CoE2 event- so I wanted to put my input in first.
Of course I'm not happy about losing a 100+ gunner and a 5LV8 Moray to ridiculous PSI Jedi mind powers..... However, CoE2 is no holds barred, no rules, Deathrace. We all should know that before entering. To Longo, I say- well done. What you did to me and Wolf was TOTALLY legal, and TOTALLY within the rules of the the event- so I guess I have to say- good win to you Longo- congrats- well done (sincerely) To everyone else, I say: IF YOU DON'T LIKE HOW THE ALLEYS PLAY- DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!!! I know there are players who try week in, week out, but there are lots of forum warriors who don't even turn up in CoE events to try and make a difference, myself included- but now I will try! |
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*SmokeyKilla* Posted Jul 6, 2014, 1:38 pm |
Totally agree with ya .......was a good game I have never seen a pyro PSI ganger used before..........and now i dont want to see one ever again
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*Brunwulf* Posted Jul 6, 2014, 1:40 pm |
LOL- me either- not against me anyway!!!
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Skidmark Posted Jul 6, 2014, 4:41 pm |
Dry your eyes, little one. Dry your eyes. Anyway, someone had suggested that instead of posting complaints about the Alley's behavior, it would be a better investment of my time to simply enter these town events and fight them. Let's take a look at the overall effectiveness of the Robin Hoods' attempts to do this. Where are they now? How many have drifted away to go play other games? How many were driven off by Alley gank squads? How many bystanders got chewed up? What was accomplished? I can smell "pointless" a mile away. I don't have to stick my hand into the fire to know that it's hot. This game still offers fun and challenging PvE opportunities. There is a whole lot of sandbox left. Even the PvP is fun as long as you don't have to deal with players like Joel sneaking in Defensive Driver 8 and 9 drivers into the lower divisions of the SCL. And those matches I can simply opt out of. Instead, I choose to play against the more interesting players that don't feel the urge to game the system like that. |
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*Brunwulf* Posted Jul 6, 2014, 5:14 pm |
SKIDMARK - I don't know where you're coming from?
If you watch this mornings CoE2 you will see that several players DID try to take out Longo. (Not me I hasten to add- I did just go for for the race win today) I don't get why you forum moan about them, but don't actively participate to 'have a go' against them? |
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Necrotech Posted Jul 6, 2014, 5:29 pm |
Two words... Cowardice Fear Ultimately, he will continue to do this nonsense, but it doesn't not equal a hill of beans, hell even a single one. Out there.... is where it matters... the wilds, the tracks, the arenas... Brun, K1500, Snipe, X, Flame, Q, Shadow... You have my respect, begrudgingly at times, but you do have it. You put the beef, where it belongs and we have a grand old time at it. My hat is off to you. To other detractors who chose to hide and snipe from the forums... Grow a pair. |
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*Brunwulf* Posted Jul 6, 2014, 7:11 pm |
That's my point Necro- we do "have a grand old time at it"!
God knows how much money and gangers the Alleys have cost me over the past couple of years- so when I did Necro last sunday, and got 'well done' messages from several players, it was one of the sweetest moments of my gaming life, (and I know I will pay dearly for it one day!) I once beat Joel in a town league race, and was smiling about it all day long! For us lil guys, there will be many more losses than victories- but that's what makes the victories taste even sweeter! This is a game, it's supposed to be fun- not depressing and stressfull- we have jobs and wives for that! I say to everyone out there- if you want to change things, then HAVE A GO! If you don't want to put your money where your mouth is- then shut up. |
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Necrotech Posted Jul 6, 2014, 8:14 pm |
Amen |
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*K1500* Posted Jul 6, 2014, 8:20 pm |
Yeah I can handle loosing my legendary BPU, 5LV8 and weapons. Losing my SNP5 and other good gunner (150+ in a couple of skills) was painful having no chance to escape (instant explode, no chance to bail out). Obviously in hind sight I should have stayed back, found high ground and kept shooting. Yes I'm bitter about the loss but it was all within the rules of the match as clearly laid out. Not like I was ganged up on even (which isn't cheating or exploiting - it's called collusion). K [Though I will say I'm no fan of Psi powers at all - that is, however, a separate issue.] |
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*Snipe* Posted Jul 6, 2014, 8:52 pm |
#1 The Alley members fight like a bunch of girls on steroids #2 I hear more crap outta your mouth out of game than I ever see in game #3 There is no winning a fight with the Alley - go up against the best players with the best gangers/equip, for what? A level playing field when they are gone? waste of time #4 Some people will fight a losing fight - no matter the odds. And I have fun fighting it, I could NEVER enjoy playing the way that you guys do. So - ultimately, it is only as impossible to fight the Alley as they make it. My issue, why the need to control all the high end prizes and league winnings when you are pretty much the only one with that equipment. Then when people give you a real fight - you all hide behind psionics. I would imagine that style of play is totally boring, but to each his own. I don't have the time to fight the system anymore - enjoy the Alley circle-jerk if you must. Bring the pain when you see me, if I hurt your poor fragile egos. Trash the RH effort all you like - but we were left with little options and with very little resources. If you wanted a better battle, you shoulda let it become one. |
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*Boonwolf* Posted Jul 6, 2014, 9:02 pm |
Don't let him get you snipe just another troll fighting with words rather than guns. and don't even give a rats arse hat what side he picks the fight with just in sighting flame war again.
Some of my best battles were losses but honor was mine! |
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*StCrispin* ce.services.mh@gmail.com Posted Jul 6, 2014, 9:47 pm |
I quit CoE a few seasons ago.
Not because the Alley was unbeatable, but because some of the "Anti-Alley" people couldn't resist the urge to obliterate their allies when no Alley targets were available. This tendency undermined the ability for us to prevent Alley members from taking the top 3 spots despite some of us holding 1st for the majority of the season. That and losing every bit of high end equipment that I had due to "friendly" fire created a combination of frustration and an inability to compete until I could replace the Six 5LV8s and a few A armor cars. The season after the season that I had to sit-out, Emily wanted me to spend CoE night doing stuff as a family instead of up all night racing. So I just haven't been back (nor have I bothered replacing the gear) It would be fun fighting the fight again. I love losing battles as long as I screw up the other guy's ability to win as well. SSE Motto #2: I don't care if I win, just so long as YOU lose! |
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Necrotech Posted Jul 6, 2014, 9:54 pm |
Well, forget giving Snipe some props....
Snipe's Respect Anyways.. moving on |
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*Brunwulf* Posted Jul 6, 2014, 10:00 pm |
Well then- join the team and make a difference!
A coherent, organised, team could have killed Longo's PSI guy this morning and chosen who to win the event. I know ppl don't like that- but they don't like the Alleys dominance either- so make your choice! You can't always be good and virtuous all at the same time- decide what you want to achieve, and do it! |
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FireFly Posted Jul 6, 2014, 10:13 pm |
It's really easy to call people cowards and tell them they don't play the game properly when you're the one sitting on top. That's the point most alley members seems to be missing completely. This whole act of playing "Correctly" is what ticks me off and not really how you actually play cause... That's how I played to some extent. I have never played all that fair, that's kinda why I won a lot. You guys don't play the league fairly and that's why you're winning it. Remember how PSI's got banned from the SCL (Me being a prime offender) to make it more competitive and fair? This is a similar situation to that. I don't expect anyone to play it fairly since I'm hardly going to do so myself, but that's why we need event rules to make it compeditive and fun for everyone. Currently it's just fun for a certain camp and people who like getting shot up (that's a minority of players by quite a bit).
If not, I want PSI's back in the SCL because that #### was hilarious (For me) 
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*Snipe* Posted Jul 6, 2014, 10:19 pm |
HA, I haven't had respect for you for RL years, if I ever did. You have no honor. I consider you more akin to a rash than an opponent - makes you uncomfortable till you get rid of it. But they always come back and make you itch. The game is the way the game is - I play different than almost any (except maybe my bro GTO). I don't expect people to play like me. But why take all the challenge away? I get the respect from the ones that count in my book anyhow. |
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Necrotech Posted Jul 6, 2014, 10:37 pm |
Geez, try to give a compliment, and people get all weird.
*shrugs* whatever, not my problem Moving on before this degrades further. |
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*Longo* Posted Jul 6, 2014, 10:50 pm |
You guys act like it was that easy for me to win the COE today. When it started I thought to myself - I am in serious trouble. My initial strategy was to out race you, but where Gate 1 was I knew all 5 of you would have tore me apart. Fortunately Snipe crashed and I had some time to think up a plan B. FWIW I took out 2 of you with a HMG. Then Aiming got a bad dice roll on the pyro hit, although I did hit him with a lot of juice and risked knocking my guy out. The last 2 guys.. Well the gate positions forcing you to come back to my location ultimately did you in. There was some luck involved, some experience, and some skill. You guys could have taken me out pretty easily if you would have organized, and if X wouldn't have fallen asleep and shown up I am sure that he and Snipe wouldn't have let me win even if it meant both of their deaths. As for Psi, it hAs taken me several real life years to get some good guys, and by the time they acquire psi they are already old and in ill health. So they are powerful but don't live long. Take into account their limitations(I'm not gonna list here, learn them on your own like the rest of us) and unless they are used just the right way, they aren't as powerful as you all think. Anyways, as you guys say from the other side of the ocean, "cheers." | ||||||
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*Snipe* Posted Jul 6, 2014, 11:04 pm |
Yep, the only problem I had with yesterdays was the insane roll on the pyro hit. But also, like I said in the event, if you are charging an elite vet and they arent running - chances are you are gonna get toasted once you get within 50M or so. I learned that from experience - lots of experience.
I think that me and K were the only ones gunning for you originally - and if I would have been paying attention to the match instead of getting caught on that hill - I would have prolly warned K from his charge. Either way, that was a clean event on your part. In response to Crisp and Brun - my reason for RH had to do with no fixing of leagues. Would have been a bit hypocritical of me to do that myself. I think that the winnings should go to the players that show, shoot and finish the best. If a newbie shows to each event and gets shot out of many - but still has the points to contend to win a Cougar or 5LV12 or whatever - then why the hell shouldn't they win it? I will GUARANTEE they will appreciate it more than someone that already has that level gear. And god knows they would have earned it. But honestly it is all the same for me - I had my time to play this game for real years ago, and prolly won't be able to get back to that level anytime soon - if ever. |
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*K1500* Posted Jul 6, 2014, 11:32 pm |
Yeah man no complaints from me about how you ran the event. I've had pryo's hit my cars before - and fair enough, I know when to bail out. It was just, as you said, "a bad dice roll" - but not getting the chance to bail is what got me grumpy. As I said I should have stayed back, taken the hills and kept at a distance - I had plenty of ammo and good gunners. I did nail you a couple of times with that HCR. K |
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*StCrispin* ce.services.mh@gmail.com Posted Jul 7, 2014, 12:24 am |
I fully understand RH's moral point of view. I have no qualms with it. Its just not effective at unseating the Alley since the RH side had winners that differ from one race to the other while the opposition has the same winner in each.
It leaves people with a choice of sticking to the Goal or sticking to their Ethics. |
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Joel Autobaun Posted Jul 7, 2014, 12:35 am |
Yeah uhhh ... so anyone wanna buy a squad car? | ||||||
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*StCrispin* ce.services.mh@gmail.com Posted Jul 7, 2014, 12:38 am |
My Bid still Stands at 250 CHR
or 1.25 Million $DW but I know you wanted CHR |
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Skidmark Posted Jul 7, 2014, 12:46 am |
And what did that accomplish? Of the seven participants, how many finished? Did you entirely miss where I mentioned this being pointless? And how are those standings looking? Hmm, today's COEs results have a whole lot of you getting zeroes. But let's play devil's advocate. Suppose you do manage to win an event, shoot the bejeezus out of Necro or someone. Like last week. Hmm? What happens? Do you think they're not going to retaliate? Here's some news. They keep a carefully maintained list, Necro's words, of folks they intend to gank whenever an opportunity presents itself. So... do you think that redding Necro isn't going to cost you? Can you really afford to win these events? By the way, expressing opinions on the forums that Joel's not comfortable with is grounds for a ganking. So if you're going to do it, make sure you go all-in. |
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Necrotech Posted Jul 7, 2014, 1:07 am |
Yep... gank... yep them's my words... I will not deny there is a list of opponents, one would be silly not to, but how you are describing it Skidmark, Blackwill, whatever the name is today, is not what you describe. Either take a real stand where it matters... or continue your existing path to nondescript obscurity. |
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Joel Autobaun Posted Jul 7, 2014, 1:15 am |
how do you figure the DW$? |
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Skidmark Posted Jul 7, 2014, 4:13 am |
Ah good. Nice to see you opening up. So... approximately how many players are on your camp's little gank list? How many players, currently active, do you intend to grief? I mean, don't give out any details, you're far too craven for that. Just a simple number. But you know, now that I think about it, maybe, if you actually felt like you had nothing to hide, you'd make this little list public. Post it. Say something like, "Members of The Alley gets rewarded for ganking these people in unfair fights." You could list their transgressions too. Surely they are all reasonable transgressions, worthy of retaliation. But don't do it in the Subscriber section. I think it's important for new players, or just players thinking about joining, to see how many people your camp's members intend to gank. |
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*goat starer* Posted Jul 7, 2014, 10:52 am |
Can I be on that list please? |
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*DoubleTap* Posted Jul 7, 2014, 2:46 pm |
Well, there you have it! |
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*Longo* Posted Jul 7, 2014, 3:38 pm |
Hehe. Funny thing was I called 2 time outs for him until he got into the game, not his teammates haha |
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*Brunwulf* Posted Jul 7, 2014, 4:45 pm |
Don't listen to him Snipe- Longo may have ACTUALLY called the T/Os but all players were discussing it- and others would have- myself included. I even wanted to wait for X man- but was overruled after 10 mins. (naughty Longo for trying to fuel the fires of non-alley members!!! )
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*Brunwulf* Posted Jul 7, 2014, 4:55 pm |
I think you probably are Goat, it's just that you don't show up to any events anymore!
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*Bastille* Posted Jul 7, 2014, 5:37 pm |
I saw that list once, Joel was smart to kick be out, bastard. | ||||||
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Joel Autobaun Posted Jul 7, 2014, 6:14 pm |
Technically, the list helps prove grievances, as i was asked to prove it before when i redded an enemy(in coe). Random killing was forbidden by sam after sharks last run. So far i am the only one asked to prove a grievance. I personally send a list of enemies to sam to cover this as well. I am probably the only person playing this game right now who is required to do this and why it might seem weird and childish to others.
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*goat starer* Posted Jul 7, 2014, 8:32 pm |
If I'm not on that list I will be taking you to court for defamation |
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Joel Autobaun Posted Jul 7, 2014, 9:21 pm |
Haha fair enough (but yes u are kill on sight)) |
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*goat starer* Posted Jul 7, 2014, 10:22 pm |
YAY! |
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*Snipe* Posted Jul 8, 2014, 12:03 am |
me too? Don't forget about the Renshai....... | ||||||
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*goat starer* Posted Jul 8, 2014, 12:09 am |
you have to get behind me in the queue |
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*StCrispin* ce.services.mh@gmail.com Posted Jul 8, 2014, 12:33 am |
I based it off how much money I have. compared to the CHR I have and just yanked a number out of the air. Probably lowballed it because I wouldn't trade 250 CHR for 1.25 Mill $DW... its easier to make 1.25 Mil $DW than it is to make $3.43 Real World money. Though the time investment for the $DW would be greater... Unless I could scout like Juan. |
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*Snipe* Posted Jul 8, 2014, 1:45 am |
You gotta be kidding me - I can make $3.43 in a few minutes IRL. I have rarely ever had over 1.25M in the bank in DW. I guess I would trade anyday. |
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*Jagged Monkey* Posted Jul 8, 2014, 3:06 am |
StCrisp you need a new job. May I suggest going to school first. | ||||||
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*StCrispin* ce.services.mh@gmail.com Posted Jul 8, 2014, 3:35 am |
As a camp owner my weekly expenses are between 750,000 and 1.25 million so I try to keep 9 million to 15 million handy.
As for my income, after Tax, Child Support and Government Mandated Purchases I watch about 75% of my income evaporate. Then 70% of whats left goes to the House Mortgage and Utilities. So for me specificly, $DW are a looser spending medium than CHR. Snipe: to make a take home pay of "$3.43 in a FEW minutes" would require an income of $1.14 per minute after Tax and mandated purchases. which applying these factors makes it a wage of $114.60 per hour |
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*StCrispin* ce.services.mh@gmail.com Posted Jul 8, 2014, 3:42 am |
I have a Masters in Business Administration a Bachelors of Arts in Writing a Bachelors of Science in Resource and Personnel management a Minor in Journalism (reporters here make minimum wage) a Minor in Art a Minor in Military Science 13 years experience in Intelligence and counter-terrorism work as well as Recon and Direct Combat Assaults and House Entry while leading groups of operators in excess of 110 subordinates and being responsible for millions of dollars worth of vehicles and equipment capable of leveling a small town Hard to find work when the things you are trained to do are commonly frowned upon in civilian life |
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*Bastille* Posted Jul 8, 2014, 3:56 am |
I have no issue at all with the 'List', the way the Alley play. Its the hardest RP you get here. Its the bar. Letting the small guy win once in a while wouldn't be that bad would it?
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*Snipe* Posted Jul 8, 2014, 4:22 am |
Well, using "few minutes" a little more loosely than that - I own my own business and charge 60 per hour. So - yeah, not too far off. |
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*StCrispin* ce.services.mh@gmail.com Posted Jul 8, 2014, 4:33 am |
I figured you were using the Before Tax. I was talking about "Real" money. What they call it? Spending Power or something.
As in, the portion of your wages that actually belong to you. for myself I offset the child support expense with the fact that my taxation level is 10% less than a single person and I refuse Obama Care and pay a fine instead and have inexpensive car insurance (but higher coverage than the legally mandated minimum) However that means I forfeit my tax return. But I would lose that anyway due to the fact my student loan owner defaulted me and 100,000 other military persons loans upon deployment in 2004. Here, people in your line of work don't make a much as you do. A lot of competition. I think going rate here for handyman, carpentry, construction and similar is $35 per hour and the licencing and insurance requirements are significant. |
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Necrotech Posted Jul 8, 2014, 4:40 am |
Back when I was non-alley, The highest I ever got was 2nd in COE II. This was in the dead middle of Latte, Wobs, Dodger, Alec, Tango, JS, Joel, Tinker, Juris wars. Back then.. HOLY CRAP... if you think this sort of thing bad now, it was outright diabolic then. Many of you have no idea what it was like, or if you do, then you have completely forgotten. What happens now is child's play in comparison. There was no asking if you quit or resigned.... they ... just.. died. Fire Engines, exploded every other week, lasers and heavy lasers from Ospreys and Turins, RGM's being fired in pairs from ambulances, Mortars, Tank guns... NORMAL! And here's me and Snipe.. fighting it out in.. Eatons and heavy rocket racks. At one time, I believed.. How do you compare to that? How? Fighting against what seemed to be DW Gods, who could have crushed us underfoot. I was happy to have a 100 in one skill... just to watch that ganger vanish in a red mist or burned hole through the brain from a laser. Was it fair in my mind at the time? NO! Gods no... It wasn't supposed to be, I did not have the gangers or equipment, or most importantly, the player skill to compete at that level. But I never quit trying either. The COE's are the big leagues. It is the penultimate event set of the week. Nowadays, the little guys stand far more of a chance than they did previously. Are there bad weeks... bloody weeks. Sure. The bits about "Chosen One" status are rubbish, pure and simple. Why.. because for whatever damned reason.. Joel is THAT much of a better racer than I am.. As is PA.. As is Foul.. I can never seem to catch them, or if I do.. they always find a way to pass me at the end. Some weeks, to be honest, I am just as glad that my gangers still may have some limbs left and I may have even gotten some points for the week. It's not easy, it's expensive, it's deadly, and once Sunday is done ... I sigh in relief or gnash my teeth at the losses. It is the one true piece of PvP mayhem left in this game. Because of all that, it is best part of this place.. even at it's worst. When Sunday is finished, nothing else in Evan is more gratifying. |
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*goat starer* Posted Jul 8, 2014, 6:27 am |
Did you buy those degrees online? |
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*Jagged Monkey* Posted Jul 8, 2014, 7:03 am |
All this bickering can be solved with a little PvP action. Just saying. Man up! | ||||||
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*StCrispin* ce.services.mh@gmail.com Posted Jul 8, 2014, 7:23 am |
Nope. Otherwise I wouldn't have had student loans that could be defaulted on me against my will, despite being current, when I was deployed. In the end, Degrees mean nothing in the US. 90% of high end careers (according to published statistics) are secured through friends or family ties. In America its not about being the best at what you do, its about knowing the right rich people and licking their butts for them (Or marrying their daughters) |
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Necrotech Posted Jul 8, 2014, 8:09 am |
Yep - called the "Hindlick Maneuver" | ||||||
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*Splash* Posted Jul 8, 2014, 12:21 pm |
After not playing much at all, and being absent from the CoE for 4 or 5 seasons, I joined up again in 2072.
My first event back, Joel and Necro tag-teamed me immediately like it was yesterday, and I didn't complete gate two. Old grudges die hard, I guess! Anyway, I surrendered, and it was honored. Last week, I brought a buzzer to the BPU fest, figuring on exacting some revenge. After the second gate, I had a RL and CC with full purple bars set to give Necro an extra door in the side of his truck, but due to some technical glitch/bug, my guns would not fire. As in, "For the whole freaking event." This left me in a bit of a predicament. I turned tail and ran (Buzzer notwithstanding, I being the only one who couldn't shoot was a slight disadvantage,) and again, they let me resign with no problem. Point is: They are successful because they are good and they work as a team, but I have a lot of respect for the way they played that. But yeah, I sure wish I could shoot the snot out of them...
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Joel Autobaun Posted Jul 8, 2014, 6:02 pm |
Pretty rediculous in alberta here... tradesmen come out of the gate making 80-90k(and most journeymen make 100k at least). No student loans very little brains.
Even educated people make a "fair" wage here. Frankly i get what i need to get done in a day by noon...trade stocks throughout the day(because of tax free savings accounts this is tax free income). Everyone shows up late and leaves early. That part drives me nuts but i go with the flow even if i am old school...last to leave and still half hour early. It will end with the oil boom and they will be crying like babies and i will buy their over priced homes with carefully guarded savings(from inflation...the economy/government forces us to all be stock brokers these days if you are a "saver" like me). So crispy if you can handle a 6month winter comon up and get a cushy job and plug yourself into the market...because the wage slave is a dead end. It is a rediculous situation the world today and it is bound to go bustin the next few years. Buy gold and bullets. |
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*sam* Posted Jul 8, 2014, 6:23 pm |
Hrm. What messages did you see, if any? Or did the guns just do nothing? |
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*Splash* Posted Jul 9, 2014, 12:54 pm |
Yeah, the guns just did nothing.
Didn't notice any messages; In the combat phase, they generally scroll so fast I can't read them, and I'm already looking at my next move anyway. I was a little bewildered when it happened that first turn, figuring I just forgot to set it or something. Second turn, I knew something was amiss; and third turn, I totally panicked and cursed the gods of Evan. I'll have to watch it again to see exactly what happened, but I'd like to think that after 5 years of playing this wonderful game almost every day, it wasn't human error...
I 've never even had more than a point of PSY in any of my hundreds of gangers, so I don't know--is it possible someone put a mutant hit on me to not fire my weapons? (Even then, I'd think it would show up in the chat.) Again, Sam, no idea. I can see this has got you perplexed as well, especially since the non-CoE events allow me to shoot the stuffing out of cars since then. I'm really not sure where to go with this; I guess I'll just enter CoE 1 next week, and see if it repeats? |
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musashi_san Posted Jul 10, 2014, 1:19 am |
i think it's possible with certain weapons, what were they? | ||||||
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Necrotech Posted Jul 10, 2014, 2:20 am |
I know what you are thinking, he did not get EMP'd |
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HexGrid Posted Apr 23, 2016, 2:50 am |
Bwahaha, can't remember if i heard you where from Alberta. I'm in saskwachian lolz, kinda the norm around here having no minds all over. Hell ya, most Americans definitely welcome here and all over Canada. I make it out to Edmonton & Calgary sometime, i'll hit you up next time I'm killing time visiting budds out there
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HexGrid Posted Apr 23, 2016, 2:54 am |
The guns not firing bug is happening more regularly and no messages. Also re targetings are being forgotten by client. Both issues have happened several times to me and Bootrag. |